| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2024-10-11 | |||
| 12:07:59 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure if you have tought about any of those elements in https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22nova-imagebackend-poc%22 | |
| 13:57:00 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: yeah I don't love using BDMs for that either, but it's probably the vehicle we need for being able to express that we want to be root-on-shared and ephemeral-on-local | |
| 13:57:16 | dansmith | I think probably the reason I don't like it is because I don't like BDMs in the first place | |
| 13:57:32 | dansmith | they're just obscure and opaque and I have to look up how to use them every time I need to | |
| 13:57:46 | sean-k-mooney | well having this in the bdm makes sense. havign that as the only wya ot express it is another matter | |
| 13:58:27 | sean-k-mooney | i was more or less thinking of having the ablity to default it via the flavor or image and if you want diffent backends per disk then overried with bdm | |
| 13:58:59 | sean-k-mooney | i.e. hw:root_image_backed=rbd hw:ephmeral_image_backend=lvm | |
| 13:59:10 | sean-k-mooney | and if you need something more complex only then go to bdm | |
| 13:59:18 | dansmith | yeah I read what you said.. and maybe, but the user really shouldn't even know that lvm or rbd are in use | |
| 13:59:56 | sean-k-mooney | well it may be approaty if we have an api for listing the types. | |
| 14:00:04 | sean-k-mooney | but without that i agree | |
| 14:00:35 | sean-k-mooney | we could also have an abstration i.e. hw:root_image_backed=local|shared_storage | |
| 14:00:44 | sean-k-mooney | that would be more cloudy | |
| 14:00:59 | sean-k-mooney | and offten that asll you care about | |
| 14:01:20 | dansmith | yeah, I think enumerated types (like volume types) is the thing we need.. shared/local isn't enough, IMHO | |
| 14:01:55 | dansmith | because if someone wants local cheap slow file-on-disk, faster lvm, shared rbd, shared iscsi box, etc | |
| 14:46:20 | jlejeune | hello, do you know where can I find the mysql/mariadb compatible versions depending on the openstack releases ? is there a compatibility matrix somewhere ? | |
| 14:50:14 | jlejeune | because I have issue when I want to upgrade from bobcat to caracal, when 'nova-manage db sync' tries to create nova_cell0.share_mapping table on mariadb 11.5.2 | |
| 15:30:05 | jlejeune | it seems to be related to the charset | |
| 15:38:10 | jlejeune | the utf-8 charset has been removed on mariadb > 10.6 | |
| 15:40:07 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: ya i like the idea of having storage_classes as an opace api constrcut defiend by the admin that a user then just selct form like volume types | |
| 15:40:53 | sean-k-mooney | jlejeune: for better or worse nova does not define the charater type to use in our schema | |
| 15:41:14 | sean-k-mooney | but yes there were chagnes to the charset and utf-8 specifically there is a replacement you can use | |
| 15:41:36 | sean-k-mooney | i think its utf8mb4 | |
| 15:42:00 | jlejeune | indeed it's utf8mb3 | |
| 15:42:37 | sean-k-mooney | utf8mb4 is the replacement | |
| 15:42:39 | jlejeune | but the charset utf8 is hardcoded in migrations scripts | |
| 15:43:23 | sean-k-mooney | i dont think its is in nova | |
| 15:43:29 | sean-k-mooney | but it may be in your installer | |
| 15:44:50 | sean-k-mooney | oh https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/db/main/migrations/versions/8f2f1571d55b_initial_version.py#L274-L275 | |
| 15:44:58 | sean-k-mooney | that a bug | |
| 15:45:11 | jlejeune | hé hé | |
| 15:45:53 | sean-k-mooney | that should be utf8mb4 | |
| 15:45:57 | jlejeune | :) | |
| 15:46:04 | amorin | there are some latin1 as well | |
| 15:46:05 | sean-k-mooney | i guess depending on your release there may be an alias for that | |
| 15:46:52 | sean-k-mooney | yes so we had a discussion about if nova can move to perscifbeing a charset to use a long time ago and i tought we agrreed no | |
| 15:47:07 | sean-k-mooney | this was incontext to maigin to a case sensitive coalation type | |
| 15:47:39 | sean-k-mooney | which is a slictly diffent topic | |
| 15:47:56 | sean-k-mooney | looking at https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/charset-charsets.html and 9.0 | |
| 15:48:15 | sean-k-mooney | utf8mb4 shoudl be viable for a wide range of release | |
| 15:48:41 | sean-k-mooney | utf8 exists in 5.7 but not in 8.0+ | |
| 15:48:45 | sean-k-mooney | im not sure when it was removed | |
| 15:49:16 | sean-k-mooney | jlejeune: can you file a but for this. | |
| 15:49:59 | jlejeune | I can for sure, but it will wait for monday :) | |
| 15:50:03 | jlejeune | I have to go | |
| 15:50:07 | sean-k-mooney | no worries | |
| 15:50:19 | jlejeune | see you | |
| 15:50:41 | sean-k-mooney | o/ | |
| 15:51:03 | sean-k-mooney | looks like we have 3 migration that are affected. 2 in the main/cell db an 1 in the api db | |
| 15:52:03 | sean-k-mooney | https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.4/en/charset-unicode-utf8.html | |
| 15:52:11 | sean-k-mooney | that is the deprecation notice | |
| 15:52:39 | sean-k-mooney | so its an alias for utf8mb3 and it was remvoed in 8.0 | |
| 15:52:49 | sean-k-mooney | utf8mb3 is also deprecated | |
| 15:53:09 | sean-k-mooney | so if we should move to utf8mb4 for all tables if we are goign to specify one | |
| 15:54:22 | sean-k-mooney | idealaly using utf8mb4_unicode_ci or utf8mb4_bin coralation type | |
| 15:54:58 | sean-k-mooney | i would prefer utf8mb4_bin but there are some upgrade concerns with that | |
| 15:56:02 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: i know your done for the weekend but ^ might need to be a ptg topic again | |
| 16:55:35 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: pci in placement still allow sriov networkign today right | |
| 16:56:05 | sean-k-mooney | the neutron sriov vf are just not tracked in placment | |
| 16:56:52 | sean-k-mooney | i tore down my home cloud a few weeks ago to do some hardware mantance and im debating if im going to redpeloy it at the weekend | |
| 16:57:24 | sean-k-mooney | if i do im condiering going sriov only or mainly sriov for my netorking to keep ti simple. and fast | |
| #openstack-nova - 2024-10-12 | |||
| 05:21:45 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Deprecate volume driver for unsupported volume backends https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932247 | |
| 05:23:01 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop usage of pkg_resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/931312 | |
| 05:51:53 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Drop usage of pkg_resources https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/931312 | |
| 06:10:14 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Deprecate volume driver for unsupported volume backends https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932247 | |
| 07:26:00 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Deprecate volume driver for unsupported volume backends https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932247 | |
| 10:18:09 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Deprecate volume driver for unsupported volume backends https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932247 | |
| 12:35:08 | opendevreview | Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Update contributor guide for 2025.1 Epoxy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/929918 | |
| 16:31:14 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: tox: Drop envdir https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/932263 | |
| #openstack-nova - 2024-10-14 | |||
| 10:16:46 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Update contributor guide for 2025.1 Epoxy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/929918 | |
| 11:12:08 | opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: Update Nova bdm with updated swap info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/929858 | |
| 11:18:22 | opendevreview | Amit Uniyal proposed openstack/nova master: Update Nova bdm with updated swap info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/929858 | |
| 11:26:23 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Remove libvirt tunnelled migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/879021 | |
| 11:44:14 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/929719 | |
| 11:46:07 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: tox: Drop envdir https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/932263 | |
| 11:59:05 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/placement master: Drop db migration tool https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/932324 | |
| 12:02:05 | tkajinam | ^^^ I wonder if we can drop the migration script directly or we need deprecation step (I feel like no one may use it from master so direct removal doesn't annoy real users) | |
| 12:22:49 | sean-k-mooney | tkajinam: i assuem we have a placement-manage db_sync command so it shoudl not be in use but im not sure. i have never checked that | |
| 12:23:06 | sean-k-mooney | oh | |
| 12:23:20 | sean-k-mooney | this is the tool to migrate form in nova placment to split out placemnet | |
| 12:23:57 | sean-k-mooney | that a good question we have not requried this for so long that enven the unmaintaiend brances shoudl not need it | |
| 12:24:09 | sean-k-mooney | so i feel like a direct removal would be ok | |
| 12:24:53 | sean-k-mooney | we are talking about somethign that shoudl have been done when upgrading to stien so i dont think deprecation of a shel script really shoudl be required at this point | |
| 12:42:54 | opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Revert "Test live migration between hosts with differnet cpu_shared_sets" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932327 | |
| 12:43:13 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: ^^ revert to stabilize CI | |
| 12:43:30 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: ah yep thanks i ment to do that for two weeks now and have been putting it off | |
| 12:43:53 | sean-k-mooney | it fiail infrequetly but it will increase as more raxflex host come online | |
| 12:43:57 | gibi | I got hit by it twice in a row so got enough motivation to at least push the revert | |
| 12:44:29 | sean-k-mooney | do we need another to +w i added +2 | |
| 12:44:43 | gibi | bauzas: could you put a +w to ^^ | |
| 12:44:54 | gibi | it is a revert for CI stablization | |
| 12:44:59 | bauzas | okay | |
| 12:45:16 | sean-k-mooney | ill be changign which jobs to what anyway when i get time to work on this again | |
| 12:45:45 | gibi | thanks | |
| 12:55:31 | tkajinam | sean-k-mooney, yeah that's the tool to pull placement tables from old nova db. | |
| 17:19:01 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Revert "Test live migration between hosts with differnet cpu_shared_sets" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/932327 | |
| 18:50:07 | melwitt | sean-k-mooney: you had mentioned that scatter_gather_cells is not currently waiting for timeout in the main thread but I thought it is? this is using the eventlet.timeout.Timeout context manager in the main thread right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/741e1b38705efecc083f091c51164b3cafb9697c/nova/context.py#L437 | |
| 19:07:47 | dansmith | melwitt: I think in uwsgi mode it can't since we're not running the eventlet hub right? | |
| 19:08:14 | dansmith | IIRC that's what sean-k-mooney was referring to.. it "waits" but the timeout will never fire in fully uwsgi mode | |