| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2024-06-24 | |||
| 17:06:26 | sean-k-mooney | jangutter: so we were thinking of deployign with a/a for our new installer | |
| 17:06:39 | sean-k-mooney | then we found that most service dont work properly id you do | |
| 17:06:41 | sean-k-mooney | mysql_wsrep_sync_wait = 1 | |
| 17:06:47 | jangutter | thanks, that makes absolute sense now. | |
| 17:07:08 | sean-k-mooney | might work as that forces galera to ensure that it sync on every read | |
| 17:07:28 | sean-k-mooney | or rather read form the most up to date write set whatever its called internally | |
| 17:07:48 | jangutter | (we'll have to check our performance stats on that of course, but you can't argue against CAP) | |
| 17:08:08 | sean-k-mooney | looking at nova code while we were debuging it i dont think we have the code to proerly handal A/A galare with delayed consitency in nova | |
| 17:08:47 | sean-k-mooney | ya so even if its a few seconds of a replciation dely it make the db nolonger atomic | |
| 17:09:11 | sean-k-mooney | and placemnt which is designed to rely on that for the allcoations really cant tollerate that | |
| 17:10:14 | sean-k-mooney | jangutter: still at workday? | |
| 17:10:27 | jangutter | what gave it away :-p | |
| 17:10:44 | sean-k-mooney | nothing we just have not chatted in a while | |
| 17:10:57 | sean-k-mooney | i was wondering if you were still in dublin and working with them | |
| 17:11:44 | jangutter | correct on both counts, also somehow the amount of board games available has grown.... | |
| 17:12:13 | sean-k-mooney | does it ever decrease i tought they just started taking up space in fried houes instead :) | |
| 17:12:21 | sean-k-mooney | *friends | |
| 17:13:04 | sean-k-mooney | jangutter: in case its of use what we ended up doing in our new installer is this https://github.com/openstack-k8s-operators/mariadb-operator/pull/229/files#diff-deca2c41d0839d5052bb1da5ac7ad924f126ef4adcf10fea54d00a1a737f668b | |
| 17:13:33 | sean-k-mooney | jangutter: we reverted to active passive with a script that is invoked by galera when teh leader changes | |
| 17:13:48 | sean-k-mooney | that updated the endpoint in the kubernets service to point only to the new leader | |
| 17:15:43 | jangutter | oh man, I have PTSD about "leader election" and etcd. | |
| 17:16:21 | jangutter | It makes sense, 99% of the time you have a leader, but you want a smooth handover during updates. | |
| 17:16:52 | sean-k-mooney | jangutter: yep and its using a feature of galera that allows it to execute a user script when the leader changes | |
| 17:17:42 | sean-k-mooney | so we are now just providing a script for it to execute and leveragin the fact that k8s adds servie user tokens/config into the pods to allow it to auth and do the service update | |
| 17:18:23 | sean-k-mooney | it kind of sucks that gelera does not just proxy the connection ot the current leader internally but if the hack works... | |
| 17:19:00 | jangutter | we used an analogous way to backup the db by selecting a non-active node and transferring the state from it. the scary thing is that a chunk of this is load-bearing bash scripts. | |
| 17:19:32 | sean-k-mooney | https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/dependency.png | |
| 17:19:48 | jangutter | 100% true. | |
| 17:20:19 | sean-k-mooney | i wish there was an image macro that would just replace the right arrow | |
| 17:31:51 | gmann | stephenfin: ack, will do 2nd round of reviews. | |
| #openstack-nova - 2024-06-25 | |||
| 09:53:59 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate MEM_ENCRYPTION_CONTEXT from root provider https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/921814 | |
| 10:05:30 | opendevreview | Michael Still proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Propose a new API microversion for a spice-direct console. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/915190 | |
| 10:06:57 | mikal | sean-k-mooney: thanks again for your comments, I've replied. I'll take some time in the next couple of days to prototype a flow where Nova requests a connection URL from Kerbside. | |
| 10:19:51 | sean-k-mooney | mikal: ill loop back ot them shortly | |
| 14:22:38 | bauzas | gibi: others, I absolutely forgot I had an appointement at 5:45pm CET today that clashes with the nova meeting | |
| 14:22:51 | bauzas | anyone fancy to run the meeting or I shall I cancel it ? | |
| 14:23:50 | sean-k-mooney | i only had one topic which is i would like to move nova-next to run on noble i ahve a patch up to do that so we can always disucss that in gerrit | |
| 14:24:09 | sean-k-mooney | i didnt have anything else to raise today | |
| 14:25:31 | bauzas | I eventually found the problem with my own mtty patch, it was requiring the devstack plugin to accept noble (we were blindly setting sources.list to jammy) | |
| 14:26:06 | bauzas | shit, I also won't be able to run the meeting on next two tuesdays | |
| 14:31:28 | bauzas | apologies for not having planned it before :( | |
| 14:52:51 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: WIP : mtty: add devstack compilation for fedora builds https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/918420 | |
| 14:52:51 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: WIP : Enable an experimental job for testing mtty https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/922140 | |
| 15:02:00 | gibi | I can run a quick / reduced nova meeting today | |
| 15:02:08 | gibi | bauzas: ^^ | |
| 15:02:39 | bauzas | gibi: thanks, I just wrote an email to -discuss, could you please reply to it ? | |
| 15:04:54 | gibi | done | |
| 15:50:20 | gibi | nova meeting starts in 10 minute | |
| 15:50:21 | gibi | s | |
| 16:01:40 | opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | |
| 16:01:40 | opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 16:01:40 | opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 16:01:40 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | |
| 16:01:40 | gibi | #startmeeting nova | |
| 16:01:54 | fwiesel | \o | |
| 16:02:07 | tkajinam | o/ | |
| 16:02:11 | elodilles | o/ | |
| 16:02:32 | gibi | hi folks. I will be your uprepared host today | |
| 16:03:48 | gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | |
| 16:03:48 | Uggla | o/ | |
| 16:03:53 | gibi | #info No Critical bug | |
| 16:03:57 | gibi | #info Add yourself in the team bug roster if you want to help https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bug-triage-roster | |
| 16:04:16 | gibi | any bug that feels critical to discuss here? | |
| 16:05:40 | gibi | if not then | |
| 16:05:41 | gibi | #topic Gate status | |
| 16:05:45 | gibi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs | |
| 16:05:48 | gibi | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-ci-failures-minimal | |
| 16:05:52 | gibi | #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Nova&Placement periodic jobs status | |
| 16:05:55 | gibi | #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag. | |
| 16:05:58 | gibi | #info Please try to provide meaningful comment when you recheck | |
| 16:06:25 | gibi | is there any gate issue that needs to be raised? | |
| 16:07:40 | gibi | then | |
| 16:07:41 | gibi | #topic Release Planning | |
| 16:07:45 | gibi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/dalmatian/schedule.html | |
| 16:07:53 | gibi | #info Dalmatian-2 is next week | |
| 16:07:57 | gibi | #info Spec review day planned on July 1st https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/JBPORDTEELT5ZVPJAFCYD733IVSMXMKR/ | |
| 16:08:26 | gibi | so next Monday we will focus on specs | |
| 16:09:01 | gibi | spec freeze is expected on 18 of July | |
| 16:09:12 | gibi | according to https://releases.openstack.org/dalmatian/schedule.html | |
| 16:09:20 | gibi | any questions? | |
| 16:09:42 | sean-k-mooney | not specifically | |
| 16:09:49 | sean-k-mooney | although there are a few spec that still need review | |
| 16:10:21 | sean-k-mooney | for example this one https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/915190 | |
| 16:10:40 | sean-k-mooney | it would be good to get input form others on that on monday | |
| 16:10:47 | fwiesel | Or this one: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/922201 | |
| 16:11:12 | sean-k-mooney | fwiesel: im kind of -1 on that in general by the way | |
| 16:11:18 | sean-k-mooney | i need to reread it | |
| 16:11:26 | tkajinam | I'd also raise https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/907702 :-) | |
| 16:11:32 | sean-k-mooney | but cloud-init internlly depend on it not being lazy loaded | |
| 16:11:37 | gibi | thanks for the pointers | |
| 16:11:56 | gibi | lets move on | |
| 16:12:01 | sean-k-mooney | sure | |
| 16:12:09 | gibi | #topic Review priorities | |
| 16:12:15 | gibi | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-dalmatian-status | |
| 16:12:32 | gibi | nothing new here :) | |
| 16:12:35 | gibi | so moving on | |
| 16:12:36 | gibi | #topic Stable Branches | |
| 16:12:49 | gibi | elodilles: are you around? | |
| 16:12:53 | elodilles | yepp | |
| 16:13:04 | gibi | then please | |
| 16:13:07 | gibi | :) | |