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#openstack-nova - 2023-11-21
17:30:55 sean-k-mooney we coudl not supprot the cpu state policy
17:31:09 sean-k-mooney but even then i would expect new config optiosn for the cpu share set
17:31:17 gibi I don't want to alway use the on/off button when my room becomes cold. I want to rely on the combination of the two config to dyanmically heat my room
17:31:21 sean-k-mooney im not sure we will add that funcitonaltiy
17:31:31 sean-k-mooney at least right now i dont see a uescase to do that
17:32:51 bauzas you know what ? I'll stop
17:34:26 gibi I stop too. See you tomorrow
17:35:14 bauzas I sent it to... wait, actually nothing
17:35:20 bauzas the check pipeline failed
17:35:40 bauzas but I added a label called 'Workflow +1'
17:35:42 bauzas fwiw
17:36:02 gibi bauzas: thanks
17:40:29 bauzas (fwiw, the analogy with a room heater seems wrong to me : the on/off button seems to me the opt-in flag about power management, and the temp knob is the strategy)
17:41:21 bauzas and when I wrote the feature, I thought it was errorprone to tell "I want my cores to be power managed" if I wasn't providing dedicated cores
17:42:00 bauzas but I don't want to debate for so long about that, so let's ship it
17:42:02 sean-k-mooney the temp knob is hte cpu_dedicated_set (the quantiy of cpus) but i get your perspective too
17:44:21 bauzas if some deployment tool automatically enables the power management feature, it still needs to properly document the fact that the strategy can be modifed
17:44:42 bauzas maybe some operators would be surprised to see their cores offlined
17:44:59 bauzas (at least I would)
17:45:24 sean-k-mooney well that kind of raise the question of what the defautl behavior shoudl be upstream
17:45:25 bauzas and maybe it wouldn't hit me that it was nova which offlined them for my usage
17:45:34 sean-k-mooney i think we eventually woudl want to make that the default
17:45:47 sean-k-mooney perhasp even this cycle although that should be a seperate patch
17:46:10 bauzas sean-k-mooney: the problem here is that I don't want us to buy a feature that depends on a kernel support
17:46:42 sean-k-mooney this has been supported in the kernel for a very very long time, although you ar ecorrect that it can be compiled out
17:46:46 bauzas I don't know for exotic archs and kernels, but I don't wanna bet that all of them have the sysfs calls
17:46:55 sean-k-mooney or disabeld such as when in a vm
17:47:20 sean-k-mooney so you dont think we shoudl enabel by default in the long term then?
17:47:52 sean-k-mooney its certnely not somethign we have to rush into
17:47:53 bauzas I have some concerns about it and I need to be convinced that nova wouldn't stop supporting exotic kernels just because of that
17:48:17 sean-k-mooney kind of like being secure by default i feel we shoudl try to be energy effiect by default
17:48:36 bauzas sure, and that makes sense
17:48:39 sean-k-mooney bauzas: well you could alwasy trun it off or we coudl try and detect it
17:48:49 bauzas we should even
17:48:58 sean-k-mooney prehasp we woudl intoduce an auto value in the future
17:49:10 bauzas detecting whether you can disable them or not at startup
17:49:21 sean-k-mooney ya
17:49:23 bauzas yeah, this sounds a right way
17:49:26 bauzas the auto thing
17:49:39 sean-k-mooney so if mede it a tri state true,false,auto
17:49:44 sean-k-mooney and then did the detection
17:49:51 sean-k-mooney that would be the best of both worlds
17:50:08 sean-k-mooney and it solves the ux problem but i also agree that would not be backportable
17:50:10 bauzas yeah, and this would convince me of opting-out this
17:50:25 bauzas provided the autodetect
17:51:14 sean-k-mooney do we ant to wait to disucss this with gibi tomorrow before proceeding with the current patch
17:54:33 bauzas this is additive
17:54:40 bauzas and as you said, not backportable
19:37:56 opendevreview Andriy Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Disable NEUTRON_ENFORCE_SCOPE at function job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/901621
20:41:56 opendevreview Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/yoga: [stable-only] Remove nova-emulation from check pipeline of Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901604
20:44:05 elodilles sean-k-mooney: i forgot about the [stable-only] tag /o\ so now i've moved the job to experimental pipeline as you originally wanted ^^^
21:06:06 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Allow live migrate paused instance when post copy is enabled https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/444517
21:09:41 artom melwitt, since you looked at it previously and sean-k-mooney now has a +2, can I bother you for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/883682?
21:11:20 andreykurilin Hi folks! python-novaclient-functional job became broken after neutron-related change to devstack https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/899306 . I have a fix to unblock novaclient’s CI - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/901621 but IDK whether the issue should be addressed differently. The review is appreciated.
21:16:28 melwitt artom: sure, will look
#openstack-nova - 2023-11-22
01:14:20 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Allow live migrate paused instance when post copy is enabled https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/444517
07:55:33 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Allow enabling cpu_power_management with 0 dedicated CPUs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901188
08:29:31 opendevreview likui proposed openstack/nova master: Add py311 in tox file https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901587
08:38:10 opendevreview likui proposed openstack/nova master: Add py311 in tox file https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901587
09:11:28 opendevreview Pierre Libeau proposed openstack/nova master: nova-condutor put instance in error state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901655
09:22:16 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.2: Do not manage CPU0's state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901566
09:22:39 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.1: Do not manage CPU0's state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901567
09:24:21 gibi elodilles bauzas: ^^ power management bugfix backport ^^
09:25:14 gibi bauzas: this is a differnt bugfix
09:25:28 bauzas oh shit, you're tight
09:25:31 bauzas right*
09:26:37 bauzas ETOOMANYTHINGSINMIND
09:26:41 bauzas +2d
09:26:48 bauzas (the bobcat one)
09:28:31 gibi thanks!
09:29:59 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.2: Allow enabling cpu_power_management with 0 dedicated CPUs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901656
09:30:13 gibi bauzas: now it is the time to look away ^^ ;)
09:30:25 bauzas lol
09:31:12 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/2023.1: Allow enabling cpu_power_management with 0 dedicated CPUs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901660
09:35:37 dvo-plv Hello, All Maybe you will have a chance to review spec file and patch today
09:35:38 dvo-plv https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/895924
09:35:43 dvo-plv https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/876075
10:47:53 auniyal6 Hi bauzas, sean-k-mooney can you please approve this one again https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901604
13:48:15 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/yoga: [stable-only] Remove nova-emulation from check pipeline of Yoga https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/901604
14:45:39 opendevreview Andriy Kurilin proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: [DNM] Try to debug functional https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/901677
14:53:06 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Cap with max_instances GPU types https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/899625
14:53:29 bauzas sean-k-mooney: fwiw, my capping vpgu bugfix is now done ^
14:53:47 bauzas you can test it if you want, it also works with non-SRIOV GPUs
17:47:46 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/yoga: libvirt: remove default cputune shares value https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898554
#openstack-nova - 2023-11-23
01:05:34 melwitt gmann: there is a patch to unblock the python-novaclient gate https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/901621 that I have +2ed that you might want to look at. it's a very weird thing with failing when NEUTRON_ENFORCE_SCOPE = true
02:54:32 gmann melwitt: checking
03:01:05 gmann melwitt: done, yeah strange error. seeing from old and new rule existing token should pass either it is admin or member role token
04:36:10 opendevreview Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Disable NEUTRON_ENFORCE_SCOPE at function job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/901621
07:58:55 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Detect maximum number of SEV guests automatically https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/899381
08:00:27 tkajinam sean-k-mooney, bauzas ^^^ I've created as bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-detect-sev-max-guests and link it from the change, as suggested
08:00:40 tkajinam I've not created any bp for a while so lmk if I made something wrong ...
08:41:40 gibi tkajinam: good to see you around :) The BP looks good to me
08:42:58 gibi bauzas: ^^ do we need to wait for the next nova meeting to approve that or we already agreed about the feature and this is just paperwork?
08:44:34 tkajinam gibi, hey. good morning and hope everything is good with you. thanks for checking the bp :-D
08:49:35 bauzas lgtm, I can stamp the paperwork
08:51:20 bauzas tkajinam: gibi: sean-k-mooney: bp approved as specless, good to go for reviews
08:56:48 gibi bauzas: cool
08:57:09 gibi tkajinam: yeah all good here. Hope all good on your side too
08:57:38 bauzas tkajinam: btw. saw your email on tooz
08:58:04 bauzas fwiw, I agree with the concerns, we rather need tooz to continue to verify the older API

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