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#openstack-nova - 2023-10-19
14:56:35 bauzas cool, I just noted it then in the etherpad
14:58:02 bauzas ralonsoh: do you have any nova related topics you'd like to be discussed at the PTG ?
14:58:46 ralonsoh bauzas, hi, I won't be able to attend next week to the PTG. The PTL is haleyb. I'm not aware of any Nova-Neutron topic for this PTG
14:59:09 bauzas ack, good call actually, I missed the PTL change, my bad
14:59:33 bauzas haleyb: cool cool, I was just asking
14:59:34 haleyb bauzas: i'm happy to have a cross-project
14:59:55 haleyb if needed of course
15:00:07 bauzas haleyb: for the moment, I haven't seen any related topics in our own etherpad but that's something we can quickly sort out
15:00:56 haleyb +1
15:30:59 bauzas carloss: same question for Manila, would you like some x-p session with nova ? I don't have any specific item in our etherpad as of now, but I'm open
15:37:20 carloss bauzas: o/ thought about it but unsure if we'd have a lot to cover in the session... we merged the two Manila features last cycle, so we are waiting on the Nova side implementation mostly to gather feedback and work on enhancements if necessary
15:37:42 bauzas carloss: yeah basically I think you're done :)
15:37:47 bauzas this is more on our side
15:38:02 bauzas but you may want to ask us some things that aren't discussed yet :)
15:56:08 opendevreview Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/placement master: Use new db session when retrying https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/898807
15:57:53 opendevreview Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/placement master: Use new db session when retrying https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/898807
22:13:49 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Do not manage CPU0's state https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898137
#openstack-nova - 2023-10-20
06:54:26 bauzas hmmm, just got some moderator info, would people be angry against me if this time we use OpenDev Meetpad instead of Zoom for the PTG ? :)
06:59:03 frickler bauzas: interesting things happening behind closed doors again it seems. could you forward me that moderator mail or is there something confidential in it?
06:59:31 bauzas frickler: sure, no creds given
06:59:32 frickler fwiw I'm +2 on using meetpad. oh, wait, I only have +1 here, but anyway ;)
06:59:59 bauzas frickler: I guess I can fwd it to your gerrit email address ?
07:00:11 frickler bauzas: yes, please, tia
07:00:48 bauzas actually the email contains the host keys for the zoom sessions but I trust you hombre :)
07:01:04 bauzas you're not a scammer wanting to sell pills ?
07:01:25 frickler who knows. but if you don't use zoom, you won't get any ;-P
07:01:52 bauzas I'm half-sad, half-relieved
07:02:21 bauzas sent anyway
07:02:58 bauzas tl;dr: no really juice, that's just that it seems the OIF doesn't appreciate the new Zoom policies
07:03:12 bauzas "Due to Zoom’s more recent changes in policies we do encourage the use of the OpenDev Meetpad instance[3] instead and will work towards updating the bot for future vPTGs to make it the default meeting platform.  "
07:03:48 bauzas to be fair, moving from Zoom wouldn't be a regret for me, the zoom app on Fedora was doing some weird behaviour
07:06:34 frickler well I've been trying to motivate some ptls to move to meetpad over the last days, so it is nice to see that picked up by the oif finally. better late than never, as they say
09:31:52 bauzas there we go : https://meetpad.opendev.org/nova-caracal-ptg
09:32:11 bauzas I need to test how that works if I need another etherpad
09:33:36 kashyap What is meetpad?
09:33:51 kashyap Ah, videoconferencing
09:34:02 bauzas yup, an opensource alternative of Zoom
09:38:51 kashyap Is it stable?
09:39:01 kashyap Or is the answer, "we'll figure out"? :)
09:41:07 bauzas I dunno, see the above discussion I had with frickler
09:41:20 bauzas but I hope I can trust OIF :)
10:12:52 frickler a longer answer is "we'll figure it out and hope to be able to fix issues if they arise. we also think the social benefits will outweight the possible technical issues"
10:16:52 kashyap What does it mean by "social benefits"? I can read that phrase in a few ways. Either way, I'm always happy w/ open source (and working) tooling! :)
10:17:12 kashyap At Linux Plumbers last year in Dublin, they used Jitsi ... and it was mixed results. There was a write-up of it on LWN.net
10:19:55 kashyap (Sorry, not Jitsi, but "BigBlueButton")
10:22:00 sean-k-mooney kashyap: we have meetpad is an integration of etherpad with jitsi meet
10:22:24 sean-k-mooney it has been aviable to use to use since the first vPTG
10:23:42 kashyap I see
10:23:57 sean-k-mooney bauzas: no one will be angrey of we dont use zoom we talked about using meetpad for the last 2 vPTGs
10:26:33 gibi let's see, in the past there were random issue with jitsi (meetpad) when the number of participants increased. Like some people did not hear each other. Sometimes it is browser dependent. Also there is an android jitis app as a viable alternative if the browser based does not work well
10:30:39 sean-k-mooney gibi: ya we also had issue with zoom in the past with the meeting canceling
10:30:48 gibi true
10:31:13 sean-k-mooney if we have issues with either i can also just use my personal paid google account to host a meeting
10:31:30 gibi yeah, my main point is also keep an alternative ready :)
10:31:41 sean-k-mooney the issue we ahve hadd with google meet or jisti meet in the past was more around connecting form china
10:31:58 sean-k-mooney zoom was allowed for some reason.
10:33:03 sean-k-mooney my paid account supprot 150 participant video meetings + recording
10:33:13 sean-k-mooney thats likely enough if we need a fallback
11:29:18 frickler the usual zoom rooms are still in place if they are needed
11:59:35 sean-k-mooney gibi: bauzas would ye mind looking at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/884439 it would be nice if we could get that merged so we can start backporting it
11:59:54 sean-k-mooney assuming we end up removing some of the stable branches after the ptg
12:00:16 sean-k-mooney i woudl like to include that in the final releases of those branches if we can
12:19:29 gibi sean-k-mooney: +A
12:20:05 sean-k-mooney thanks :)
13:49:21 dansmith bauzas: I much prefer zoom, fwiw
13:49:51 bauzas well, the ship sailed apparently
13:50:49 dansmith ah I see, ugh
14:04:27 bauzas hmmm, first time I'm seeing OSC not installed on my devstack
14:04:29 bauzas weird
14:05:09 bauzas actually, pip freeze shows it to me
14:05:11 bauzas python-openstackclient==6.3.0
14:05:17 dansmith bauzas: in the venv?
14:05:34 bauzas I'm not sourcing any venv
14:05:42 bauzas and I did set GLOBAL_VENV=False
14:05:42 sean-k-mooney what os
14:05:46 bauzas RHEL9.2
14:05:54 sean-k-mooney its proably not in your path
14:05:57 bauzas yeah
14:06:06 bauzas osc is installed
14:06:27 sean-k-mooney the default path on rehl does not ahve /usr/local i belvie
14:07:00 bauzas /opt/stack/.local/bin:/opt/stack/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin
14:07:00 bauzas [stack@lenovo-sr655-01 ~]$ echo $PATH
14:07:14 bauzas you're correct
14:07:25 dansmith but has /usr/local/sbin, that's .. odd :)
14:08:08 bauzas anyway, problem solved
14:08:26 bauzas if I just awaited 2 mins before pinging here, I wouldn't feel stupid
14:09:07 sean-k-mooney meh if it saves you 2-n mins of bashing yoru head agaist it why not ask
14:09:18 sean-k-mooney i only know this becasue it has bit me before
14:10:07 sean-k-mooney we fix up the patch in devstack iself but we dont persit that anywhere
14:10:37 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/devstack/blob/5613db3caa9193dcf84edabe04400341644ecab0/stack.sh#L70-L73
14:11:55 sean-k-mooney i fixed that last yer https://github.com/openstack/devstack/commit/eca9783a0ad9c7d7e2e8267457be8d4dd8b55502
14:12:56 sean-k-mooney when i was fixing centos 9 supprot https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:fix-install-on-centos9-cloud-image
14:36:52 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Translate VF network capabilities to port binding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/884439
14:49:11 bauzas sean-k-mooney: interesting, I have your patch in my devstack but for some reason the PATH isn't good
14:49:13 bauzas anyway
14:50:31 bauzas oh, that's because this is just in the scropt
14:50:35 bauzas anyway, all good
14:56:43 sean-k-mooney ya if you sourced local.sh it would proably end up in your shell
14:56:51 sean-k-mooney but if you just run it it wont
14:57:04 sean-k-mooney *stack.sh not local.sh

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