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#openstack-nova - 2023-10-17
18:38:32 noonedeadpunk just to state this one more time - warning will fire in 100% cases, right?
18:39:04 sean-k-mooney hum yes until the upgrade is compelte
18:39:09 dansmith yes
18:39:34 noonedeadpunk And what docs say - `At least one check encountered an issue and requires further investigation.` So all who do upgrades will spend some time to find out that they should proceed first when it's not inclined but the command nature?
18:39:43 dansmith it wouldn't make much sense to say "you pass this test with OK" and then after you restart it goes to warning or error
18:39:56 dansmith if we had a way to skip a test because it's irrelevant, then we'd do that, otherwise I think warning makes sense
18:39:58 noonedeadpunk it does on 2024.1
18:40:05 noonedeadpunk if you upgrade from 2023.2
18:40:44 sean-k-mooney dansmith: if we modify the check to do a min compute version check it might but then perhasp i was wrong to ask for this as its not as useful as i tought
18:40:45 dansmith does what? make sense? I disagree
18:41:16 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: baislly i asked for this to catch the case where you are upgrading aging and had not started the computed i.e. to 2024.2 i guess
18:41:33 noonedeadpunk but then I'm really not getting what are expectations on me as operator to perform upgrade from 2023.1 to 2023.2 and what I should do when I see that warning
18:42:26 dansmith saying we checked a thing and everything is good when we really checked and see that you're not but we're ignoring the done-ness of it because you're in the middle of an upgrade doesn't seem to fit very well to me
18:42:36 dansmith like I say if we had "skipped" or "not due yet" then that'd make sense
18:42:37 noonedeadpunk yeah, I kind of already got what it does and why exist :) just trying to say that raise warning for expected behaviour is also... meh?
18:45:09 sean-k-mooney i wonder if it would be beter to remove this check. i know i asked for it orginally but im wondering if its adding benifit. im also wondering if there is another bug
18:46:07 sean-k-mooney we are doing " cn_no_service = main_db_api.compute_nodes_get_by_service_id(ctx, None)
18:46:12 sean-k-mooney "
18:46:38 sean-k-mooney so cn_no_service is the list of all compute nodes that have service id set to None
18:46:46 dansmith sean-k-mooney: it's really more applicable to the release where we start requiring it
18:47:11 sean-k-mooney dansmith: ya it is. im wonderign what happens for ironic in this case
18:47:59 dansmith idk. I have a big "if ironic: return" in my head over all that stuff :P
18:48:47 sean-k-mooney i think this will always fail if you have ironic
18:48:57 sean-k-mooney but i am also pretty sure we have not test coverage
18:49:00 noonedeadpunk https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2039597
18:50:02 sean-k-mooney as in, in the compute manager i think your correect we have "if ironic: return" so i dont think we set the service id for ironic computes
18:50:35 dansmith sean-k-mooney: no I meant I have that conditional in my _brain_ :)
18:50:45 sean-k-mooney oh hehe
18:51:29 dansmith okay well, I have the FAIL->WARN thing queued, I can either submit that or change to a revert
18:53:11 sean-k-mooney given this converstaion im inclided to revert
18:53:37 sean-k-mooney and then when we actully start depenign on this we can decide if we shoudl add a status check
18:53:47 sean-k-mooney as you suggested before
18:53:58 noonedeadpunk I mean. I can ignore WARNs and just make them pass.... But what value of warns then...
18:54:32 noonedeadpunk (or depending on the source version for upgrade for 2024.1
18:54:52 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: no warning are ment to be "this thing is deprecated and you should fix it before upgrading again"
18:55:00 dansmith sean-k-mooney: well, maybe comment on that in the bug and we can get bauzas to opine tomorrow. ISTR he was pro check as well, but maybe only because you said it and it "seems right" :)
18:55:48 noonedeadpunk sean-k-mooney: then it's worth fixing docs to state that
18:55:52 sean-k-mooney if we keep the check we need to filter out ironic compute nodes too and or add the min compute version cehck
18:56:04 sean-k-mooney but sure ill comment on the bug
18:56:56 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: to be honest we try to avoid requiuring the operator to do things to be able to upgrade
18:56:59 noonedeadpunk As right now reading the doc it sounds a bit different then it's fine now - but will be not next time
18:57:27 sean-k-mooney so we very really add nova-status checks becuase we try to amke sure not to design something to require them
18:58:20 sean-k-mooney s/really/rarely/
18:58:21 noonedeadpunk and you're doing great job to have that said
18:59:08 sean-k-mooney if you look at the first copule they are things like you must have placment, or cells v2
18:59:13 noonedeadpunk And I'm not insisting that we're doing things right - it's just we're doing them how it's written more or less... And if you say we should do things differently - I'm really fine with that, and can propose update to docs as well
18:59:21 sean-k-mooney and more recently the service user token for the cve
19:00:28 noonedeadpunk Yeah, I guess one "but" for service user token - is that it's not since 24.0.0 as it was during Zed in fact and then backported... But anyway - it's small detail
19:03:24 noonedeadpunk I also wondering how nobody has raised that thing until now... As we've seen failure in CI right after the coordinated release, but nobody had time to look into the rootcause...
19:05:40 sean-k-mooney right so the upgrade check is ment to help catch this before you deploy to production
19:06:06 sean-k-mooney what this si also telling me is we dont actullly fail on error in our grenade jobs.
19:06:31 sean-k-mooney that would have caught this before it merged i think
19:10:24 dansmith well, tbh I think we're running it after upgrade to see if you've got everything done
19:10:28 dansmith and thus it's passing
19:10:49 dansmith it's supposed to be used for that as well.. basically "am I done with my homework"
19:11:46 sean-k-mooney ya that makes sense i gues although this would still fial in the multi node job in that case
19:12:00 sean-k-mooney since we only upgrade the contoler node and not the extra compute
19:26:10 noonedeadpunk Sorry, I think I have one more question. Today I got quite stuid idea, but wanna confirm how stupid it is :)
19:26:52 noonedeadpunk How bad is to run `nova-manage cell_v2 discover_hosts --by-service` if you don't have ironic
19:27:27 noonedeadpunk I see there's a performance penalty of doing that in the docs...
19:27:46 noonedeadpunk But that would simplify some logic quite a lot on the other hand...
19:30:21 noonedeadpunk So wondering how bad that trade off might be from the nova prespective
19:57:59 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1994983 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/863416
19:59:48 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1994983 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/863416
19:59:56 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova master: Log some InstanceNotFound exceptions from libvirt https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/863665
20:18:24 colby__ Hey Guys. We are in the process of upgrading our hypervisors to Yoga. We are on centos8 stream. Once I update openstack and qemu/libvirt packages instances are not able to be live migrated to the hypervisor. Im seeing the following:
20:18:26 colby__ qemu-kvm: Missing section footer for 0000:00:01.3/piix4_pm#0122023-10-17T19:07:20.896349Z qemu-kvm: load of migration failed: Invalid argument
20:19:09 colby__ did the commands to migrate change at all with yoga release? Where can I see that in the code? Im wondering if this is a qemu update issue
20:50:14 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Install lxml before we need it in post-run https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898435
#openstack-nova - 2023-10-18
07:14:54 noonedeadpunk colby__: there was deprecation of live_migration_tunnelled in favor of native libvirtd migrations (live_migration_with_native_tls). Not sure if that is the reason of your issue, but smth to check I guess
07:15:55 noonedeadpunk As it seems that live_migration_tunnelled were not fully dropped as of today
07:53:11 tobias-urdin (proposed removing that but was not ok in bobcat, maybe will be done in caracal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/879021)
08:17:13 bauzas sean-k-mooney: dansmith: excellent news, my mtty WIP patch works with devstack and we can create instances https://paste.opendev.org/show/bBKFG3Vg7YTQBHPz11Za/
08:17:28 bauzas if we pre-create mdevs of course
08:23:18 bauzas I just need to fix the RP name which is because of the <parent> value in the mtty :)
08:23:38 bauzas or we can just meh this
12:58:23 sean-k-mooney bauzas: cool i was conidering extending the devstack plugin to be able to optionally precrete the mdev and generate the approate config as required but i have not had time to play with it yet
12:59:01 bauzas sean-k-mooney: we have some internal but report that I created for RHEL asking to fix the libvirt problem
12:59:31 bauzas but until this is fixed (and delivered to Ubuntu 22.04 somehow), we may need to precreate them indeed
12:59:40 bauzas I can do the plugin thing
12:59:54 bauzas if you don't mind
13:00:12 bauzas I'm not super expert in writing CI things, and that would improve a bit my knowledge
13:00:44 sean-k-mooney well it would jsut be an extion to the devstack plugin so you can dev that locally
13:03:57 sean-k-mooney baisclly i was going to add something like this NOVA_MDEV_TYPE=${NOVA_MDEV_TYPES:-$(ls /sys/devices/virtual/*/*/mdev_supported_types/ | grep -v ":" | xargs)}
13:04:30 sean-k-mooney and then loop over the NOVA_MDEV_TYPE list and allcoate all mdevs for each enabeld type
13:04:59 sean-k-mooney so by default we would be enabling all mdev but if you wnated to just enabel 1 or a set you could define NOVA_MDEV_TYPE in yoru local.conf
13:05:19 sean-k-mooney that should be NOVA_MDEV_TYPES consitnetly as it woudl be a list
13:06:21 bauzas okay, I can try to work on it
13:06:38 sean-k-mooney addtionally i was going to write the mdev uuids into a file per mdev type and create a systemd service file to create them if we wanted to test reboots in a followup
13:07:03 sean-k-mooney so intally jsut do it at runtime and if we wnated to test reboot later add that as a follow up
13:08:18 sean-k-mooney we can test reboots in ci we normally dont because it slows down the job a non trivial amount
13:09:39 bauzas cool
13:39:31 bauzas dansmith: https://paste.opendev.org/show/bBKFG3Vg7YTQBHPz11Za/ (at the bottom) is what you need to do in order to configure nova to use mtty
13:40:07 bauzas tl;dr: instead of specifying a pci address for the type named 'mtty-1', you just write 'mtty'
13:40:41 sean-k-mooney ya so i woudl be happy with sbauza-dev2_computer being sbauza-dev2_mtty
13:40:41 bauzas but in order to pass the pci address check we have, I hardcoded that string (plus the other module names) in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/898100/2/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#245
13:41:10 bauzas and sean-k-mooney had concerns about hardcoding that list
13:41:18 bauzas which I can understand
13:41:37 sean-k-mooney well partly becasue you dont even supprot all the modules that dan is compiling in the plugin
13:41:58 dansmith we can make up that list from looking in sysfs right?

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