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#openstack-nova - 2023-03-10
15:19:45 bauzas but we stopped
15:19:50 sean-k-mooney we are technially release with intermidarys so we are allowed to realse as often as we like
15:19:55 bauzas I want to provide tarballs back
15:20:10 sean-k-mooney well we are free too its just not done automatically
15:20:22 bauzas I know, and that's something I want to
15:20:33 bauzas and bobcat-3 too
15:21:03 sean-k-mooney i dont really object as long as we state that they are not full releases
15:21:04 bauzas last RC1 was juggling so I want some tarball that people can consume
15:21:17 bauzas before the rc1 one
15:21:23 sean-k-mooney i.e. we wont have bances for them so if they need bugfixes they will have to wiat fo rthe next one
15:21:37 bauzas sean-k-mooney: as a reminder, m-1 or m-3 are considered alphas on a semver
15:21:38 zigo IMO, just having a *subset* of OpenStack doing milestones isn't helpful. At the time, I was packaging all intermediary milestones, and nobody was consuming them ...
15:21:45 zigo (not even myself)
15:21:54 bauzas anyway, I need to leave for taxi reasons
15:22:03 sean-k-mooney o/
15:23:27 sean-k-mooney honestly i think distros that want to test early are just better having a conitues build of master somewhere
15:23:43 sean-k-mooney like having a nightly build so they see when we raise a min version or something
15:23:56 sean-k-mooney but not really shiping that outside of an experimtal channel
15:49:02 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yeah, that's the reason why I want more tarballs but the rc1 one
15:49:10 bauzas deployers can start to test them
15:49:23 bauzas even if they're not consumed by any user
15:50:13 bauzas also, say we have a rc1 issue like one we had last week, I'm afraid we could only have one tarball 3 weeks before GA if we don't have another one
15:50:46 bauzas hence why I'd like to have at least a m-3 tarball and maybe one for m-1 depending on what we already merged
15:57:24 sean-k-mooney bauzas: honestly im not sure tars help much but either way its just a commit to the release repo.
16:04:39 bauzas sean-k-mooney: well, maybe but it looks like some operators use a pip version for nova
16:05:07 bauzas so that may also help them to test this pip package version
16:05:18 bauzas anyway, this is simple to do, so let's do it
16:19:59 dansmith my experience is that most deployers want to build from a release tarball
16:29:25 elodilles i know it's mostly end-of-day already (end-of-week, even), but any idea about this weird issue: when bumping oslo.log u-c from 5.0.0 to 5.1.0 cross-nova-py310 seems to be failing: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/873390/
16:31:08 elodilles it seems that oslo.log 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 weren't even bumped, but that could be due to different issues. though what I see is there are eventlet related patches in oslo.log ( https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/compare/5.0.0...5.1.0 ). could that somehow interfere with those 2 failing unit tests?
16:58:07 gibi Uggla: I left some feedback in the Manial series. I planned to do more review on it today and even built a devstack with manila support to try things out. But run out of time before I can dig deep. I see some issues around ShareMapping.detach() and the instance delete with active shares code paths. So I left comments there
16:58:43 Uggla gibi, ok cool, I'll have a look
16:58:47 Uggla gibi, thx !
16:58:54 gibi I have the intention to look more and try this series out, but you can already check these two issues to see if it make sense what I found
16:59:57 Uggla gibi, I'm currently try to setup devstack with ceph.... it is a nighmare...
17:00:17 gibi I only run the default setup with manial so no ceph there
17:02:18 Uggla yep the one with NFS provided on Manila site is ok.
17:04:28 gouthamr Uggla: o/ is something failing with devstack and manila/ceph?
17:05:31 Uggla gouthamr, yep it is not working with jammy, package issue and same with centos stream 9
17:06:32 Uggla NFS Ganesha noarch packages 1.1 kB/s | 1.0 kB 00:00
17:06:32 Uggla NFS Ganesha packages for x86_64 14 kB/s | 13 kB 00:00
17:06:32 Uggla Ceph noarch packages 17 kB/s | 15 kB 00:00
17:06:32 Uggla Ceph packages for x86_64 68 kB/s | 76 kB 00:01
17:06:32 Uggla gouthamr, example on centos9 : ++functions-common:sudo_with_proxies:2391 sudo http_proxy= https_proxy= no_proxy= dnf install -y ceph nfs-ganesha nfs-ganesha-ceph nfs-ganesha-rados-urls nfs-ganesha-vfs
17:06:34 Uggla Error:
17:06:36 Uggla Problem: package ceph-2:16.2.11-0.el8.x86_64 requires ceph-mgr = 2:16.2.11-0.el8, but none of the providers can be installed
17:06:39 Uggla - cannot install the best candidate for the job
17:06:41 Uggla - nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0()(64bit) needed by ceph-mgr-2:16.2.11-0.el8.x86_64
17:06:43 Uggla (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' to use not only best candidate packages)
17:11:53 gouthamr ah; ty - that's frustrating - let me look at this, most likely devstack-plugin-ceph needs some updates; we're still testing with focal on the CI because packages for Jammy haven't showed up on download.ceph.com
17:12:37 gouthamr i haven't tried CS9-stream, i will and raise an issue with the ceph community
17:18:54 Uggla gouthamr, it seams i'm progressing pre installing ceph from https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/9-stream/storage/x86_64/ceph-pacific/
17:21:13 Uggla gouthamr, not sure if I'll end up with something that works but it has passed the devstack-plugin-ceph stage.
17:31:59 jrosser if anyone has any influence over availabilty of jammy packages at download.ceph.com it would be really really useful to get those published
17:43:14 sean-k-mooney jrosser: they are onder the debian folders
17:43:59 sean-k-mooney or at least they used to be
17:44:01 sean-k-mooney http://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific/dists/
17:44:19 jrosser i don't beleive there are any for quincy
17:44:49 sean-k-mooney yas so pacifici has focal and bionic
17:44:55 sean-k-mooney i dont see quincy at all
17:45:04 sean-k-mooney oh its there
17:45:11 sean-k-mooney but only focal
17:45:28 sean-k-mooney well and bullsye but that actully debian
17:45:35 sean-k-mooney it looks like they only build for the lts release
17:45:43 sean-k-mooney and havent added support for 22.04
17:46:30 sean-k-mooney i have 0 influance over that but im surpsied they have not clsoed that gap
17:47:34 jrosser i would like to belive it is not intentional
17:47:42 sean-k-mooney https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph
17:47:51 sean-k-mooney you can use the ubuntu ppa to get the downstream one
17:48:31 sean-k-mooney im not sure which release 17.1.0 is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceph/17.1.0-0ubuntu3
17:49:31 sean-k-mooney its quincy https://docs.ceph.com/en/latest/releases/index.html
17:50:12 sean-k-mooney jrosser: so if the disto package is an option for you thats a workaroudn for now i guess
17:51:11 jrosser it is very nice the way they provide versioned repos at download.ceph.com
17:51:30 sean-k-mooney yep i prefered using those one personally too
17:51:46 jrosser "as an operator" I want to test some version and stick rigidly to it unless i decide to change it
17:51:48 dansmith I surely hope that's not going away
17:52:07 sean-k-mooney it looks like its still built for 20.04
17:52:14 jrosser so taking the packages from ubuntu or UCA is really unappealing to me as the pinning is much harder
17:53:08 sean-k-mooney ya the 20.04 package might just work but i would be good to reach out to the ceph comuncity and see if it can get fixed
17:55:28 jrosser sean-k-mooney: btw i had an unrelated question - what would you expect to happen if you upload an aarch64 image to an x86 cloud and boot it?
17:55:52 jrosser becasue i was very surprised when it booted on an x86 node under emulation rather than fail
17:55:53 dansmith no valid host
17:56:05 dansmith did you set the arch on the image?
17:56:22 jrosser incorrectly - to 'arm'
17:56:25 sean-k-mooney jrosser: https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/49087 looks like they curerntly have som build issue due t python 3.10
17:56:50 dansmith I thought we filter hosts by arch, but maybe not
17:57:10 sean-k-mooney jrosser: emulation was added recently
17:57:21 dansmith ohhh, right
17:57:29 jrosser from the docs i though i had to set a property to make that happen
17:57:31 dansmith I thought you had to opt into that
17:57:39 clarkb https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/ceph is not UCA and shouldn't change
17:58:18 sean-k-mooney https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/yoga/implemented/pick-guest-arch-based-on-host-arch-in-libvirt-driver.html
18:00:05 jrosser whilst i was looking at this i thought there might be a docs bug here https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/scheduling.html#imagepropertiesfilter
18:00:09 dansmith seems like that shoudn't be easy to enable "accidentally"
18:00:37 jrosser 'Describes the machine architecture required by the image. Examples are i686, x86_64, arm, and ppc64.'
18:00:45 jrosser arm vs AARCH64 ^ there
18:01:43 sean-k-mooney jrosser: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/fields.py#L120-L171
18:02:15 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/arch.py#L16-L65
18:02:29 sean-k-mooney so you shoudl use aarch64
18:02:56 sean-k-mooney for 64bit arm

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