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#openstack-nova - 2022-11-22
16:31:33 gibi rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1333) [sender=3.2.3]
16:31:55 gibi ie https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/841444/4
16:32:06 gibi s/ie/eg/
16:32:34 elodilles gibi: rsync problem usually happened due to infra issues, but those usually temporary / intermittent issues
16:33:02 elodilles gibi: train is blocked, see above :)
16:33:05 gibi I got it mutliple times. I did a rebase at the start of the meeting if that hits the same I will ping the team again as that will mean it is blocked
16:33:08 opendevmeet Current chairs: bauzas gibi
16:33:08 bauzas #chair gibi
16:33:26 bauzas (just added gibi for chair, not sure the bot will correctly set the topics)
16:33:35 gibi elodilles: aaah,
16:33:45 gibi sorry it is a bit hard to be on two meetings in parallel
16:33:51 gibi so we know that train is broken
16:33:53 elodilles :S
16:33:57 gibi then I have no other question :)
16:34:04 elodilles gibi: yepp, but not with the rsync error
16:34:25 elodilles so that's a new thing if it is a permanent problem :(
16:34:26 gibi interesting
16:34:28 bauzas we should name the train bug "sncf" as train is always broken :)
16:34:42 gibi anyhow I will report back if the same failure happens in the recent rebase too
16:34:58 elodilles gibi: ack, thx
16:35:07 gibi I thank you :)
16:35:17 gibi any other topics on stable?
16:35:23 bauzas looks not
16:35:57 bauzas moving on ?
16:36:01 bauzas I'll need to speak in a little
16:36:26 gibi #topic Open discussion
16:36:30 gibi (jsanemet) Improve usage of privsep on Nova:
16:36:31 gibi Bug ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1996213 Proposal: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-privsep-review Does the change deserve a spec?
16:36:48 bauzas yeah so
16:37:22 gibi jsanemet: on the spec question. Do you feel you have open question that would need upfront decision from the core team?
16:37:25 bauzas I discussed with jsanemet about his efforts and I proposed him to present himself and discuss about how we could paper the privsep effort during the meeting
16:37:40 bauzas the spec thing was more a wonder we had
16:37:52 bauzas I don't honestly feel it requires one spec
16:38:06 bauzas but we tho need to consider documenting the new context usages
16:38:12 bauzas hence the etherpad
16:38:52 jsanemet hello
16:38:53 bauzas I don't see any upgrade impact, or any other impact which would require us to accept a spedc
16:39:38 bauzas anyone disagree with that plan ?
16:40:21 dansmith what is the effort? just finishing some things?
16:40:28 dansmith or something more complex?
16:40:29 bauzas dansmith: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-privsep-review
16:40:42 bauzas dansmith: this is about fine-graining the privsep context to the right callers
16:40:43 sean-k-mooney there are several
16:40:58 sean-k-mooney this looks like the first low haning fruit
16:40:59 dansmith yeah so splitting into different contexts?
16:41:06 sean-k-mooney yep
16:41:08 bauzas as a first step yes
16:41:21 dansmith I dunno, I think that's going to be a bunch of review of which calls need which contexts right?
16:41:31 bauzas that's my concern
16:41:35 bauzas I don't think we need a spec
16:41:35 dansmith some things might seem simple but require both net and sys, etc
16:41:38 bauzas but,
16:42:01 dansmith I guess I'm not sure why no spec
16:42:03 bauzas I'd appreciate if we would agree on the contexts and the callers not exacly by reviewing the patches
16:42:07 dansmith this etherpad is half a spec already
16:42:15 sean-k-mooney there proably should be a spec to define the scope
16:42:21 dansmith agree
16:42:27 bauzas there, we have our answer
16:42:37 bauzas we can use the spec format to agree on the split
16:42:57 sean-k-mooney sure
16:43:30 bauzas jsanemet: you're ok with the outcome ?
16:43:39 bauzas I can help you on the process-y thingie
16:44:05 jsanemet sure
16:44:22 jsanemet then, i will translate the etherpad into a spec and we can discuss it further
16:44:26 jsanemet seems good to me
16:44:33 bauzas from a paperwork pov, you may also need to supersede the rfe bug by creating a launchpad blueprint
16:44:48 bauzas but that's an easy peasy
16:45:01 bauzas anyway, looks like we have the direction
16:45:06 jsanemet yes, i am a little green regarding what documentation is required so any help will be appreciated
16:45:39 bauzas jsanemet: as a reminder, you have a spec template https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/2023.1/template.html
16:46:10 bauzas I guess that's it for today
16:46:11 jsanemet all right, i will save that
16:46:15 jsanemet thanks a lot
16:46:36 bauzas ok, folks, any other item to raise before we call the wrap ?
16:46:58 bauzas looks not
16:47:01 bauzas perfect timing
16:47:05 bauzas thanks all
16:47:08 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2022/nova.2022-11-22-16.01.log.html
16:47:08 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2022/nova.2022-11-22-16.01.txt
16:47:08 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2022/nova.2022-11-22-16.01.html
16:47:08 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 16:47:08 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:47:08 bauzas #endmeeting
16:47:12 gibi :)
16:47:13 elodilles thanks bauzas o/
16:47:26 gibi thanks folks
16:47:37 jsanemet thanks o/
17:36:21 gmann sean-k-mooney: bauzas: replied on focal new job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/861111/5/.zuul.yaml#653
17:36:52 gmann basically grenade job run only smoke test not all the tests. having a integrated job running on focal cover it well
17:37:42 sean-k-mooney gmann: im not sure we want full coverage since we are only supprotign it for upgrade but we could i guess
17:38:04 sean-k-mooney we run more then smoke in the multinode grenade job by the way
17:38:12 sean-k-mooney liek cold/live migration
17:38:14 gmann that was point there in PTG, to make sure we run the complete tests
17:38:43 sean-k-mooney that kind fo feels like overkill to me
17:38:52 gmann that is why we added Focal i testing runtime too https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/runtimes/2023.1.html
17:38:59 sean-k-mooney we never did that for moving form 18.04->20.04 did we
17:39:20 gmann sean-k-mooney: this is new change we discussed in TC
17:39:36 gmann https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/860599
17:39:46 sean-k-mooney ok but if its just for upgrade im not sure we shoudl do more then run multinode grenade
17:40:49 gmann multinode grenade does not run complete tests, if testing runtime have requirement of testing Focal I feel we should run integrated tests on that not just grenade small set of tests
17:41:09 sean-k-mooney i disagree

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