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#openstack-nova - 2022-11-16
16:29:10 bauzas sean-k-mooney: see my concern ?
16:39:25 sean-k-mooney well i was thinking of having the first be the low power and second high
16:39:37 sean-k-mooney but you could just add 2 config options
16:39:43 sean-k-mooney for high and low
16:40:03 sean-k-mooney dictopts are supporte by oslo but we dont currently use them in nova
16:40:25 bauzas correct hence me reluctant
16:40:40 sean-k-mooney bauzas: its really just the active/high-power one that we really care about
16:40:59 sean-k-mooney powersave runs the cpu at the lowest frequency it can without turning off
16:41:10 sean-k-mooney performance is the opicite
16:41:31 sean-k-mooney in general you would not want to hardcode perfromace if your trying to manage power
16:41:58 sean-k-mooney so if the high power one was configurable that woudl be enough
16:42:15 sean-k-mooney if you want to keep it simple howwever why not add two config options
16:42:36 sean-k-mooney cpu_high_power_govoner and cpu_low_power_govoner
16:42:41 sean-k-mooney just simple stings
16:42:58 bauzas yup, that's what I write now
16:43:05 sean-k-mooney works for me
16:43:10 bauzas we could bikeshed on the namings
16:43:11 sean-k-mooney gibi: ^
16:43:52 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Proposes cpu power managment in libvirt https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/861591
16:43:59 bauzas there you go
17:10:27 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate mdev creation and hardfail on reboot when missing. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864418
17:10:28 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Handle mdev devices in libvirt 7.7+ https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/838976
17:10:28 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Reproducer for bug 1951656 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/850673
17:25:46 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Ironic nodes with instance reserved in placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864773
17:28:23 johnthetubaguy gibi: I think I may have found an "interesting" way to close that ironic scheduler race with automatic clean, but it feels a bit wrong, its a follow on from that patch you reviewed yesterday: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864773
17:31:34 gibi johnthetubaguy: that is a clever one
17:32:21 johnthetubaguy it might be too clever, but it seems to work... funky right?
17:33:10 gibi I think we intentionally designed placement in a way that it allows reserving already allocated inventories
17:33:27 gibi but not allow allocating reserved ones
17:33:47 gibi so I think what you do is OK from placement perspective
17:36:22 gibi how likely that a big ironic deployment has no cleaning configured and the update_provider_tree periodic is set to a big value due to preformance reasons?
17:36:35 johnthetubaguy OK, neat. I remember some related discussions around increasing host reserved memory, and it sounded OK ish.
17:37:14 johnthetubaguy ... unsure, that is a very good question. Most large deployments I work on do automatic cleaning, but I know that far from representative
17:37:38 johnthetubaguy (I have to run I am afraid, I am told my dinner is going cold)
17:37:59 gibi johnthetubaguy: no worries. I will leave the feedback in the review
17:40:42 gibi have a nice dinner
17:45:53 sean-k-mooney o/ just saw the comment on ironic reivew
17:46:08 sean-k-mooney is the plan to proceed with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/842478 anyway
17:46:17 sean-k-mooney if so i can review again tomorrow
17:47:44 sean-k-mooney i am mostly out of brain power today but i dont mind looking at it in the morning
17:48:41 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864773 is the other one? to review with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/842478
17:51:52 sean-k-mooney and yes if you are over allcoated you cannot make new allcoations
17:52:01 sean-k-mooney but i think you are right that you can modify the reserve value
17:53:04 sean-k-mooney like you can go form reservice 0 cpus to 10 and if that would over allocate that is fine it will be resolved when a vm is delete/moved
17:54:01 sean-k-mooney i have not looked at johnthetubaguy clever solution but form context i assume it invovles setting the reserved value to 1 for the custom resoucs inventory that represnt the baremetal hosts
18:03:08 opendevreview Rafael Weingartner proposed openstack/nova master: Nova to honor "cross_az_attach" during server(VM) migrations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864760
22:02:18 opendevreview Rafael Weingartner proposed openstack/nova master: Nova to honor "cross_az_attach" during server(VM) migrations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864760
23:41:22 opendevreview Younghwan Yoo proposed openstack/nova master: Update return value to be a valid UUID https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864674
#openstack-nova - 2022-11-17
01:57:53 melwitt bauzas: this patch looks relevant to your interests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864674
05:59:57 opendevreview Jorhson Deng proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the small pagesize in numa_fit_instance_to_host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864812
08:04:56 opendevreview Jorhson Deng proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the small pagesize in numa_fit_instance_to_host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864812
08:42:46 opendevreview Jorhson Deng proposed openstack/nova master: Optimize the small pagesize in numa_fit_instance_to_host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/864812
09:44:05 johnthetubaguy When you run functional tests on your dev box, and you get loads of errors due to no valid host, it probably means I am doing something stupid, has anyone else hit that at all please?
10:09:15 bauzas johnthetubaguy: which testcases ?
10:11:16 johnthetubaguy good question, mostly the ones that use placement
10:11:41 johnthetubaguy there are loads of them in the functional suite, one example is: nova.tests.functional.wsgi.test_services.TestServicesAPI.test_resize_revert_after_deleted_source_compute
10:11:54 johnthetubaguy pretty sure its my environment being broken, as so many fail
10:19:47 johnthetubaguy ah, so I think it was by default python3 being 3.8, oops!
10:20:08 johnthetubaguy curiously, unit tests are just fine, but functional tests, no so much
10:22:12 bauzas johnthetubaguy: sorry was on a meeting
10:22:28 johnthetubaguy no worries, the fix was simple enough in the end
10:22:34 bauzas johnthetubaguy: yesterday I ran some reshape function tests locally and I had no problem
10:22:48 johnthetubaguy yeah, its my bad default python version, thats all
10:22:56 bauzas johnthetubaguy: oh, so due to py38 ? strange if so
10:23:02 johnthetubaguy yeah
10:23:11 bauzas I guess you recreated your venv too ?
10:23:31 johnthetubaguy I suspect something had failed to start and I didn't notice that, all I noticed was lots of no valid host exceptions
10:23:43 johnthetubaguy so tox spotted it and did the re-create
10:23:56 bauzas and it worked then ?
10:24:13 johnthetubaguy in tox.ini the base python is python3 rather than python3.9 I guess, which caused my "fun"
10:24:18 johnthetubaguy yeah, its working fine now
10:24:21 bauzas I suspect some os-resource-classes or os-traits library update wasn't updated
10:24:35 bauzas hence placement failing and then the novalidhosts eventually
10:24:45 bauzas doing the tox -r updated the deps
10:24:47 johnthetubaguy ah... got you, very possible
10:25:10 johnthetubaguy actually, I remember seeing some os-traits error actually
10:25:20 bauzas yeah, we hardfail on the number of traits
10:25:40 johnthetubaguy it was a missing attribute error I think, which is basically the same thing
10:25:48 bauzas cool
10:25:58 johnthetubaguy well mystery solved, thank you!
10:26:07 bauzas np, glad you fixed it by yourself :D
10:26:31 johnthetubaguy (makes bashing with a hammer noises)
10:27:06 bauzas :)
10:44:00 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Functional test test_boot_reschedule_with_proper_pci_device_count https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/760354
10:44:01 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Fix PCI passthrough race on reschedule (claims) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/710847
10:44:01 opendevreview John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Fix PCI passthrough race on reschedule (refresh) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/710848
11:02:59 johnthetubaguy gibi: I think you reviewed those in the past, I am not sure it answers all your questions, but I put the functional test first, in an attempt to work out which patches are needed. Its a nasty bug that on re-schedule you try to get the wrong PCI device, but fail with in-use errors.
11:03:54 sean-k-mooney johnthetubaguy: so i was thinking about your ironic patch for reserving on schedule over night
11:04:04 sean-k-mooney i think in general its a good idea
11:04:32 sean-k-mooney there was some concern about if cleaning was used or not in large cloud right extendign the time they would be unavaiable
11:05:04 johnthetubaguy yeah, gibi was mentioning that, and well, I don't disagree
11:05:11 sean-k-mooney if we wanted to cater for that we coudl make this configurable but i think the its proably ok ot reserve by default or uncondtionally
11:05:39 johnthetubaguy yeah, it feels like a future workaround config, if its a problem for people
11:05:56 johnthetubaguy interestingly, I think it fixes an extra case I should add to the commit...
11:06:25 sean-k-mooney oh what one
11:07:12 johnthetubaguy when you mark an in-use node as in maintenance mode as its broken, user gets to delete their instance when they are ready, and that goes into clean failed (depending on your ironic config), we don't hit the race with our placement updates any more either
11:07:27 johnthetubaguy we had the same window with that, once the allocation is removed when the instance is deleted
11:08:05 sean-k-mooney oh ok so clean failed happens because it in mantainance
11:08:14 sean-k-mooney and cant actully start cleaning?
11:08:55 johnthetubaguy more that, we start sending new instances to the node that is in maintainance, shortly after the user deletes their nova server

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