| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2022-10-06 | |||
| 16:01:02 | dansmith | so you must have chosen the placeholder and placeholder+1 right? | |
| 16:01:11 | bauzas | can't remember sorry how I booked | |
| 16:01:25 | bauzas | the eavesdrop logs could tell me tho :) | |
| 16:01:33 | bauzas | but yeah, probablyu | |
| 16:01:45 | dansmith | well, cinder chose one of the placeholders, so they feel like they did the right thing | |
| 16:01:52 | bauzas | so, nova has two slots back-to-back on tues 1-3 | |
| 16:02:01 | dansmith | but maybe it's less of a problem because we only have an hour overlap for the second hour | |
| 16:02:02 | bauzas | cinder has one slot 2-3 | |
| 16:02:07 | bauzas | zactly | |
| 16:02:17 | dansmith | so it was *nova* that caused the conflict :) | |
| 16:02:41 | bauzas | I pledge non-guilty | |
| 16:02:44 | bauzas | :D | |
| 16:03:05 | dansmith | I judge you guilty regardless :) | |
| 16:03:06 | bauzas | I won't say anything by now till I have a lawyer, sir. | |
| 16:03:23 | dansmith | does france have protection against self-incrimination? | |
| 16:03:54 | bauzas | we have a "non-guilty, always innocent until proven" policy | |
| 16:04:07 | dansmith | yeah that's not the same :) | |
| 16:04:34 | bauzas | damn you, I'm grabbing the logs :p | |
| 16:04:55 | dansmith | bauzas: maybe we should just drop ours down to the first hour then to avoid conflict, since that was the ask from the TC? | |
| 16:05:07 | bauzas | also, just noted that there is a conflicting operator placeholder on Monday 1-2pm too | |
| 16:05:21 | dansmith | we could have another bonus slot later, which might be better anyway for people not free in that two-hour slot | |
| 16:05:28 | bauzas | frankly, I don't know how the placeholders were provided | |
| 16:05:45 | dansmith | I don't see a conflict on monday | |
| 16:06:13 | bauzas | did I say Monday ? | |
| 16:06:15 | bauzas | shit. | |
| 16:06:19 | bauzas | speaking of Tuesday | |
| 16:07:14 | dansmith | that should be our slot | |
| 16:07:26 | dansmith | perhaps we didn't remove the slot we took when we moved it to our room? | |
| 16:07:47 | dansmith | we should probably do that to avoid another conflict | |
| 16:07:52 | dansmith | gmann: can you advise? | |
| 16:09:05 | bauzas | but yeah, I guess I took the two slots and haven't deleted the placeholders | |
| 16:09:06 | gmann | bauzas: yeah, if we can avoid the conflict with cinder | |
| 16:09:25 | bauzas | personally, I'd like to run a 2-hour session | |
| 16:09:32 | bauzas | one hour is too stretchy | |
| 16:09:35 | dansmith | bauzas: at this point I think we should just claim the first slot that we took at 13UTC, shrink to 1h to avoid the overlap | |
| 16:09:43 | gmann | nova has 3 operator-hours | |
| 16:09:49 | bauzas | for good reason | |
| 16:09:57 | bauzas | a 2-hour session for having time | |
| 16:10:08 | bauzas | and another hour for people not being to join on Tues | |
| 16:10:16 | bauzas | being able* | |
| 16:10:18 | gmann | how about shifting thosw to wed ? | |
| 16:10:31 | gmann | 2 hours continuous | |
| 16:10:37 | bauzas | gmann: again, I took those dates far in advance and I communicated them multiple times | |
| 16:10:58 | bauzas | I can move, but honestly I feel bad about it | |
| 16:11:24 | dansmith | it's unfortunate but we're just trying to resolve the issue | |
| 16:11:27 | gmann | ohk let's wait for whoami-rajat if they can shift their by an hour | |
| 16:11:51 | bauzas | and that's unfortunate, but I've just said the slots in https://youtu.be/MSbB3L9_MeY | |
| 16:12:17 | gmann | whoami-rajat: I know we talked about it in event channel but is it possible to move operator-cinder-hour at 15 UTC on tuesday ? | |
| 16:13:07 | bauzas | https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2022/nova.2022-09-06-16.00.html | |
| 16:13:16 | bauzas | that's where we agreed on the dates | |
| 16:13:41 | bauzas | and that's what I did for booking https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs/%23openinfra-events/%23openinfra-events.2022-09-06.log.html | |
| 16:14:14 | dansmith | bauzas: at the end of the day we just need to resolve the conflict | |
| 16:14:15 | gmann | sure, let's wait for whoami-rajat reply. it is ~10 PM for him so may be tomorrow morning. | |
| 16:14:17 | bauzas | I freed two slots we had reserved | |
| 16:14:31 | bauzas | dansmith: yeah, but I'm trying to understand how I ended up in such mes | |
| 16:14:33 | bauzas | mess | |
| 16:14:59 | bauzas | dansmith: I'm looking for alternatively moving the operator session by Thursday | |
| 16:15:39 | gmann | I think we planned for single slot of a hour and nova booking for 2 hours end up having conflict | |
| 16:16:01 | gmann | but 2 hours slot is not bad with the reason bauzas mentioned | |
| 16:16:19 | bauzas | OK, I think I got it | |
| 16:16:20 | bauzas | https://meetings.opendev.org/irclogs/%23openinfra-events/%23openinfra-events.2022-09-08.log.html | |
| 16:16:25 | gmann | may be next time we can have some 2 hours slot as placeholder too so that we can avoid this | |
| 16:16:43 | bauzas | I haven't really converted the operator placeholders, I just reused some slots I booked | |
| 16:17:06 | bauzas | and then, whoami-rajat just took the placeholder for cinder | |
| 16:17:13 | bauzas | hence the problem | |
| 16:17:22 | gmann | yeah | |
| 16:17:38 | bauzas | I should have unbooked the placeholder before | |
| 16:18:59 | gmann | it was worst when openstack-ops slot was booked at same time too but now it is shifted on Thursday 14 UTC | |
| 16:19:35 | gmann | bauzas: ^^ please check to avoid conflict to openstack-ops sessions too while rescheduling | |
| 16:19:56 | gmann | which is Thursday 14 UTC | |
| 16:21:00 | bauzas | ok, then this is impossible to move neither on Wed nor Thursday | |
| 16:21:11 | bauzas | we have the ironic operator slot on Wed | |
| 16:21:24 | bauzas | and on Thursday, we have the general operator-ops | |
| 16:21:35 | bauzas | frankly, this is hard to find another slot | |
| 16:21:55 | dansmith | so easiest is to just shrink to the first hour of our current slot right? | |
| 16:22:00 | bauzas | Friday isn't possible too, neutron operator hours are there | |
| 16:22:22 | bauzas | dansmith: or leave two others and let operators jump to cinder room if they want | |
| 16:22:30 | bauzas | two hours* damn. | |
| 16:22:44 | gmann | how about Tuesday 15-17 UTC ? | |
| 16:22:44 | dansmith | bauzas: I think we should probably be more fair to the operators and cinder and not do that | |
| 16:23:13 | gmann | i know they are not placeholder but that can avoid conflict | |
| 16:23:24 | dansmith | bauzas: it will be easy for an operator to just stay in our room instead of jumping, or be waiting over an hour for their topic and end up skipping the cinder thing | |
| 16:23:26 | bauzas | gmann: can we wait for whoami-rajat's feedback ? | |
| 16:23:43 | bauzas | we have two options AFAICS | |
| 16:23:53 | bauzas | 1/ nova moves the two hours to 15-17 | |
| 16:24:01 | bauzas | 2/ cinder moves by hour to 15-16 | |
| 16:25:02 | dansmith | bauzas: you don't think that following the original guideline of choosing one of the available one hour slots is a reasonable solution? come on now :) | |
| 16:26:47 | dansmith | doing that also lets the start time of each event not change for anyone who has already recorded it, or mentioned it on youtube :) | |
| 16:27:08 | bauzas | dansmith: technically, I took two slots, but I forgot to unbook the placeholders :/ | |
| 16:27:25 | dansmith | bauzas: which was not part of the plan right? | |
| 16:28:19 | bauzas | you know what ? I give up. | |
| 16:28:31 | bauzas | I'll move one of the 2 slots by one hour | |
| 16:28:40 | gmann | or w can keep Tuesday 1 hour and wed 2 hour slot ? | |
| 16:28:53 | bauzas | wfy ? | |
| 16:29:11 | gmann | i mean keeping starting time on Tuesday same as it is announced | |
| 16:29:21 | bauzas | gmann: I need to check availability on Wed | |
| 16:29:28 | bauzas | sec | |
| 16:29:43 | dansmith | extending the weds slot to two hours would be good yeah | |
| 16:29:51 | dansmith | keeps the same number of total hours, avoids the conflict | |
| 16:29:53 | bauzas | this is not possible | |