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#openstack-nova - 2022-06-14
13:10:34 bauzas sean-k-mooney: tl,dr: given of the nvidia driver issue (you can't ask for more than one VGPU per pGPU per instance), operators would then want to spread the vGPUs between multiple pGPUs
13:12:49 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Test aborting queued live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845748
13:26:14 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1960412 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845753
13:29:29 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Clean up when queued live migration aborted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845754
13:42:05 opendevreview Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: WIP : Support multiple allocations for vGPUs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845757
13:42:11 bauzas gibi: ^
14:15:50 gibi bauzas: left feedback :)
14:16:05 bauzas cool, this is just a WIP tho
14:17:19 bauzas gibi: thanks for commenting, those are good thoughts
14:18:25 gibi I didn't even relaized that it is a WIP, it has functional test :D
14:19:06 bauzas Zuul will hit my face as I think I'm closing some gaps
14:19:15 bauzas and I'll need to change some UTs
14:27:36 ygk_12345 can someone look into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1978562 please
14:32:52 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up mapping input to address spec types https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845765
14:36:29 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up mapping input to address spec types https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845765
15:02:10 opendevreview Elod Illes proposed openstack/placement stable/victoria: Add periodic-stable-jobs template https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/845770
15:03:28 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: remove default cputune shares value https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/824048
15:09:15 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Test aborting queued live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845748
15:10:56 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1960412 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845753
15:11:18 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Clean up when queued live migration aborted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845754
15:21:59 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused PF checking from get_function_by_ifname https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845775
15:30:50 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Fix type annotation of pci.Whitelist class https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845780
15:35:30 ygk_12345 can someone look into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1978562 please
15:40:23 bauzas reminder: nova meeting in 20 mins
15:50:57 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Move __str__ to the PciAddressSpec base class https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/845781
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16:00:00 bauzas #startmeeting nova
16:00:06 bauzas howdy back
#openstack-nova - 2022-06-15
03:29:03 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Reproduce bug 1953359 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/822047
03:29:10 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Extend the reproducer for 1953359 and 1952915 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/822048
04:28:23 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: [rt] Apply migration context for incoming migrations https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/822050
06:24:34 gibi sean-k-mooney: about hw:bfv=True. I don't think putting everything into flavor is a good idea. We already have the flavor explosion issue
06:25:50 gibi also in analogous for hw:bfv_type somebody could start asking for hw:port_vnic_type=direct
06:26:28 sean-k-mooney[m] they could but they have wanted to do that for years too
06:26:37 gibi and we said no :)
06:27:00 sean-k-mooney[m] yep im not sure the flavor explosion issue is reall still an issue
06:27:17 sean-k-mooney[m] i think operators are just used to there being many
06:27:18 gibi we still heard the term last week
06:27:45 sean-k-mooney[m] right but they just accept it and create lots of flavors
06:28:56 gibi OK, so if we say no for a long time to hw:bfv=True then they will accept that too :) and stop asking for more orchestrations
06:29:14 sean-k-mooney[m] like some of the telco provideders litrally create seperate flavors for every application in a multi app vnf automaticaly via heat
06:29:37 sean-k-mooney[m] well the latter will never happen
06:29:43 gibi :)
06:29:51 sean-k-mooney[m] but the flavor may not be the right place
06:30:13 sean-k-mooney[m] i dont thing its unreasonable to have a way to say always uses cinder volumes
06:30:32 sean-k-mooney[m] or always to it on these set of hosts by default
06:30:37 gibi if it is _always_ then this can be a config option
06:30:54 sean-k-mooney[m] not it cant be
06:31:05 sean-k-mooney[m] that would be config driven api behavior
06:31:20 gibi or even the admin can define the nova instance dir to be in a place with close to 0 disk space to force it
06:31:20 sean-k-mooney[m] which is one of the reasons we didnt like having a cinder images type
06:32:02 sean-k-mooney[m] well they can force it differntly via config options to day but its not somethign you can discover without trying to boot a vm
06:32:50 sean-k-mooney[m] they are stilll raising it as a pain point so obviouls they still want a way to do this
06:33:34 sean-k-mooney[m] i tried to adress this issue differntly in the past by proposing the idea of vm porfiles to have a semi composable flavor
06:35:11 sean-k-mooney[m] the profiles would only have extra specs that did not change resouce usage so therefor did not change billing
06:35:37 gibi extra spec can reqeust pinning that might be billed differently.
06:35:56 sean-k-mooney[m] as a use you can request that in your image
06:35:56 gibi but I feel I'm too negative today. sorry
06:36:21 sean-k-mooney[m] so if the falvor has not explictly disabled it you can always do that
06:36:30 gibi still dedicated cpus are billed differently in public clouds afaik
06:36:45 sean-k-mooney[m] right but that trivial to adress
06:36:57 sean-k-mooney[m] just put hw:cpu_policy=shared in the base flavors
06:37:42 sean-k-mooney[m] today if you do not do that you can just put hw_cpu_policy=deicated in the image
06:38:01 sean-k-mooney[m] i assumed you were going to bring up resouce:
06:38:17 gibi so in my mind this is similar to network connectivity. if you need it pass a pre-created port to nova. so I would move the whole disk question out from the flavor too. If you need disk (:D) then pass either a pre-created local-disk or a pre-created volume to the boot command.
06:38:21 sean-k-mooney[m] which is why i said extra specs that dont affect resouce useage
06:39:01 sean-k-mooney[m] fair so we should not add delete on terminate for port in the future right :P
06:39:40 gibi honestly. It is different what I would like to have and what we will do. I accept that
06:39:43 gibi :P
06:40:17 sean-k-mooney[m] hehe well we are both to busy to work on this in the near term
06:40:18 gibi I would remove the whole --nic net-id if I could
06:40:18 bauzas hola
06:40:23 sean-k-mooney[m] so just brainstorming
06:40:28 bauzas not sure I have the whole context
06:40:35 gibi yepp, it is just brainstorming
06:40:39 gibi bauzas: morning
06:40:46 gibi bauzas: take a seat, grab a coffee
06:40:47 bauzas morning folks
06:40:52 sean-k-mooney[m] bauzas o/
06:40:55 bauzas gibi: been there, done that :)
06:41:00 bauzas literrally
06:41:15 bauzas we're a Wednesday, I'm happy to work earlier
06:41:20 gibi I did not drink coffee since left Berlin
06:41:35 bauzas OMG
06:41:41 gibi I miss the taste
06:41:48 sean-k-mooney[m] i dont drink it on weekends which people find odd
06:42:16 bauzas as I have kids at home, I love those breaks just after lunch with my wife
06:42:44 bauzas I ask my children to go up to their bedrooms and we take 10 mins with a coffee :)
06:42:59 sean-k-mooney[m] thats a nice ritual
06:43:09 bauzas as I wasn't having a coffee, man...
06:43:15 gibi no kids, wife works non-remote so I have a lot of quite moments :D
06:43:16 bauzas how could I break :p
06:43:41 bauzas that said, I also had beers
06:43:53 gibi no beer for me since Berlin too :)
06:43:55 sean-k-mooney[m] i like to play with fryea {emma’s 8 month old puppy) when i grab a cup
06:43:55 sean-k-mooney[m] i like to play with fryea {emma’s 8 month old puppy) when i grab a cup
06:44:08 gibi yeah I need a cat
06:45:00 gibi so going back to hw:bfv=True

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