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#openstack-nova - 2022-03-22
16:31:23 bauzas but people can start looking at it after the meeting if they want
16:31:40 bauzas this is just, I don't want this branch holding because of one single job
16:31:40 elodilles gmann: ack
16:32:06 bauzas gmann: elodilles: I'd appreciate some DNM patches to make sure we don't hit this every change
16:33:15 bauzas looks we discuss all the thingies by now
16:33:20 bauzas discussed*
16:33:25 bauzas can we move ?
16:33:30 gmann did recheck on 828413, let's see
16:33:54 bauzas gmann: ++
16:34:11 elodilles yes, thanks, let's move on
16:35:15 bauzas last topic then
16:35:21 bauzas #topic Open discussion
16:35:24 bauzas I have one
16:35:32 bauzas (bauzas) Upgrade our minimum service check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/833440
16:35:50 bauzas takashi gently provided a changes for bumping our min version support
16:36:10 bauzas before merging it, I'd like to make sure all people here agree on it
16:36:24 dansmith so one thing we might want to consider,
16:36:32 bauzas (that said, there is a grenade issue on its change, so even with +Wing it...)
16:36:48 dansmith is a PTG topic about the check (and the problems with it that we didn't foresee) to see if there's any better way we could or should be doing that whole thing
16:36:56 dansmith and just punt on the patch until we have that discussion
16:37:34 bauzas I already opened a PTG topic
16:37:46 bauzas I'll add the service check in it
16:37:52 dansmith okay
16:39:00 bauzas just done
16:39:07 bauzas people agree with this plan ?
16:39:22 bauzas either way, as said the change itself has grenade issues that need to be fixed
16:39:43 bauzas and I don't see any reason for rushing on it being merged
16:39:49 bauzas we have the whole zed timeframe for this
16:40:05 elodilles (grenade issue might be because devstack does not have yet stable/yoga)
16:40:34 elodilles (so that should be OK in 1 or 2 days)
16:40:40 bauzas we haven't released stable/yoga
16:40:53 bauzas this will be done on next Wed
16:41:12 bauzas elodilles: but yeah, sounds this
16:41:30 elodilles ++
16:41:31 gmann yeah, we should do that soon, neutron face same ssue.
16:41:41 gmann elodilles: I will discuss in release channel
16:41:48 elodilles gmann: ack
16:43:18 bauzas ok, I guess we're done then
16:43:50 artom Oh, can we chat about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/833453?
16:43:53 bauzas #agreed let's hold https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/833440 until we correctly discuss this at the PTG
16:44:52 artom Really only bringing it up here because, as a periodic, we'd have to check up on the status, presumably here
16:44:56 artom Here == the meeting
16:45:13 bauzas artom: yeah, that's my point
16:45:24 bauzas we already do a few checks during the gate topic
16:45:45 bauzas but I wonder whether that wouldn't be better if we could agree on this at the PTG
16:46:19 EugenMayer is it possible to set the flavor of an instance manually using the api?
16:46:49 EugenMayer Oh - sorry. Still meeting time. Ignore me.
16:46:55 artom bauzas, doesn't seem controversial, but OK :)
16:47:07 bauzas artom: yup, I don't disagree
16:47:24 bauzas do people have concerns with adding a periodic check on whitebox ?
16:47:29 artom I guess the downside is CI resource usage, but... one nightly job seems OK?
16:47:58 bauzas I heard news of some CI resource shortage, but I'm not in the TC
16:48:10 artom Yet ;)
16:48:19 bauzas dansmith: gmann: can we just add a periodic job without being concerned ?
16:48:20 artom dansmith said someone is pulling out
16:48:31 artom (phrasing </archer>)
16:48:39 dansmith periodic is probably not a big deal I would imagine
16:48:54 dansmith I think we're going to need to trim down nova's per-patch jobs too, as it's getting pretty heavy
16:49:40 bauzas yeah, I don't think this is a big thing if we add a periodic
16:49:58 gmann yeah, and periodic also we can see if daily or weekly?
16:49:58 bauzas dansmith: adding a PTG topic about it fwiw
16:50:56 bauzas tbh, the only matter is how much we'll check its status and that will be weekly (during the team meeting)
16:51:04 gmann bauzas: artom along with periodic, add in experimental pipeline too for manual trigger. that helps to avoid adding it in check/gate pipeline if anyone want to run maually
16:51:38 artom bauzas, yep, no point in making it daily if we're only checking the status weekly
16:51:44 artom gmann, ack, can do
16:51:45 gmann +1
16:51:57 dansmith yeah daily seems excessive
16:53:07 bauzas artom: update this change with the weekly period time and mention in the commit msg we'll need to verify it during weekly meetings
16:53:43 bauzas look at the placement ones
16:53:50 artom Oh yeah!
16:53:56 gmann artom: https://github.com/openstack/placement/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L64
16:54:00 gmann yeah
16:54:15 bauzas this is another pipeline IIRC
16:54:15 artom Hah, that was easy
16:54:20 sean-k-mooney by the way i think weekly jobs in general suit use better as we can review them in the weekly meeting
16:54:32 sean-k-mooney if we have a nightly we proably wont look at it every day
16:54:38 bauzas oh yeah
16:54:51 bauzas I just hope this meeting won't transform into some CI meeting
16:54:57 chateaulav artom: nova zuul has an example of weekly periodic now
16:55:02 bauzas if we start adding more periodics
16:55:22 artom I mean, feel free to nack the idea entirely :)
16:55:29 sean-k-mooney bauzas: well it should just be (are they green no we shoudl look at X after the meeting)
16:55:31 artom I'll obviously try to debate/convince you
16:55:37 bauzas artom: nah, I like the idea, I just want us to buy it
16:55:47 artom But if we think whitebox doesn't bring value to Nova CI, let's just not do it :)
16:56:04 bauzas we're approaching meeting's end time
16:56:14 artom End times are nigh
16:56:18 bauzas any other item to mention before we close ?
16:56:19 sean-k-mooney :)
16:56:33 sean-k-mooney ah i actully had two blueprints i wanted to raise
16:56:47 sean-k-mooney we defered updating the defaults for allcoation ratios
16:57:00 bauzas sean-k-mooney: oh I forgot to mention I changed Launchpad to reflect zed as the active series
16:57:16 sean-k-mooney shall we proceed with that or discuss at ptg
16:57:29 sean-k-mooney also kasyaps blueprint for usign the new libvirt apis
16:57:35 bauzas we're a bit short in time for reapproving specless bps by now
16:57:37 sean-k-mooney can we retarget both to zed
16:57:45 sean-k-mooney ack
16:57:52 sean-k-mooney we can disucss it next week or at ptg
16:57:52 bauzas but we can look at them during next meeting
16:58:03 bauzas well, Zed is open

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