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#openstack-nova - 2021-11-16
15:56:15 dmitriis sean-k-mooney: yes, I agree. There are two cases: software and hardware vDPA. For soft vDPA there is an extra agent needed on the hypervisor host.
15:56:22 dmitriis so that definitely has some challenges
15:56:50 sean-k-mooney im hoping we can simple not specify a device_type and relay on remote_manged=True
15:56:53 dmitriis another interesting area is Scalable Functions (SFs) which rely on mdev and a vendor-specific driver
15:57:02 sean-k-mooney well maybe not we can see
15:57:17 sean-k-mooney dmitriis: yes i have worked with that in the past
15:57:40 dmitriis it kind of erases the benefits of hardware virtio tbh
15:57:41 sean-k-mooney its not clear that the mdev based apparoch will go to market or not at least form teh vendor i was workign with
15:58:09 sean-k-mooney well the mdev impleation can be in hardware and present virtio too
15:58:20 sean-k-mooney it predates the vdpa buss
15:58:27 dmitriis ah, in that case, I take it back :^)
15:59:34 whoami-rajat Hi, just to be sure the nova meeting is in this channel right?
15:59:43 dmitriis I was also thinking of what CXL would bring and how much churn will it introduce to the existing PCI management implementation in Nova
15:59:49 sean-k-mooney the protype i was working on used an fpga to implent virtio in "hardware" but the long term plan was to do that in an asic. i just dont know if they have pivitored to vdpa now or not but it was mdev based at the time
16:00:10 opendevmeet The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
16:00:10 opendevmeet Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
16:00:10 opendevmeet Meeting started Tue Nov 16 16:00:10 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
16:00:10 bauzas #startmeeting nova
16:00:18 gibi o/
16:00:21 elodilles o/
16:00:28 bauzas #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting
16:00:48 bauzas good 'day, everyone ;)
16:00:52 whoami-rajat Hi
16:00:56 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Integration With Off-path Network Backends https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/787458
16:01:11 gmann o/
16:01:38 bauzas I'll have to hardstop working in 45-ish mins, sooo
16:01:42 opendevmeet Current chairs: bauzas gibi
16:01:42 bauzas #chair gibi
16:01:44 bauzas sorry again
16:01:53 gibi so I will take the rest
16:02:13 bauzas anyway, let's start
16:02:20 bauzas #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
16:02:26 bauzas #info No Critical bug
16:02:33 bauzas #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New 28 new untriaged bugs (+3 since the last meeting)
16:02:38 bauzas #help Nova bug triage help is appreciated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage
16:02:43 bauzas I'm really a sad panda
16:03:07 bauzas in general, I'm triaging bugs on Tuesday, but I forgot about our today's spec review day :)
16:03:17 bauzas so I'll look at the bugs tomorrow
16:03:38 bauzas in case people want to help us, <3
16:03:52 bauzas any bug to discuss ?
16:04:26 bauzas #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/placement 33 open stories (+1 since the last meeting) in Storyboard for Placement
16:04:30 bauzas about thisq.$
16:04:34 bauzas this... *
16:04:48 bauzas I tried to find which story was new :)
16:05:15 bauzas but the last story was already the one I knew
16:05:20 bauzas so, in case people know...
16:05:49 dansmith o/
16:06:12 bauzas also, Storyboard is a bit... slow, I'd say
16:06:12 gibi bauzas: if at some point I have time I can try to dig but I pretty full at the moment
16:06:46 bauzas 5 secs at least everytime it takes for looking about a story
16:07:24 bauzas I mean, for stories, maybe we should use Facebook then ? :p
16:07:35 bauzas (heh, :p )
16:08:18 bauzas OK, this looks like a bad joke
16:08:20 bauzas moving on :p
16:08:30 bauzas #topic Gate status
16:08:36 bauzas #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure Nova gate bugs
16:08:47 bauzas nothing new
16:08:58 bauzas #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Placement periodic job status
16:09:24 bauzas now placement-nova-tox-functional-py38 job works again :)
16:09:26 bauzas thanks !
16:09:55 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:10:04 bauzas #info Yoga-1 is due Nova 18th #link https://releases.openstack.org/yoga/schedule.html#y-1
16:10:17 bauzas which is in 2 days
16:10:27 bauzas nothing really to say about it
16:10:32 bauzas #info Spec review day is today
16:10:52 bauzas I think I reviewed all the specs but one (but I see this one was merged ;) )
16:11:14 bauzas thanks for all who already reviewed specs
16:11:28 gibi yeah I think we pushed forward all the open specs
16:12:01 whoami-rajat Sorry If I'm interrupting but I had one doubt regarding my spec
16:12:04 bauzas we merged 3 specs today
16:12:41 bauzas whoami-rajat: no worries, we can discuss this spec if you want during the open discussion topic
16:12:52 whoami-rajat ack thanks bauzas
16:12:55 bauzas whoami-rajat: but what is your concern ?
16:13:07 bauzas a tl;dr if you prefer
16:14:03 bauzas for other specs, I'll mark the related blueprints accepted in Launchpad by tomorrow
16:14:21 whoami-rajat bauzas, so I'm working on the reimage spec for volume backed instances and we decided to send connector details with the reimage API call and cinder will do the attachment update (this was during PTG), Lee pointed out that we should follow our current mechanism of nova doing attachment update like we do for other operations
16:15:00 bauzas ok, if this is a technical question, let's discuss this during the open discussion topic as I said
16:15:26 whoami-rajat sure, np
16:15:42 bauzas ok, next topic then
16:15:46 bauzas #topic Review priorities
16:15:52 bauzas #link https://review.opendev.org/q/status:open+(project:openstack/nova+OR+project:openstack/placement)+label:Review-Priority%252B1
16:16:06 bauzas #info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/816861 bauzas proposing a documentation change for helping contributors to ask for reviews
16:16:16 bauzas gibi already provided some comments on it
16:16:58 bauzas I guess the concern is how to help contributors to ask for reviews priorities like we did with the etherpad
16:17:29 bauzas but if we have a consensus saying that it is not an issue, I'll stop
16:18:02 bauzas but my only concern is that I think asking people to come on IRC and ping folks is difficult so we could use gerrit
16:19:09 gibi what is more difficult? Finding the reason of a faul in nova code and fixing it or joing IRC to ask for review help?
16:19:46 sean-k-mooney well one you "might" be able to do offlien/async
16:20:01 sean-k-mooney the other invovles talking to peopel albeit by text
16:20:25 sean-k-mooney unfortunetly those are sometime non overlaping skill sets
16:20:32 bauzas gibi: I'm just thinking of on and off contributors that just provide bugfixes
16:20:33 gibi doing code review is talking to people via text :)
16:21:12 bauzas but let's continue discussing this in the proposal, I don't wanna drag the whole attention by now
16:21:19 sean-k-mooney bauzas: for one off patches i think the expectaion shoudl still be on use to watch the patchs come in and help them
16:21:28 sean-k-mooney rather ten assuemign they will use any tools we provide
16:21:49 bauzas sean-k-mooney: yeah but then how to discover them ?
16:22:08 bauzas either way, let's discuss this by Gerrit :p
16:22:10 sean-k-mooney well if its a similar time zone i watch for teh irc bot commeting for the patches
16:22:24 sean-k-mooney if i dont recognise it or the name i open it
16:22:49 sean-k-mooney and then one of use can request the reqview priority in gerrirt or publicise the patch to others

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