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#openstack-nova - 2021-10-05
16:28:17 sean-k-mooney we need to test interservice interaction
16:28:18 dansmith definitely need tempest, IMHO
16:28:26 bauzas oh yes
16:28:28 dansmith functional will definitely not cut it
16:28:30 sean-k-mooney lances intiall testing show we cant boot with a neutron port
16:28:37 bauzas can't see how we could achieve this without tempest
16:28:49 sean-k-mooney because neturon as configured by devstack at lest currently cant send the network plugged event correctly
16:29:01 dansmith sean-k-mooney: is that their fault or ours?
16:29:03 sean-k-mooney so we definetly need to do tempeest integration testing
16:29:14 dansmith seems like it's likely ours
16:29:15 bauzas we need a job
16:29:19 sean-k-mooney dansmith: not sure yet proably a mix of devstack config and our policy
16:29:32 dansmith or maybe a combo I guess. if they use a system-scoped token but need to augment with project maybe
16:29:34 dansmith sean-k-mooney: ack
16:29:48 bauzas and first and foremost, we need people working on it, if so :)
16:29:52 sean-k-mooney i think it enabeld the new policy on our side but did not create the nova user with the right scope and neutron config
16:30:27 sean-k-mooney so we enforced scope but the token neutron used did not have system scope but was an admin token
16:30:27 dansmith sean-k-mooney: honestly, I probably need to think on how that event interface should work
16:30:40 dansmith like maybe a system-scoped token that looks up any instance on the system is okay
16:31:02 dansmith I would normally think that should be project-scoped, because instances are project-scoped and events are tied to instances
16:31:11 dansmith but it's intended to mostly be used by other services, so .. I dunno
16:31:22 sean-k-mooney i think it should be system scope
16:31:27 bauzas do we have sort of guidance from the keystone team about those events ?
16:31:33 sean-k-mooney becasue as you said this is for service to service interaction
16:31:38 sean-k-mooney but ya its tricky
16:31:39 bauzas or is it us just picking what we want ?
16:31:48 dansmith sean-k-mooney: but it's not something you can ever do without a project-scoped resource ...
16:31:56 dansmith bauzas: we should probably consult a bit
16:32:10 sean-k-mooney dansmith: yep which is why its tricky
16:32:20 dansmith this is kinda my problem with system scope, is that it actually doesn't apply to a lot of stuff, because almost everything is a project-scoped resource
16:32:21 artom Can ports ever be system-scope?
16:32:35 artom Instances are obviously project-scope, but Neutron external events have to do with ports as well
16:32:38 sean-k-mooney im a little relucted to say that api should be project-admin however
16:32:39 bauzas if that becomes a goal, we need some owner of this goal, just sayin' :)
16:32:43 dansmith aggregates are the one example of a system-scoped resource I use a lot
16:32:49 artom Is there some funky network topology that can have system-scoped ports?
16:32:56 dansmith sean-k-mooney: that's another thing, definitely doesn't need admin
16:32:57 sean-k-mooney dansmith: it proably shoudl be system-admin with project-ide set
16:33:13 dansmith sean-k-mooney: that's project-scoped, AFAIK
16:33:20 dansmith events don
16:33:24 dansmith don't need to be admin either
16:33:33 sean-k-mooney the event api is admin only
16:33:48 dansmith they don't need to be, and I don't think they initially were
16:33:49 sean-k-mooney since enduser including operators are not ment to call it
16:34:01 dansmith but admin != scope
16:34:03 dansmith anyway
16:34:07 dansmith clearly needs some discussion and thinking
16:34:10 sean-k-mooney we could make it system member
16:34:17 sean-k-mooney so yes
16:34:25 sean-k-mooney we could drop admin but ya
16:34:29 bauzas could we now put our thoughts into https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-yoga-ptg L204 and move to other things ?
16:34:31 sean-k-mooney lets defer for now
16:34:49 sean-k-mooney am sure but we might want a sperate etherpad
16:35:00 sean-k-mooney linked form there to go though this in more detail
16:35:01 bauzas sean-k-mooney: feel free to link to it
16:35:09 bauzas also, this ties to my other point
16:35:28 bauzas for the moment, we don't have cinder, neutron and keystone cross project sessions at the PTG
16:35:52 bauzas I'd recommend us to engage some talks with the keystone team so we could wrap some stuff about RBAC during the PTG :)
16:35:54 bauzas just sayin'
16:35:58 sean-k-mooney if we had a neutorn one i have one potential topic
16:36:11 sean-k-mooney https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ovn_live_migration
16:36:17 bauzas ok, so, I guess I can ask the neutron folks and the keystone folks at least
16:36:23 bauzas for timeslots
16:36:55 gibi I don't have any neutron topic at the momement
16:36:56 bauzas lyarwood or others, do people feel wanting to discuss some cinder topics ?
16:37:21 artom I believe he dropped off early today, might want to check with him async
16:37:25 sean-k-mooney i think lee had one topic but lee wont be able to attend the PTG
16:37:26 bauzas gibi: I'll ask the neutron team if they have nova-specific concerns too
16:37:45 bauzas I know lyarwood wants to address the Manila thing
16:37:46 gibi sure
16:37:49 sean-k-mooney Removing os-volume proxy API during Yoga
16:37:59 sean-k-mooney that was the one that i tought lee might bring up
16:38:10 bauzas but here, the question is, do we need the Cinder team for discussing those topics ?
16:38:14 artom That doesn't really affect Cinder, does it?
16:38:24 bauzas artom: that's my question
16:38:37 bauzas do we have topics to discuss that engage the cinder team ?
16:38:44 bauzas I can leave this for next week
16:39:00 sean-k-mooney the manila thing beign supprot for virtio-fs
16:39:18 sean-k-mooney if so then no there is no interation nwith cinder in that case
16:39:44 bauzas for the keystone x-p session, do you think it would be nice for us getting the whole crew or only publicize our discussions about Secure RBAC so people like lance would join ?
16:40:52 sean-k-mooney assuming unified limits work will continue we might want to discuss that too but im not sure if there is anything left on the keystone side
16:41:18 sean-k-mooney dansmith: you wanted some changes to the lib interface i think but not sure if that needs to be covered at the ptg
16:41:34 dansmith no, I don't think soi
16:41:50 dansmith I also think that the issues have been resolved with some of my recent changes to oslo.limit,
16:41:53 dansmith but I need to circle back
16:42:00 dansmith regardless, nothing needing lots of discussion I don't think
16:42:11 bauzas yeah
16:42:22 bauzas so this is rbac only
16:42:39 bauzas we'll figure that out
16:42:50 bauzas moving on
16:42:53 bauzas #topic Stable Branches
16:42:59 bauzas Nova Wallaby 23.1.0 release is proposed #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/809000
16:43:05 bauzas Nova Victoria 22.3.0 release is proposed #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/812291
16:43:11 bauzas Nova Ussuri 21.2.3 release is proposed #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/812292
16:43:17 bauzas elodilles: other things to mention ?
16:43:31 elodilles i'll ping release folks to review those tomorrow
16:43:49 bauzas cool
16:43:50 elodilles and maybe we could merge this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/810461
16:44:02 bauzas oh
16:44:16 elodilles as far as i remember we agreed to accept this

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