| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-06-03 | |||
| 08:57:04 | bauzas | but yeah, we're 4 mins | |
| 08:57:07 | gibi | so in summary | |
| 08:57:07 | bauzas | left | |
| 08:57:49 | gibi | suzhengwei: please propose a spec. I don't see any problem supporting evac for paused and suspended VMs. But they will lose the in memory or suspended state. They will be fresh VMs on the dest host in stopped state | |
| 08:58:18 | kashyap | Yeah; makes sense. | |
| 08:58:24 | suzhengwei | I will. | |
| 08:58:26 | kashyap | (On spec) | |
| 08:58:32 | gibi | suzhengwei: cool, thanks | |
| 08:58:48 | gibi | any last words before we stop the meeting? ;) | |
| 08:59:03 | suzhengwei | nothing from me. | |
| 08:59:07 | gibi | XinxinShen: ? | |
| 08:59:37 | XinxinShen | nothing for me. thanks. | |
| 08:59:56 | gibi | then thanks for joining. please continue discussion if needed | |
| 09:00:00 | gibi | I just stop the meeting log here | |
| 09:00:04 | gibi | #endmeeting | |
| 09:00:06 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jun 3 09:00:04 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 09:00:07 | opendevmeet | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_extra/2021/nova_extra.2021-06-03-08.00.html | |
| 09:00:08 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_extra/2021/nova_extra.2021-06-03-08.00.txt | |
| 09:00:09 | opendevmeet | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_extra/2021/nova_extra.2021-06-03-08.00.log.html | |
| 09:00:23 | bauzas | right on time | |
| 09:02:59 | kashyap | gibi: Remind me again, what's the case against trying to "resume" the saved state on the destination, instead of a fresh rebuild (which loses the state)? Because it also involves dealing with the state file transportation? | |
| 09:03:31 | gibi | kashyap: if we need to take care of HW compatibility then we have to blow up the evac process | |
| 09:03:46 | kashyap | gibi: Oh, yikes; yes. How come I forgot so quickly | |
| 09:03:59 | gibi | live migration is special :) | |
| 09:04:17 | kashyap | Tell me all about it. | |
| 09:04:23 | gibi | :D | |
| 09:05:04 | kashyap | gibi: I'm not the person for GIFs, but this captures it: https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/Live-Migration.gif | |
| 09:05:42 | kashyap | (Not sure if it's loading correctly for you) | |
| 09:06:02 | gibi | ooh, that is good | |
| 09:06:10 | gibi | I will distribute it :) | |
| 09:06:17 | kashyap | You're welcome ;-) | |
| 09:06:28 | gibi | thanks | |
| 09:06:34 | kashyap | gibi: Does it load smoothly for you? For me not here, strangely | |
| 09:06:43 | gibi | it works for me from firefox | |
| 09:06:54 | gibi | smooth and on auto repeat | |
| 09:07:13 | kashyap | Ah, nod. (It goes in super slow-motion on FF and Chromium.) | |
| 09:10:13 | bauzas | gibi: I think we have a formal contract with evacuate | |
| 09:10:28 | bauzas | gibi: this is badly named as it's a recreate | |
| 09:10:43 | bauzas | if you really want to have persisted storage, use volumes | |
| 09:11:12 | bauzas | because if not, we'll recreate the instance, even on shared storage | |
| 09:12:54 | gibi | yeah, we should just drop evac and change rebuild to detect if the compute is dead and then rebuild the instance on anther host. (partly joking) | |
| 09:13:47 | bauzas | gibi: and chicken will have teeth | |
| 09:14:34 | gibi | OK, I guess this is some French saying :) | |
| 09:14:36 | bauzas | but yeah, this extra API action is confusing | |
| 09:14:45 | bauzas | and the wording is horrible | |
| 09:15:43 | bauzas | gibi: for your european culture https://blogs.transparent.com/french/when-pigs-fly-and-chicken-have-teeth-impossible-french-expressions/ | |
| 09:16:21 | gibi | thank you | |
| 09:16:30 | jchorin | Hi everyone! I would like to enable TLS for my nova service, setting the `cert` and `key` parameter in nova.conf did not seem to have any effect on the nova-api. Is there a right way to do it? | |
| 09:16:34 | bauzas | gibi: I guess you probably have other expressions like this in your own language | |
| 09:18:39 | bauzas | either way, dropping for a few | |
| 09:19:53 | gibi | Ok for me this chikent thing would be : "when red snow falls (... with black dots) " | |
| 09:21:38 | gibi | which was OK in my childhood, but recently we got sand from Sahara sometimes and that can make the rain red, so I can imagine that we can get red snow in the same way | |
| 09:46:06 | bauzas | gibi: indeed, when you live close to the mountains, you see red snow ;) | |
| 09:46:21 | bauzas | actually, more likely orange snow | |
| 09:46:51 | gibi | yeah it is orange-red rain that happens here | |
| 09:47:06 | gibi | it makes everything dirty :/ | |
| 09:47:53 | bauzas | gibi: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nCCAirhi8sZ3vDyc9 some pic from last winter ;) | |
| 09:48:38 | gibi | It looks like it made with a sepia filter :) | |
| 09:48:59 | bauzas | indeed, but no, just a regular pic ;) | |
| 09:49:08 | gibi | crazy | |
| 09:49:58 | bauzas | and this was on a morning, not during sunset | |
| 09:50:54 | bauzas | imagine a lost skiing resort as the lifts were closed with this sky | |
| 09:51:09 | bauzas | probably a good place and time for a new Hitchcook movie | |
| 09:51:34 | bauzas | I loved the abandoned atmosphere :) | |
| 10:02:15 | sean-k-mooney | its almost mars like | |
| 10:03:35 | sean-k-mooney | how did the first meeting go this morning | |
| 10:08:12 | sean-k-mooney | suzhengwei: we spoke about evacuation for suspended and stopped instace at the ptg. i assume you added that topic but were not able to attend when we discussed it | |
| 10:09:34 | sean-k-mooney | suzhengwei: the feedback at the time was to submit a spec, intoduce a new microversion and have the state transtion as follows | |
| 10:09:36 | sean-k-mooney | Shelved -> Shelved or Shelved_offloaded ? | |
| 10:09:38 | sean-k-mooney | Paused -> Stopped | |
| 10:09:40 | sean-k-mooney | Suspended -> Stopped | |
| 10:09:57 | sean-k-mooney | active -> active | |
| 10:10:44 | sean-k-mooney | actully Shelved -> Shelved or Shelved_offloaded ? is not relevnet | |
| 10:11:03 | sean-k-mooney | well ok it kind of is but in a subtel way | |
| 10:11:30 | sean-k-mooney | shelved instance still have a host but you have a choice of if you will shleve it to a different host or shleve offload it | |
| 10:12:15 | sean-k-mooney | suzhengwei: hence the ? as its an open question which would be the correct behavior but that should be adressed in the spec | |
| 10:13:25 | sean-k-mooney | suzhengwei: im happy to review the sepc if you propose it so feel free to ping me or add me to the review once its pushed. | |
| 10:23:45 | gibi | sean-k-mooney: thanks sean-k-mooney for remembering that we talked about that on the ptg, I already forgot | |
| 10:23:55 | gibi | but we concluded the same thing today :) | |
| 10:24:09 | sean-k-mooney | gibi: well a least we were consitnet in our feedback | |
| 10:24:14 | gibi | yepp | |
| 10:24:15 | sean-k-mooney | so thats a good sign at least | |
| 10:39:30 | sean-k-mooney | lyarwood: by the way since https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794252 is chanigng the virt dirver interface its nice to email the list about it | |
| 10:39:58 | sean-k-mooney | which is ironic since we dont support out of tree virt drivers | |
| 10:45:59 | lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: ack yeah will do | |
| 11:43:57 | hemanth_n | hi can I get final reviews + workflow on this clean backport patch on queens https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/761825 .. already Elod reviewed and gave +2, thanks elod | |
| 11:50:11 | sean-k-mooney | melwitt: lyarwood can you take a look at ^ | |
| 11:51:34 | sean-k-mooney | granted at this point we likely wont pull this downstream since we wont have any new releases based on 13 at this point but it would still be good to fix for those on queens still | |
| 12:10:25 | jchorin_ | Hi everyone! I am trying to enable TLS on the nova API. Setting `cert` and `key` in nova.conf did not change anything except for the novncproxy. Is there another way to do it? | |
| 12:15:40 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: is the nova api using the copy of the nova.conf you updated | |
| 12:15:51 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: some installer create mulitple | |
| 12:18:30 | jchorin_ | Yes that is the one installed with the nova package and used by the process when started | |
| 12:19:25 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: how are you running nova-api | |
| 12:19:58 | sean-k-mooney | with the eventlet console script or via a wsgi server like appach or uwsgi | |
| 12:20:14 | sean-k-mooney | * apache mod_wsgi | |
| 12:22:16 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: i assume you set it in the default section https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.cert | |
| 12:22:54 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: if its runnign under uwsgi or mod_wsgi you likely need to do the cert configurtion in the wsgi server instead | |
| 12:24:16 | sean-k-mooney | jchorin_: like this https://github.com/openstack/kolla-ansible/blob/master/ansible/roles/nova/templates/nova-api-wsgi.conf.j2#L47-L51 | |
| 12:25:17 | jchorin_ | I added it in the default section yes. | |
| 12:25:18 | jchorin_ | It is started with `python3 /usr/bin/nova-api ...` | |