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#openstack-nova - 2021-06-02
22:32:55 tosky melwitt: crossing fingers :)
22:33:13 melwitt :)
#openstack-nova - 2021-06-03
01:19:17 gmann melwitt: replied on this - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/762013/2/doc/source/configuration/policy-concepts.rst#220
01:20:03 gmann melwitt: I agree on your point. I will add the current limitation for force_host and requested_destination
01:20:41 gmann zero_disk and external-network seems good. later one depends on neutron policy but that is open for project reader also
01:37:05 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Remove PROJECT_ADMIN limitation from zero-disk and external-network policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794360
01:38:07 gmann melwitt: ^^
02:18:06 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Improve policy doc for supported scope info https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/762013
02:18:10 gmann melwitt: stephenfin ^^ updated
05:06:39 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Make test_refresh_associations_* deterministic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794396
05:10:22 melwitt gmann: did you mean to remove the table when you went from PS2 to PS3? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/762013/2..3/doc/source/configuration/policy-concepts.rst#b307
05:17:05 melwitt added a comment on the review ^
07:44:13 bauzas hmpf, reminder that we have an office hour in 15 mins , I guess
07:58:04 gibi yes
07:58:09 gibi in 2 mins :)
07:58:17 gibi ...
07:58:17 gibi I'm almost ready to start
08:00:16 gibi #startmeeting nova_extra
08:00:17 opendevmeet Meeting started Thu Jun 3 08:00:16 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
08:00:18 opendevmeet Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
08:00:20 opendevmeet The meeting name has been set to 'nova_extra'
08:00:58 gibi welcome o/
08:01:16 suzhengwei__ \o/
08:01:38 XinxinShen o/
08:01:51 gibi ... waiting a minute to lets everybody join
08:03:24 gibi So a quick summary. We agree to have this meeting time slot one a Months in every first Thursday here in #openstack-nova
08:03:33 gibi s/one/once/
08:04:04 gibi but we haven't talked about yet what would be a good format for it
08:04:19 gibi should we go through the normal meeting agenda
08:04:33 gibi talking about bugs, CI, release, stable,
08:04:44 gibi or just go with an open agenda, like in an office hour
08:05:06 gibi what is the preference of the people present?
08:05:14 gibi I can do both if needed
08:07:07 suzhengwei__ This is the first extra meeting. My colleague didn't prepare for it enough.
08:07:18 gibi suzhengwei__: no worries
08:07:56 suzhengwei__ Open agenda will be all right.
08:08:09 gibi If no oppinions about the format then I would go with the simple open agenda
08:08:19 gibi suzhengwei__: cool, then we are on the same page
08:08:23 suzhengwei__ ok
08:08:27 gibi and we can change later if needed
08:08:59 gibi I have one agenda point for today
08:09:47 gibi just want to refresh the process we have in nova about the release
08:09:56 gibi so we just had Milestone 1 last week
08:10:07 gibi that that point of time there is no special deadline in nova
08:10:23 gibi the next Milestone will happen in 5 weeks from now
08:10:33 gibi at Milestone 2 we will do spec freeze
08:11:09 gibi it means that if you have open specs then you have to get merged before M2 or it will need to be re-proposed to the Y release during the autumn
08:11:21 gibi I'm planning to have a spec review day before M2
08:11:29 gibi similarly how we had such day before M1
08:12:12 gibi those features that got approved before M2 could be implemented and merged before M3
08:12:20 gibi at M3 we will have feature freeze
08:12:34 bauzas sorry for being late, got some issue with my laptop notification
08:12:42 gibi bauzas: no worried :0
08:12:43 gibi :)
08:13:03 gibi basically this is the importnat deadlines
08:13:20 gibi the exact dates are #link https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html
08:13:31 gibi is there any question about these?
08:14:42 suzhengwei__ Got it.
08:15:12 gibi cool
08:15:47 gibi that was what I prepared for today.
08:15:53 gibi Is there any topic you want to discuss?
08:15:53 bauzas next open office hour would be around the spec freeze
08:16:01 bauzas so, I have a concern
08:16:02 gibi bauzas: god point
08:16:05 gibi good even
08:16:20 gibi bauzas: tell us
08:16:29 bauzas how can we help contributors that are not in the nova meeting for their own specs ?
08:16:41 bauzas how can we discuss ?
08:17:08 gibi bauzas: what problem do you see that we need to dicuss in a meeting? stuck reviews?
08:17:19 bauzas and if we want to have priorities between some reviews, how could we know which ones ?
08:18:05 bauzas gibi: my point is that sometimes it's nice to discuss directly in IRC when you have some spec questions
08:18:10 gibi sure
08:18:19 gibi but it does not need to be a in the form of a meeting
08:18:28 bauzas yup
08:18:50 bauzas so, I wonder how we could help the contributors that aren't around in general
08:18:53 gibi still if there is question now, I'm happy to hear them even during this meeting
08:19:22 gibi bauzas: I'm OK to do discussion primarily in the spec review
08:19:52 gibi and if we hit a wall there then we can try to find a common time between the spec author and the reviewers to resolve
08:19:57 gibi the block
08:20:01 bauzas yup
08:20:16 gibi suzhengwei, XinxinShen do you have a view on this?
08:21:22 gibi do you feel it is hard to discuss issues about the specs?
08:23:21 bauzas in general, it takes more than one week
08:23:37 bauzas for example, when I review a spec, I provide some comment
08:23:50 bauzas but then the reply could be on the next day
08:24:00 bauzas and then I'd only see it honestly by the end of the week
08:24:23 suzhengwei Is this channel often open to all? I means if i want to get help, would someone react in time?
08:24:41 bauzas suzhengwei: yes, in general, we do it this way
08:24:50 suzhengwei good
08:24:58 bauzas suzhengwei: for example, when I'm reviewing some gibi's spec, I'm pinging him
08:25:04 gibi suzhengwei: it depends on the time zone. like I tend to be here between UTC 7:00 - UTC 17:00 on workdays
08:25:08 bauzas telling him that I had some questions
08:25:25 bauzas so, sometimes we directly discuss on IRC for a spec
08:25:31 suzhengwei cool
08:25:35 bauzas but like gibi said, we're both on the same TZ
08:25:45 bauzas so it's simple
08:26:09 gibi suzhengwei: I keep my client up during the night so I will see pings next day
08:26:14 bauzas me too
08:28:37 XinxinShen cool, We should ensure that the spec author and reviewer can communicate in time.
08:28:46 gibi suzhengwei: if you ping us, one thing to help is not just pinging but stating your problem right away

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