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#openstack-nova - 2021-04-22
12:40:26 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: yes, there's a special connector on the NIC and an add-in card that plugs to a different topology
12:40:26 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: yes, there's a special connector on the NIC and an add-in card that plugs to a different topology
12:40:40 Dmitrii-Sh and the NIC is smart enough to use 2 sets of lanes differently
12:40:40 Dmitrii-Sh and the NIC is smart enough to use 2 sets of lanes differently
12:40:53 sean-k-mooney yep hardware vendors make software enginers look sane
12:40:53 sean-k-mooney yep hardware vendors make software enginers look sane
12:41:06 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: :^D
12:41:06 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: :^D
12:41:29 gibi lol
12:42:00 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: ok, I am aiming to make the design extensible such that those things can be supported but I will avoid focusing on it for the initial proposal then
12:42:00 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: ok, I am aiming to make the design extensible such that those things can be supported but I will avoid focusing on it for the initial proposal then
12:42:11 Dmitrii-Sh it's just very difficult to extend it later as I see it
12:42:11 Dmitrii-Sh it's just very difficult to extend it later as I see it
12:42:28 sean-k-mooney i spent quite a lot of my time at intel dealing with topic like this which is why this seam like a realitvly normal request to me
12:42:28 sean-k-mooney i spent quite a lot of my time at intel dealing with topic like this which is why this seam like a realitvly normal request to me
12:43:06 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: ya i think that multi host nics proably need cyborg to manage well
12:43:06 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: ya i think that multi host nics proably need cyborg to manage well
12:43:09 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: good thing you did, otherwise my requests would look insane
12:43:09 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: good thing you did, otherwise my requests would look insane
12:43:32 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: same as remove nic over a pcie fabric
12:43:32 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: same as remove nic over a pcie fabric
12:44:13 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: we were looking at this problem space when we were looking at how to integrate a rackscale design composeable server with nova
12:44:13 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: we were looking at this problem space when we were looking at how to integrate a rackscale design composeable server with nova
12:45:11 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: basicaly i wanted to allow create a composable physical server form disaggreated devices (nics, storage, gpus, fpga) via a new nova virt driver
12:45:11 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: basicaly i wanted to allow create a composable physical server form disaggreated devices (nics, storage, gpus, fpga) via a new nova virt driver
12:45:49 sean-k-mooney so it would be like creating a vm but with realy hardware using a pcie/rdma based frabric
12:45:49 sean-k-mooney so it would be like creating a vm but with realy hardware using a pcie/rdma based frabric
12:46:46 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: right, I've seen some hw like this with 1U PCIe switches and composable topologies
12:46:46 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: right, I've seen some hw like this with 1U PCIe switches and composable topologies
12:48:43 sean-k-mooney :( we never pushed it publically. i thought it was on https://github.com/intel-orchestration-software but we did boot a node with a poc virt driver internally
12:48:43 sean-k-mooney :( we never pushed it publically. i thought it was on https://github.com/intel-orchestration-software but we did boot a node with a poc virt driver internally
12:50:45 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: I think I came across this (but haven't had this in a lab): https://gigaio.com/products/
12:50:45 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: I think I came across this (but haven't had this in a lab): https://gigaio.com/products/
12:51:18 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: i think we both have a lot to digest. can you add the topic to the end of https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-ptg
12:51:18 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: i think we both have a lot to digest. can you add the topic to the end of https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-ptg
12:51:55 sean-k-mooney as i said if we dont get to it im happy to review and we could set up a call or somehting in a week or too if needed
12:51:55 sean-k-mooney as i said if we dont get to it im happy to review and we could set up a call or somehting in a week or too if needed
12:52:07 sean-k-mooney oh its already there
12:52:07 sean-k-mooney oh its already there
12:52:25 sean-k-mooney Transport Node bp/spec RFC and this topic dont really seam realted to me
12:52:25 sean-k-mooney Transport Node bp/spec RFC and this topic dont really seam realted to me
12:52:34 sean-k-mooney but i see where you were comign form
12:52:34 sean-k-mooney but i see where you were comign form
12:56:33 gibi Dmitrii-Sh: thanks for the well written spec, I forwarded it to my downstream counterparts to see if my company is also interested in solving these use case. I agree with Sean about trying to get to this on the PTG but it might not fit into the timeframe.
12:56:33 gibi Dmitrii-Sh: thanks for the well written spec, I forwarded it to my downstream counterparts to see if my company is also interested in solving these use case. I agree with Sean about trying to get to this on the PTG but it might not fit into the timeframe.
13:01:31 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: the gigaio stuff is unrelated, yes, just sharing what I've seen :^)
13:01:31 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: yes, added it a little earlier to the etherpad
13:01:31 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: the gigaio stuff is unrelated, yes, just sharing what I've seen :^)
13:01:31 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: yes, added it a little earlier to the etherpad
13:02:06 Dmitrii-Sh gibi: thanks a lot, much appreciated
13:02:06 Dmitrii-Sh gibi: thanks a lot, much appreciated
13:02:45 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: im adding a summery of what i think the problem statemnt is and a sumamry of what i was propsing as an alternitve desing.
13:02:45 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: im adding a summery of what i think the problem statemnt is and a sumamry of what i was propsing as an alternitve desing.
13:02:57 sean-k-mooney feel free to extend of correct eitehr
13:02:57 sean-k-mooney feel free to extend of correct eitehr
13:03:14 sean-k-mooney im also addig a link to the irc logs of this conversation if peopel want to review it
13:03:14 sean-k-mooney im also addig a link to the irc logs of this conversation if peopel want to review it
13:06:20 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: hmm, all the colors are gone from the etherpad
13:06:20 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: hmm, all the colors are gone from the etherpad
13:06:25 Dmitrii-Sh at least for me
13:06:25 Dmitrii-Sh at least for me
13:06:34 sean-k-mooney dont press contol shift c
13:06:34 sean-k-mooney dont press contol shift c
13:07:12 sean-k-mooney yep i had the wrong window slected and ctrl-shift-c is apparently clear all colors
13:07:12 sean-k-mooney yep i had the wrong window slected and ctrl-shift-c is apparently clear all colors
13:07:23 sean-k-mooney i contol z it and it dissconnected me
13:07:23 sean-k-mooney i contol z it and it dissconnected me
13:07:39 sean-k-mooney so ya i cant revert it it seams
13:07:39 sean-k-mooney so ya i cant revert it it seams
13:08:13 sean-k-mooney they are here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-ptg/timeslider#24635
13:08:13 sean-k-mooney they are here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-ptg/timeslider#24635
13:10:18 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: right, haven't found a way to revert yet
13:10:18 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: right, haven't found a way to revert yet
13:10:52 sean-k-mooney i think the only way would be contrl z but i dont think that will work now
13:10:52 sean-k-mooney i think the only way would be contrl z but i dont think that will work now
13:11:05 sean-k-mooney which suck but ya
13:11:05 sean-k-mooney which suck but ya
13:11:16 sean-k-mooney im going to add that as a warning to the top of the doc
13:11:16 sean-k-mooney im going to add that as a warning to the top of the doc
13:11:29 sean-k-mooney its a really bad keyboard shortcut to choose
13:11:29 sean-k-mooney its a really bad keyboard shortcut to choose
13:25:05 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: ok im done summerising it. im goingt to go take a walk and clear my head before the ptg resumes. o/
13:25:05 sean-k-mooney Dmitrii-Sh: ok im done summerising it. im goingt to go take a walk and clear my head before the ptg resumes. o/
13:25:50 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: tyvm, I'll have a look in 20-30 mins and adjust if needed
13:25:50 Dmitrii-Sh sean-k-mooney: tyvm, I'll have a look in 20-30 mins and adjust if needed
13:32:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: glance: Improve [glance]enable_rbd_download and associated options help text https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/785656
13:32:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: glance: Improve [glance]enable_rbd_download and associated options help text https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/785656
13:53:02 bauzas * bauzas definitely needs a coffee
13:58:14 stephenfin gibi: Might be a few minutes late. Having internet woes :-(
13:58:14 stephenfin gibi: Might be a few minutes late. Having internet woes :-(
13:58:20 gibi stephenfin: ack
13:58:20 gibi stephenfin: ack
14:07:35 gibi belmoreira: we are talking about emulating guest archs
14:07:35 gibi belmoreira: we are talking about emulating guest archs
14:07:43 gibi in the nova room now
14:07:43 gibi in the nova room now
14:08:47 belmoreira thanks gibi. Unfortunately, I can't join right now (I'm in the TC meeting).
14:08:47 belmoreira thanks gibi. Unfortunately, I can't join right now (I'm in the TC meeting).
14:09:10 gibi belmoreira: OK, I think I'm aware of your viewpoint so I can represent it
14:09:10 gibi belmoreira: OK, I think I'm aware of your viewpoint so I can represent it

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