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#openstack-nova - 2021-03-09
16:55:08 sean-k-mooney i almost never ead release notes outside of git
16:55:36 stephenfin Yeah, figured you would
16:55:43 stephenfin you could do a comment
16:56:24 sean-k-mooney hum i guess i could. whats the yaml comment syntax //
16:56:32 sean-k-mooney it follows c right
16:56:40 stephenfin as I noted, release notes should avoid version information in general since it doesn't make sense for backported fixes. That's not applicable here but in general, it's a good guide
16:56:42 sean-k-mooney i think ill just drop it for now
16:56:55 stephenfin '#' I think, but I'm not sure
16:56:56 sean-k-mooney well this is a feature
16:57:02 sean-k-mooney so it wont be backported but sure
16:57:11 stephenfin yeah, like I said, not applicable here but a good guide
16:57:28 stephenfin just never include version information in the release note and you never need to think about it
16:57:56 sean-k-mooney im not sure i actully agree on the backport thing but i also dont wnat to spend time debating it FF week :)
17:17:25 lyarwood has anyone deployed a local multinode devstack env recently? for some reason I can't curl keystone on the controller from the compute but I can ssh and ping between the hosts just fine
17:18:16 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: likely iptables
17:18:34 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: disabled, as is firewalld
17:18:36 sean-k-mooney do "sudo iptables -F; sudo iptables -X"
17:18:56 lyarwood what the flying
17:18:59 lyarwood ><
17:19:07 lyarwood ggwp systemd
17:19:27 lyarwood the service was dead but for what ever reason systemd didn't flush the rules
17:19:31 sean-k-mooney devstack/neutorn? add some iptable rules directly
17:19:51 sean-k-mooney i used to keep that command in my local.sh
17:19:51 openstackgerrit Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Use improved guest CPU config APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/762330
17:20:00 sean-k-mooney so that devstack would just do it every time i stacked
17:20:07 sean-k-mooney i assume its working now?
17:20:08 lyarwood yeah not a bad idea
17:20:30 lyarwood yeah hopefully just stacking the compute again
17:21:15 sean-k-mooney i never bother to check what exacatly add the iptables ruels athat break it but the fix was simple so i never felt the need
17:28:19 kashyap lyarwood: gibi: The above patch (I resolved conflicts from a rebase) is chunky ... but solves a real live migration problem. In the past it was a blueprint and I wrote some docs in a "spec". But there's a case to be made for it to be an "advanced bug-fix"
17:28:47 kashyap I now need to go out, perhaps I can bring this up on the upstream meeting for discussion
17:31:41 kashyap [That needs to be split up for easier review]
17:32:09 gibi kashyap: ack, I have to look at it tomorrow
18:33:15 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: gibi i am doing some testing of vdpa for different api actions tl;dr i need to block shelve in addtion to livemigrate which was already planned.
18:33:47 sean-k-mooney but the reason i need to block shelve is because the vdpa change shared the same code for shelve as normal neutron vf ports
18:33:54 sean-k-mooney e.g. vnic_type=direct
18:33:58 sean-k-mooney so it also hits https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767797
18:34:00 openstack bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1767797 in openstack-nova "When unshelving an SR-IOV instance, the binding profile isn't reclaimed or rescheduled, and this might cause PCI-PT conflicts" [High,Assigned] - Assigned to alifshit
18:34:40 sean-k-mooney nova is correctly claiming the device in the pci tracker but not updating the neutron port
18:34:47 sean-k-mooney before we regenerate the xml
18:35:21 sean-k-mooney im wondering if i should block shelve for all sriov port types including vdpa,vf and pfs
18:35:32 stephenfin I think that would be wise
18:35:42 sean-k-mooney or even do it in two patches?
18:35:58 sean-k-mooney 1 for the vdpa related things and one for the other sriov port type so that could be backported?
18:36:41 sean-k-mooney if i only have one vm unshelve works fine but its just because it can use the same vf/vdpa device
18:36:50 sean-k-mooney so if we fix that bug it will work
18:37:53 stephenfin Two patches make sense
18:37:59 sean-k-mooney i kind of feel this is like the numa live migration case. it sort of works but fundementally its broken, although this time i think we can backport a fix for unshleve with sriov
18:39:31 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Follow up from bp/pci-socket-affinity series https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779556
18:45:40 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: so it looks like the issue is with focal nodes still using tgtadm, just going to use your cloud to rebuild a multinode env if that's okay
18:46:01 sean-k-mooney ya it shoudl be fine
18:46:16 sean-k-mooney assuming i has free space go for it if not tell me an i can shelve something
18:47:19 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: ah nvm, virt-builder supports focal now
18:47:20 sean-k-mooney ah ya it has about 20-30G of hugepages free
18:47:54 sean-k-mooney well there is space if you want to boot a coulpel of 8G vms you should be able ot spawn 3-4
18:48:56 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: im planning to redpeloy the cloud in a month or two and enable memory over subsciption. curretly everything uses hugepages but for how lightly used the vms are it proably makes snese to not do that
18:56:22 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: fakelibvirt: make kB_mem default not laughable https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779559
18:58:37 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: kk
18:59:09 sean-k-mooney artom: lyarwood since ye appare to be around could ye way in on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778347/4 just trying to get more input before i respin
18:59:51 sean-k-mooney artom: lyarwood basicaly too questions should we use a diffferent name e.g.hw:mem_lock or hw:locked_memoy instead of hw:mlock
19:00:04 sean-k-mooney and should that require hw:mem_page_size to be set
19:00:37 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: I'll look once I've kicked off devstack
19:00:42 sean-k-mooney thanks
19:00:44 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: did you move your jump host again btw?
19:01:28 sean-k-mooney no it should still be dyn.seanmooney.info
19:01:47 sean-k-mooney openstack.seanmooney.info is loadbalanced by cloudflares cdn
19:02:48 lyarwood yeah there we go, I still had openstack.seanmooney.info
19:02:55 lyarwood .ssh/config updated
19:02:59 sean-k-mooney dyn.seanmooney.info seams to be working for me but because of nat i cant really test that properly
19:03:03 sean-k-mooney ah ok
19:04:30 artom sean-k-mooney, I'm obviously missing context here, but do we need that patch at all right now?
19:04:45 sean-k-mooney artom: yep
19:04:46 artom As in, why not continue to add it implicitly when we detect a VDPA device?
19:05:00 artom Sorry, not "continue to add", but just "add implicitly"
19:05:01 sean-k-mooney libvirt does not do it right now
19:05:15 artom Like you're saying we do for SEV and realtime
19:05:18 sean-k-mooney and the way libvirt currently does it is a big problem for us
19:05:23 artom Ah, so Nova doesn't do it, *libvirt* does it
19:05:28 sean-k-mooney yep
19:05:29 artom (For SEV and realtime)
19:05:40 sean-k-mooney for sev and realtime nova does it
19:05:45 sean-k-mooney but that is slightly differnt
19:05:50 artom Tbh, I think having to set an extra spec that you have no choice for is bad UX, no?
19:06:11 artom What's preventing Nova from detecting VDPA devices and adding the required XML?
19:06:20 sean-k-mooney am kind of but we shoudl not be changing the memory we sare using based on a neutorn port
19:06:42 sean-k-mooney artom: tl;dr our current memory tracking is really broken
19:06:44 artom Ah, because not all VDPA devices require it?
19:07:20 sean-k-mooney and vm that vfio(sriov port or pci passthough) vgpu or nvmeof device is being locked in memory by libvirt
19:07:32 sean-k-mooney meaning oversubcript does not work
19:08:07 sean-k-mooney artom: am the simulator does not require it
19:08:20 sean-k-mooney artom: its not clear if dpdk based vdpa devices would
19:09:36 sean-k-mooney so i dont know maybe we could auto add it
19:11:12 artom You're saying "let's not change the memory based on Neutron port", except libvirt kinda does that already for vGPU, to use your own example
19:11:19 sean-k-mooney my conern right now is to track locked memory proertly we might need severly restrict what type of vms can use neutron sriov port or passthough of pci or vgpus deivces
19:11:39 sean-k-mooney artom: well it does it for neutron VF ports
19:11:58 sean-k-mooney so we are already inadvertely doing it based on ports
19:12:11 artom Yeah
19:12:24 sean-k-mooney well libvirt is
19:12:29 artom UX-wise, if something needs doing regardless, we should be asking the user to do it for us
19:12:54 artom The fact that our memory tracking is broken is a tangential problem :P

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