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#openstack-nova - 2020-10-26
09:04:40 bauzas :p
09:05:30 bauzas at least the coffee is good :p
09:05:39 gibi it was raining the whole weekend here and the TZ change hit here too. Our governent now tries not to do anyithing about the virus, so even though the numbers are raising rapidly nobody talks about lockdown
09:07:00 bauzas gibi: nw, I was joking ;-)
09:07:27 gibi it could be worse :)
09:07:50 bauzas indeed ;)
09:08:13 kashyap gibi: Yeah, wholesale lockdown is complex :-(
09:09:29 kashyap gibi: One the one side, it is effective at controlling the spread of virus; on the other, complete sectors of economies become a train wreck that is Jupiter-sized
09:09:51 openstackgerrit Wenping Song proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support vGPU management by Cyborg https://review.opendev.org/750116
09:13:42 gibi kashyap: we had a controlled lockdown during spring, we have nothing right now (exepct some lukewarm rule about masks). I'm not an economist but I imagine there is a lot of possible actions between full lockdown and nothing
09:14:36 kashyap gibi: Yeah, I hear you; controlled lockdown makes sense.
09:14:41 gibi e.g. we had controlled timeslots for groceries during sping.
09:14:47 gibi spring
09:15:10 frickler bauzas: gibi: do you have a bug report already for the eventlet update issue (https://review.opendev.org/759506)? seeing this coming up in multiple channels now because it seems to break almost everyone
09:15:14 kashyap (Full lockdown is also a "policital suicide")
09:16:20 gibi frickler: I was on PTO on Friday I need to look back what happened there
09:16:37 gibi kashyap: I agree on the full lockdown thing
09:17:27 kashyap gibi: Right now, here in Belgium is a "controlled lockdown" - all cafes/bars/restaurants closed for a month; no going out from midnight to 05:00 AM (it's even stricter in Brussels); etc.
09:18:09 gibi frickler: we have https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:dnm-eventlet-revert+(status:open+OR+status:merged) but I don't see a bugreport
09:18:57 openstackgerrit Wenping Song proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support vGPU management by Cyborg https://review.opendev.org/750116
09:19:12 gibi kashyap: that sounsd something I can welcome here too. We have football games with full house here, crazy
09:19:58 openstack Launchpad bug 1901383 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-compute fails with "TypeError: Parameterized generics cannot be used with class" with python 3.6 and libvirt-python 6.8.0" [Critical,New]
09:19:58 gibi frickler: is this the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1901383
09:20:39 kashyap gibi: Oh dear ... that "full house" part sounds like a petri dish to let the virus "flourish"
09:22:02 frickler gibi: yes, except it doesn't seem to be related to either py36 nor libvirt, but eventlet, as the jobs are passing with the cap melwitt made
09:25:13 gibi frickler: do you mean https://review.opendev.org/#/c/759552 as the cap? this caps libvirt-python
09:29:37 bauzas frickler: I thought melwitt reported the problem
09:30:04 lyarwood FWIW I'm rasing the libvirt-python issue with danpb downstream now
09:30:05 frickler gibi: oh, indeed, I didn't notice there was a new version
09:30:24 openstack Launchpad bug 1901383 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-compute fails with "TypeError: Parameterized generics cannot be used with class" with python 3.6 and libvirt-python 6.8.0" [Critical,New]
09:30:24 bauzas frickler: gibi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1901383
09:30:33 lyarwood we might want to land the revert anyway while we get a bug filed against libvirt-python etc
09:30:38 bauzas oh man, I'm burned by gibi
09:32:25 kashyap Yeah, perhaps copy/pasting (with credit) what Mel wrote in here - https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt-python/-/issues
09:57:48 gibi lyarwood: I agree
10:29:13 lyarwood gibi: any objections if I pushed an updated PS for the revert?
10:29:38 bauzas lyarwood: I'm also good with
10:29:56 lyarwood ack, lets do that then
10:32:10 lyarwood gibi / bauzas ; okay done - https://review.opendev.org/759552
10:32:29 lyarwood melwitt: ^ btw once you're online, we are going to push ahead with the revert to unblock the gate
10:33:56 bauzas lyarwood: also, we should make sure that libvirt-python==6.8.0 shouldn't be used in nova
10:34:30 lyarwood bauzas: it's not
10:34:44 lyarwood bauzas: oh wait, you mean an actual startup check?
10:35:00 bauzas no
10:35:10 lyarwood bauzas: ah just a requirements check
10:35:12 bauzas actually https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/requirements.txt
10:35:15 lyarwood yeah
10:35:26 lyarwood hmm well
10:35:29 lyarwood the issue there is
10:35:34 bauzas something like libvirt-python!=6.8.0
10:35:37 lyarwood that not all drivers actually need it
10:35:47 lyarwood so I'm not sure that we can put it in our requirements
10:35:56 bauzas well
10:36:08 bauzas sure, but then all the drivers wouldn't need 6.8.0, right?
10:36:37 lyarwood right so that's why it's in upper-constraints.txt
10:36:51 bauzas mmmm, ok
10:37:05 bauzas but then once we get 6.8.1 ?
10:37:26 lyarwood yeah I'm not sure if we can add !=6.8.0 in uc
10:37:36 lyarwood but I'd assume that would live somewhere in the requirements repo
10:38:03 lyarwood or we just move lc to 6.8.1
10:38:09 lyarwood but that smells wrong
10:49:31 bauzas lyarwood: I was thinking on the nova req.txt file for not accepting 6.8.0
10:50:09 bauzas something like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/requirements.txt#L41
11:00:11 lyarwood bauzas: yeah, I note pypowervm is actually listed there so I wonder if we can get away with virt driver specific things in there
11:10:59 bauzas ah I see your point, you'd be afraid of having libvirt releases to be in the reqs file as it's not needed for all
11:11:06 bauzas then it's a good point
11:11:15 bauzas I dunno what to say honestly
12:56:41 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: if you have some seconds, can you see my last comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741529/
14:05:06 openstack Launchpad bug 1815989 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "OVS drops RARP packets by QEMU upon live-migration causes up to 40s ping pause in Rocky" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney)
14:05:06 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: and new comment in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1815989
14:17:50 sean-k-mooney im replying now
14:18:18 sean-k-mooney neutron is shoudl have finished wiring up the port before sending network-vif-plugged
14:18:32 sean-k-mooney waiting for the port binding to be activiated is not correct.
14:18:45 sean-k-mooney well partly
14:18:56 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: are you usuing post-copy
14:19:27 sean-k-mooney there is some ambiguity in the spec if the prot should be active before the port binding is active or not
14:20:12 sean-k-mooney but the semantics of network-vif-plugged is when its sent the vm shoudl have full network connectivity
14:21:39 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: that race is a differnt race by the way so we should not use the same bug to track it
14:32:43 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: after looking through the nova notifier in neutron, the port updates is subscribing to the BEFORE_RESPONSE event, so i assume that the event is sent before neutron-server sends the action out to the agents
14:32:54 tobias-urdin so it's not really send when the agents are done binding the port
14:33:25 tobias-urdin but i assume that's only when the port goes to active state, but not really is up by the agents
14:34:16 tobias-urdin the reason it works better for instance spawns is because a spawn of a instance takes some seconds, checking there is not really any neutron events that can be sent out when an agents is done with a port, that's what we would like
14:34:44 tobias-urdin https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron/src/branch/master/neutron/notifiers/nova.py#L102
14:34:52 tobias-urdin https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron/src/branch/master/neutron/pecan_wsgi/hooks/notifier.py#L101
14:38:07 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: the port shoudl have alreay been active
14:38:16 sean-k-mooney the port is in the active state on the souce host
14:38:28 sean-k-mooney so it a little ambigiuos
14:38:44 sean-k-mooney prior to rocky neutron would have considered it active
14:39:13 sean-k-mooney with the multipe port bidnign workflow we prebinding the port on the dest but that binding is not active
14:39:54 sean-k-mooney until post live migrate
14:40:41 sean-k-mooney we are expecting that the link state on the interface should be up but you could argue that it shold not be up until the binding is active
14:40:48 sean-k-mooney we disucssed that in the spec
14:40:56 sean-k-mooney ill have to compare to what we agreed
14:41:16 dansmith gibi: you were +2 on this initially, can you +W now that I've addressed the feedback? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756534/
14:46:03 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: that means the race is there, so the better way would be that neutron notifiers nova when the port is done on the destination node (i.e the neutron agent has fixed the port and it's ready for use)
14:46:30 tobias-urdin i can provide more debug information from the neutron ovs agent details if you want, i.e more lines than i posted in the launchpad bug
14:46:35 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: to be clear this is a seperate issue form the bug your commeting on
14:47:05 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: yeah, i understand that now, hence we will be running the patch is linked as a workaround for now
14:47:06 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: there is an implcit race in this logic by desgin
14:47:10 tobias-urdin or do you think there is a better workaround?

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