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#openstack-nova - 2020-09-18
08:45:19 bauzas those two concerns aren't interrelated
08:45:44 bauzas (AFAICT)
08:46:00 lyarwood right, we did however say that we would bump the min versions in V
08:46:08 lyarwood and that we would also move the next versions in V
08:46:46 lyarwood gibi: correct we don't need to change the min to move to focal
08:46:49 bauzas bumping minimums is somehow understandable
08:47:03 bauzas more than us moving to Focal, tbh
08:47:11 openstackgerrit Liang Fang proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] rbd patch for volume local cache https://review.opendev.org/726762
08:47:28 bauzas anyway, I want us to stop focusing on distros, and rather be discussing on QEMU versions
08:47:28 stephenfin I personally class the bumping of minimums more important and less risky than the focal move
08:47:32 lyarwood tbh I'd personally drop the entire move to focal at this point
08:47:34 stephenfin oh, jinx :)
08:47:44 lyarwood \o/
08:48:03 gibi droping Focal needs to be agreed with the TC
08:48:12 bauzas stephenfin: yeah I'm kinda leading to this conclusion
08:48:24 lyarwood I'm amazed that we continued with it after M2 tbh
08:48:31 lyarwood move early or don't move at all
08:48:36 stephenfin apologies if this was discussed yesterday, but couldn't we have a single non-voting tempest job on Focal?
08:48:50 bauzas gibi: I don't understand why the OpenStack community makes an hard sell on a OS thing
08:48:59 stephenfin to satisfy that request
08:49:11 bauzas I thought we only considered dependencies and not OSes
08:49:13 lyarwood yeah but I get the feeling that gmann's changes are to the base jobs
08:49:15 bauzas to be frank
08:49:23 lyarwood we could overwrite the node labels in our tree however
08:49:25 gibi bauzas: me neither but I think to make the communication clear we have to be on the same side with the TC
08:49:37 bauzas okay, let's be pragmatic
08:50:08 bauzas the problem is with a specific QEMU version that races on volume attach/detach, right?
08:50:13 stephenfin ah, you mean the parent 'openstack-*' and 'legacy-*' jobs?
08:50:25 bauzas and past this version, QEMU isn't fixed yet
08:50:30 bauzas am i correct?
08:50:54 lyarwood stephenfin: yeah
08:51:04 bauzas so, we can legitamately bump the minimums without being impacted by the QEMU issue
08:51:11 bauzas legitimatly
08:51:14 lyarwood bauzas: that's the issue with focal and the ussuri UCA yes
08:51:41 lyarwood bauzas: but we can only bump the mins *if* we use the train UCA, ussuri UCA or move to focal
08:51:42 bauzas lyarwood: because the ussuri UCA ships a qemu version that's impacted, right?
08:51:55 lyarwood bauzas: correct it's the same versions as shipped in focal
08:52:08 lyarwood bauzas: with the train UCA being a little older and not impacted by the bug
08:52:11 bauzas ok, so the problem is with UCA, not the distro
08:52:26 lyarwood bauzas: well both, it's in the core distro from focal
08:52:32 bauzas ah I see
08:52:39 bauzas gotcha
08:52:41 bauzas so
08:52:49 bauzas I'm all documenting this
08:53:07 gibi buming minimum means we change the libvirt version on stable/ussuri too
08:53:13 gibi is it OK?
08:53:18 bauzas gibi: why ?
08:53:22 gibi did we do that before in other stable branches?
08:53:30 lyarwood gibi: yeah we've done that in the past
08:53:42 stephenfin I guess we'll change the version tested if we backport, yes. We won't change the versions allowed though
08:53:43 lyarwood bauzas: grenade
08:53:45 gibi lyarwood: so it is sort of a normal thing at a min bump?
08:53:48 brinzhang_ gibi: IMO, in V release is enough
08:54:03 lyarwood gibi: iirc the last time we did this was due to QEMU/libvirt bugs
08:54:16 bauzas lyarwood: what?
08:54:24 lyarwood gibi: so we enabled the UCA to workaround these and had to do it on an older stable release for grenade as well
08:54:31 bauzas lyarwood: I thought grenade was upgrading on the target
08:54:42 brinzhang_ Cyborg done this today https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cyborg+branch:master+topic:migrate-to-focal
08:54:43 lyarwood bauzas: it does but it doesn't rerun devstack
08:54:54 brinzhang_ bump to the min version
08:55:06 lyarwood bauzas: so we'd need to use the train UCA on stable/ussuri to ensure n-cpu from master would work
08:55:23 lyarwood stephenfin: correct, it's just the tested version in stable/ussuri being changed
08:55:42 lyarwood and again I don't think anyone is using the min versions of libvirt and QEMU at the moment
08:56:06 lyarwood if you're using Ubuntu you're using the UCAs
08:56:20 lyarwood if you're using el distro you;re already way past these versions on stable/ussuri
08:56:56 bauzas ok, either way
08:57:04 bauzas if we merge the bumps
08:57:28 bauzas are we sure that the new minimums are satisfied by the train UCA ?
08:57:40 bauzas because
08:57:50 bauzas we could just don't care about train UCA
08:57:59 lyarwood bauzas: yes see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746981/
08:58:12 bauzas but if we would like to tackle the other issue, we would need to deploy a Bionic with Train UCA
08:58:23 lyarwood bauzas: specifically https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/318b52b1aaf6473787405c9ed1ca0bc0/log/controller/logs/dpkg-l.txt
08:58:30 bauzas perfect, then I'm clear
08:58:37 lyarwood bauzas: that change Depends-On the devstack change pulling in the train UCA
08:58:50 lyarwood bauzas: all of the non grenade jobs are working
08:58:59 gibi OK, so it is not unprecedentet to change the tested libvirt version on a stable branch
08:59:00 bauzas okay, so I personnally feel that bumping minimums are reasonably safe
08:59:02 gibi so lets do it then
08:59:09 bauzas +1
08:59:16 gibi bump the minimum and turn on train UCA in stable/ussuri
08:59:40 bauzas and let's do what we approved yesterday for the Focal thing
08:59:51 bauzas the gmann's work on jobs
09:00:08 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.moves https://review.opendev.org/727224
09:00:21 bauzas lyarwood: sean-k-mooney: that being said, we need to document the gap
09:00:47 openstack Launchpad bug 1882521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failing device detachments on Focal" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood)
09:00:47 bauzas I guess we can use https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1882521 as a base start
09:01:11 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.iteritems/itervalues/iterkeys https://review.opendev.org/727757
09:01:12 gibi bauzas: could you drop the -2 from https://review.opendev.org/#/c/749707 then?
09:01:22 bauzas gibi: I was on it
09:01:25 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.byte2int/int2byte https://review.opendev.org/727777
09:01:27 gibi coolio
09:01:28 lyarwood ubuntu-- https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/fc4fd2d6fcd14618899060c4e84edca0/log/job-output.txt#6579 one small thing to fix here for the evacuation tests also
09:01:44 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.binary_type/integer_types/string_types https://review.opendev.org/728094
09:01:52 lyarwood bauzas: and you mean outside of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746981/6/releasenotes/notes/victoria-libvirt-version-bump-e1a09b3a72ee56a4.yaml
09:01:58 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.text_type (1/2) https://review.opendev.org/728109
09:02:24 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: Remove six.text_type (2/2) https://review.opendev.org/728117
09:02:59 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: doc: correct the link to user/flavor.rst https://review.opendev.org/740176
09:03:09 bauzas lyarwood: no, it's a matter of communicating the caveat we found with Focal
09:03:16 openstackgerrit Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Fix rendering in the accelerator support doc https://review.opendev.org/751574

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