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#openstack-nova - 2020-08-06
10:02:40 stephenfin I could, though the change ID allows you to click through to the original change
10:03:52 kashyap Yeah, I see the value; but recall: we also have to bear in mind the "guy working from the woods" w/ no internet connection :-) - all needed info present w/ no clicking required
10:05:33 kashyap I'd personally put it in the commit body. But I let you decide here.
10:19:37 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: they are on the same topic so at least in gerrit its easy to find
10:20:30 sean-k-mooney oh you are folding back in the funcion
10:20:36 sean-k-mooney ya makes sense
10:27:18 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: by the way you realise that mypy support ducktyping
10:27:50 stephenfin I do. What's the context?
10:28:09 sean-k-mooney your responce to melwitt about not using mypy in tests
10:28:22 sean-k-mooney so ducktyping would not be an issue
10:28:27 sean-k-mooney mock proably would be
10:28:46 stephenfin It would if the code expects a Instance object and we're passing a dict or a string
10:28:50 sean-k-mooney but if we create a local class and implement the same interface it would pass
10:28:52 stephenfin which we do in placement
10:28:54 stephenfin *places
10:29:11 stephenfin Possibly, but that would be so much work
10:29:20 sean-k-mooney i know
10:29:41 sean-k-mooney i just mean if the thing we pass ducktypes to the real thing it will pass
10:29:55 sean-k-mooney if it does not we proably should not be passing it now :)
10:30:37 sean-k-mooney im hoping we ill graduly stop passing incorrect types in tests
10:30:56 sean-k-mooney im not going to hold my breath but i can hope
10:33:15 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Lookup nic feature by PCI address https://review.opendev.org/739131
10:33:27 sean-k-mooney :)
10:44:15 mlycka Hello, would anyone be kind enough to advise me on how one would go about getting a freeze exception for a spec?
10:46:00 gibi mlycka: what is the spec in question?
10:46:23 gibi mlycka: in general we will make decisions about spec freeze exception request on the today's nova meeting
10:46:29 mlycka gibi: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702810/
10:46:55 mlycka I was told by a Mr. Yarwood to go ahead and ask for an exception
10:48:18 lyarwood \o ./me waves
10:48:31 sean-k-mooney mlycka: johnthetubaguy still had some concerns about why we are now taking a different approch then was previously apporved
10:48:58 gibi mlycka, lyarwood: does the sync - async problem was resolved in the spec?
10:50:25 mlycka gibi: I think the idea was to treat is as sync for now and see where that gets us. The spec allows for a change later on during implementation.
10:51:35 gibi mlycka: I will add it to the meeting agenda. but we would need johnthetubaguy and Groka to check your answers to their questions as now we have -1s on the patch
10:52:11 mlycka gibi: Right right, thank you. Should I contact them directly or are they likely to be present in the meeting?
10:52:38 lyarwood mlycka: well the os-server-external-events API that you're using is async so I don't see how this could ever be sync tbh
10:52:55 sean-k-mooney that api is not for enduser to invoke
10:53:01 sean-k-mooney its for other services
10:53:15 lyarwood and that's also a valid point that I missed
10:53:20 gibi mlycka: given that it is summer I don't think they will get back to the spec today or tomorrow
10:53:21 mlycka Yeah, I think a separate endpoint is probably the way to go.
10:53:43 sean-k-mooney mlycka: quiesing a vm shoudl be a server action
10:53:59 sean-k-mooney as would undoing it
10:54:08 sean-k-mooney like pause and unpause
10:54:24 mlycka sean-k-mooney: What do you mean? Yeah, it would have to be done by the VM.
10:54:42 sean-k-mooney https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#servers-run-an-action-servers-action
10:55:13 sean-k-mooney i mean you should be extending /servers/{server_id}/action
10:57:05 mlycka Okay, that doesn't sound unreasonable. Any objections?
10:57:32 sean-k-mooney i object to you using the event api :) but other then that no :)
10:58:58 mlycka Sure, makes sense. I won't have the time change the spec today, but I should be able to get to it tomorrow
10:59:58 lyarwood mlycka: would you also be able to start posting code for this?
11:00:25 mlycka lyarwood: I mean, not tomorrow but yeah, by next week I could start producing code.
11:00:35 lyarwood kk
11:03:13 sean-k-mooney mlycka: by the way the fact you used the service only external events api is proably why peopel assume this is only for use with cinder
11:04:01 mlycka sean-k-mooney: Might be. I think I misunderstood the use of that endpoint when I first found out about it.
11:04:27 sean-k-mooney ya that is why we have the warning https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=add-associate-floating-ip-addfloatingip-action-deprecated-detail#create-external-events-os-server-external-events
11:05:34 mlycka Yep yep, clearly a reading comprehension failure on my part.
11:21:43 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: support pyroute2 0.5.13 https://review.opendev.org/744809
11:24:42 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova stable/train: catch libvirt exception when nodedev not found. https://review.opendev.org/745116
12:35:43 artom Dammit, we never updated the emulator thread policy flavor extra spec docs following the CPU resources patches: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/ussuri/user/flavors.html
12:36:05 artom (Scroll down to Emulator threads policy)
12:36:26 sean-k-mooney artom: well its still technically correct
12:36:37 sean-k-mooney artom: it just does not mention that the second half is only true
12:36:43 sean-k-mooney if you use vcpu_pin_set
12:36:43 artom Only if cpu_dedicated_set isn't also set
12:36:53 sean-k-mooney correct
12:37:15 artom And what's the point of documenting the old legacy behavior
12:37:21 sean-k-mooney vcpu_pin_set is deprecated not removed and we default to the legacy behavior
12:37:31 artom I suppose
12:37:42 artom Still, stuff is definitely missing
12:37:55 sean-k-mooney stephen can update it when he removes vcpu_pin_set in a few weeks
12:38:49 sean-k-mooney i guess you could update them to make it clear for train and ussuri before that
12:39:12 sean-k-mooney but its not going to be very useful on master since it wont matter when victoria is released
12:43:06 artom True
12:43:47 sean-k-mooney i guess you could look at it as motivation
12:43:57 sean-k-mooney if you want to impove it better do it quick before its gone
12:46:02 artom I need waaaay stronger motivation than that :P
12:46:21 artom Improving something only for it to disappear is not motivating :)
12:46:45 artom I realize that taken to the extreme I've just endorsed nihilism, but...
12:50:39 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: remove deprecated schduler filters https://review.opendev.org/744800
13:10:48 lyarwood can I just edit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova with agenda items for todays meeting?
13:14:11 stephenfin lyarwood: yup
13:15:12 lyarwood stephenfin: cool done thanks
13:37:00 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: compute: As cellsv1 is no more fold _detach_volume back into detach_volume https://review.opendev.org/731506
13:43:26 artom stephenfin, we're not proposing bauzas's routed networks scheduling spec for exception?
13:43:45 sean-k-mooney i would have expected bauzas to do that
13:44:05 artom PTO
13:44:18 sean-k-mooney oh then yes we should
13:44:35 sean-k-mooney he was hoping that gibi would readd his +2 on monday
13:44:43 sean-k-mooney i think
13:45:17 artom I don't recall anyone except stephenfin being +2
13:45:19 kashyap lyarwood: Hey, do you remember: when you cold-migrate an instance, will it in the end do a 'rebuild' on the destination? (/me goes to check the code)
13:45:27 gibi sean-k-mooney: ohh, I missed that
13:45:33 sean-k-mooney artom: gibi was +2 on v4
13:46:11 sean-k-mooney gibi: we were ment to ping you to remind you, bauzas asked us too since he is on PTO
13:46:45 sean-k-mooney i mean we can still request an exception it technically needs one
13:46:50 gibi I will check it shortly and if I'm OK with it then I will ask for an exception on the todays meeting
13:55:16 lyarwood kashyap: resize
13:55:46 lyarwood kashyap: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/9ecefeb836964c52a5a2969b15c82b11c51d32ab/nova/api/openstack/compute/migrate_server.py#L76-L77
13:57:58 artom lyarwood, could you revisit https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729763/11 when you get a chance? I didn't actually address any of your feedback, but hopefully my reasons make sense to you
13:58:10 artom stephenfin, ^^ same request, though I did fix the nit

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