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#openstack-nova - 2020-06-10
15:39:01 stephenfin yup, all fair points
15:39:09 stephenfin it'd just be nice have the optional, is all
15:39:15 stephenfin *the option
15:53:30 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try to make a glance multistore job https://review.opendev.org/734184
16:13:21 openstackgerrit Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/nova master: Add ability to download Glance images into the libvirt image cache via RBD https://review.opendev.org/574301
16:16:14 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: your cherry-picked from lines are wrong in this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728057/
16:19:18 sean-k-mooney they may be yes
16:19:24 sean-k-mooney i did it via the gerrit ui
16:23:16 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Silence amqp heartbeat warning https://review.opendev.org/728057
16:23:52 mandre hi, quick question regarding the hw_scsi_model and hw_disk_bus glance image annotations. Did nova always had support for them? and if we specify a virt driver that the hypervison doesn't support, does it fallback to the default driver?
16:24:05 mandre Context is, I'm wondering if it's safe to set the hw_scsi_model=virtio-scsi and hw_disk_bus=scsi annotations for my images, not knowing what the environment will be.
16:25:26 sean-k-mooney mandre: yes well for several years
16:25:37 sean-k-mooney it predates icehouse
16:26:09 sean-k-mooney mandre: technically you could detect it via the glance metadta api
16:26:25 sean-k-mooney but if the could cupport nova v2 api it also support them
16:26:43 sean-k-mooney mandre the issue is that the values are virt driver dependnet
16:27:00 sean-k-mooney so if you dont know what hyperviror your cloud is using you don tknow what value are vaild
16:27:24 sean-k-mooney if you know that its libvirt then those values will work
16:27:33 mandre cool, so that answers the first part of the question, we're not deploying on anything that is older that queens I think
16:28:26 sean-k-mooney as of ussuri maybe train we also report the support models to placment as traits
16:28:52 sean-k-mooney just an fyi but plamcnet is an admin only api normally so that may or may not be helpful to you
16:29:38 mandre right, we won't be able to use placement because we need to deploy as tenant
16:31:30 sean-k-mooney ya so if you know its libvirt then as i siad those values will work
16:31:37 mandre is there a way to progmatically discover the hypervisor as a tenant?
16:31:44 sean-k-mooney no
16:31:48 sean-k-mooney and that is intentional
16:31:52 sean-k-mooney as an admin yes
16:31:58 sean-k-mooney via the hyperviors api
16:32:15 mandre fair enough, just checking :)
16:32:35 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: libvirt: avoid cpu check at s390x arch https://review.opendev.org/701526
16:33:00 sean-k-mooney mandre: you can boot a vm and then you can kind fo tell form inside the vm
16:34:29 mandre so if I set a driver via hw_scsi_model that the hypervisor doesn't support, it won't be able to boot the VM? or is there a fallback mechanism?
16:34:53 sean-k-mooney if you set it and its not supported it wont boot
16:35:02 sean-k-mooney because we could not fullfile your request
16:35:22 mandre OK
16:37:03 sean-k-mooney mandre: if you boot a vm with a default image and run lscpi like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/794593/
16:37:19 sean-k-mooney and you see 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Red Hat, Inc. QEMU PCIe Root port for example
16:37:36 sean-k-mooney you basically know it either libvirt/kvm or xen
16:37:42 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Create instance action when burying in cell0 https://review.opendev.org/729531
16:38:03 sean-k-mooney you can also infer the hypervior in other ways
16:39:27 mandre sean-k-mooney: thanks for the help
16:39:51 sean-k-mooney hyperv and vmware all have similr things you can look for
16:40:08 sean-k-mooney if you run lspci on hyperv for example it will almsot be empty
16:40:26 sean-k-mooney there nics and disk dont show up as pci device in the normal way
16:40:47 sean-k-mooney in vmware the nic model will be a special vmware one by defualt at least
16:41:25 sean-k-mooney mandre: so if you are enruling you applcaiton on a generic cloud that is one way to figure it out.
16:42:05 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Add admin doc information about image cache resource accounting https://review.opendev.org/732542
16:45:17 mandre sean-k-mooney: IIUC as a tenant there is no other way than spinning a VM to guess the hypervisor, so we may refrain from adding the image annotations since we won't know the environment in advance
16:46:19 sean-k-mooney well we are discussing worlad onboarding or VNF onboaridng right
16:46:34 sean-k-mooney i assume you are a vendor of a product that runs or can run on openstack
16:47:11 sean-k-mooney if so you have a few options the first is to document your miniurm and recommended setting when onboarnidng your applcation
16:47:26 sean-k-mooney if you atomate that you can add a config or do auto detection
16:48:32 sean-k-mooney but its likely that you will have implcit depenencies in your applcation that will only work on some hypervieors so targeting 1 or a limites set will roably be requried jsut from a vlaidation perspective
16:48:49 sean-k-mooney most openstack cloud usei libvirt/kvm
16:49:02 sean-k-mooney and all that use libvirt/kvm will support those options
16:49:43 sean-k-mooney if you plan to also support vmware, powervm or hyperv then you have to explore one of the other options
16:49:44 mandre ok, that's good info.
16:49:53 sean-k-mooney e.g. confg or docs
16:52:25 mandre this is for the openshift installer on openstack platforms, so there's a good chance the hypervisor will be libvirt/kvm. If using vmware or hyperv, it's likely they'll deploy directly on vsphere or azure.
17:16:57 openstack bug 1881455 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "migrate server reporting list index out of bound" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1881455 - Assigned to Stephen Finucane (stephenfinucane)
17:16:57 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add reproducer for bug #1881455 https://review.opendev.org/733667
17:17:14 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Use 'Exception.__traceback__' for versioned notifications https://review.opendev.org/733668
17:17:23 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: libvirt: Don't delete disks on shared storage during evacuate https://review.opendev.org/731248
17:17:27 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Remove 'test_cold_migrate_with_physnet_fails' test https://review.opendev.org/703115
17:17:28 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Block rebuild when NUMA topology changed https://review.opendev.org/703116
17:17:29 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: FUP for in-place numa rebuild https://review.opendev.org/703118
17:17:29 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Disable NUMATopologyFilter on rebuild https://review.opendev.org/703117
17:24:43 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: addressed some nits from elod on that btw ^ Figure we still want it to land
17:27:58 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unnecessary retrieval of Migration object https://review.opendev.org/730351
17:27:59 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unused function parameters https://review.opendev.org/730352
17:41:51 elod thanks stephenfin for the many stable reviews and patch updates :)
17:42:04 stephenfin np :)
18:45:20 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: compute: Allow snapshots to be created from PAUSED volume backed instances https://review.opendev.org/729174
18:45:26 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Remove stale nested backport from InstancePCIRequests https://review.opendev.org/725931
#openstack-nova - 2020-06-11
02:46:54 openstackgerrit sunhao proposed openstack/nova master: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding https://review.opendev.org/734734
04:44:02 openstackgerrit sunhao proposed openstack/nova master: Add checks for volume status when rebuilding https://review.opendev.org/734734
06:22:13 frickler sean-k-mooney: implemented a first draft of your idea regarding pip3 in https://review.opendev.org/735058 , tested only on focal so far, waiting for test results on other distros. ideally all of them would no longer need this whole manual installation thing anymore
07:18:59 openstackgerrit Harshavardhan Metla proposed openstack/nova master: Raising a failure in case of 403 https://review.opendev.org/735068
07:25:02 openstackgerrit Marek Lyčka proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Enable REST quiescing https://review.opendev.org/702810
08:18:36 openstackgerrit Marek Lyčka proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Enable REST quiescing https://review.opendev.org/702810
08:56:20 openstackgerrit Alexandre Arents proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Reserve DISK_GB resource for the image cache https://review.opendev.org/732529
09:08:54 bauzas late morning hello world
09:09:07 bauzas was on teaching mode for my kid...
09:17:48 gibi bauzas: o/
09:18:07 bauzas specs writing and reviewing day FTW (hopefully)
09:18:17 bauzas gibi: if you have some of them you want me to look...
09:18:38 bauzas gibi: btw. tomorrow will be a Red Hat worlwide PTO
09:18:53 bauzas gibi: so you won't see all of us I think
09:19:00 gibi bauzas: I looket throught the open specs, the list is short so I suggest to look there too
09:19:07 bauzas kk
09:19:15 gibi bauzas: thanks for the heads up. Have a nice PTO tomorrow
09:19:43 bauzas it's actually a company holiday
09:19:52 gibi interesting concept
09:20:05 gibi do you have company events on this day or it is simply a day off
09:20:07 gibi ?
09:29:00 bauzas gibi: my company calls it 'Recharge Day'
09:29:30 bauzas gibi: US folks had company holidays called 'shutdown' between Xmas and New Year
09:30:01 bauzas now it's a bit changing for sales reasons, so they created 'Recharge days'
09:30:14 bauzas and for the first time, they offered recharge days
09:30:46 bauzas for this quarter, the first holiday will be tomorrow but we'll have a Q3 and Q4 holiday too

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