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#openstack-nova - 2020-06-03
13:41:00 dansmith gibi: on a different computer :/
13:41:12 gibi :/
13:49:13 bauzas gosh, I'm seeing double now
13:52:17 kashyap For me audio is completely lost; /me just joined shortly...
13:52:41 kashyap Joinied via Linux Zoom app. (Yes, yes, I tried the "Windows solution" - turned it off and turned it back on)
13:53:35 kashyap Ah, fixed
13:56:13 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Are we talking about default machine type change?
14:08:00 dansmith For anyone that was suffering the same thing as me,
14:08:35 dansmith the only way I was able to get zoom to not hang on connect is to start zoom itself, grab the meeting ID out of the link, and join the conference by id instead of the automatic linky thing
14:08:53 dansmith on my other machine just clicking the link works fine, so I dunno if it's a browser thing or a zoom thing or what
14:09:25 sean-k-mooney dansmith: are you using firefox or chome
14:09:34 sean-k-mooney chrome seam to be working better for people
14:09:45 dansmith chrome (of course) and I've never had this problem with zoom until today
14:09:52 sean-k-mooney that said i clinked the screen share button just now and it hard locked
14:10:18 sean-k-mooney is there a way to get the tile view of multiple people by the way
14:10:45 sean-k-mooney its nice to be able to see people to see queue of if they are trying to speak so i dont speak over people
14:12:03 sean-k-mooney if that is only in the app i might download the flatpack or snap assuming there is one
14:12:40 mordred artom: left a comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/733151 - thanks for working on that!
14:12:43 gibi sean-k-mooney: there is gallery view in the app (linux)
14:14:53 artom mordred, that was super quick, thank you!
14:15:31 artom mordred, so I'm just starting to audit the pre-2.72 stuff (that's where gtema said you stopped) in sdk and catching it up with WIP patches where I can
14:15:44 mordred artom: cool
14:16:22 sean-k-mooney gibi: yep that is what i was looking for
14:17:46 gibi sean-k-mooney: I'm usign the deb package from the zoom webpage
14:18:48 sean-k-mooney ya i might try that just installed the flatpak
14:18:55 sean-k-mooney if it does not work ill grab the deb
14:23:46 sean-k-mooney hehe yes i can definetly typo lots of stuff
14:29:07 rouk sean-k-mooney I narrowed down that metadata issue, it gets fixed when I point nova-api to nova db instead of nova_cell0, it's not selecting the cell for some reason in a single cell deployment (which has 2 now, cause cell0 is mandatory), where does the cell db get selected? Everything else seemed to go to the right place, but block_device_mapping reads are going to a different db than writes.
14:32:08 sean-k-mooney ok so the block device info is only in the cell db not the api db
14:37:13 rouk So... What's the fix? Is it broken? Am I using it wrong?
14:38:06 sean-k-mooney sorry im currently in the nova call. but ill try and take a look when its done
14:39:56 rouk Yeah sure thing, for now I have nova-api configured to use the nova db, instead of nova_cell0, which "fixes" the issue for now. But maybe that breaks other things I'm not aware of. It's just a dev location so I don't mind if I destroy the db.
14:41:02 sean-k-mooney that will only work for a singel cell deployment
14:41:33 sean-k-mooney you can deploy the metadata serivce seperatly and you can deploy a different metata api instance per cell
14:46:51 rouk Yeah, but in a single cell deployment should it be writing to nova then trying to read the data from nova_cell0? Looks like something has to be wrong.
14:47:17 rouk New data shows up in nova, API tries to read it from nova_cell0 and never sees it.
14:55:41 sean-k-mooney so the correct work around is to deploy a seperate metadta service and point it to the cell db
14:56:00 sean-k-mooney but keep the nova-api actully poining only at the api db
14:56:20 sean-k-mooney but we should look into this and try and fix it so that is not required
15:00:45 rouk Yeah. I'll look into deploying metadata separate, not sure how/if kolla has it supported yet, but I'll figure it out. Anything I can do to help fix the issue upstream?
15:04:15 rouk Also have i screwed my db by pointing directly at the nova db on nova-api and nova-scheduler?
15:04:35 rouk As that current workaround didn't have much thought put into the consequences
15:16:05 sean-k-mooney you likely have not broke them but you should not do that
15:16:46 sean-k-mooney dansmith: ^ the api db should not point directly to the cell db right. it looks like the block device mapping are only in the cell db so they are missing form the metadata responce
15:17:10 sean-k-mooney pointing nova-api at the cell db instead of cell0 seams to fix it but obvioly not the right thing to do
15:17:30 sean-k-mooney the workaround im suggesting is deploy a seperate metadta api and have it point to the cell db for now
15:18:13 sean-k-mooney rouk: i think we are just not correctly downcalling form the api to the cell db to get this info
16:24:35 bauzas beer'o time
16:27:55 rouk sean-k-mooney: seems like kolla doesnt have any tooling for deploying per-cell metadata yet, is there some documentation on whats actually needed to do it? any docs i can find from nova are super vague on how per-cell meta works.
16:34:59 rouk seems like the easiest fix would be to keep api connected to the cell's db until its fixed, unless theres some implementation docs i can use to add per-cell meta to kolla.
17:14:07 lbragstad gmann johnthetubaguy i see the policy stuff made it on the retrospective
17:14:34 johnthetubaguy lbragstad: yeah, just saying it was good it landed
17:14:35 lbragstad gmann johnthetubaguy i tried joining, but i was a late
17:14:52 lbragstad is there anything that we can take out of that discussion?
17:19:02 gmann lbragstad: few things we discussed during oslo-nova session on Monday
17:19:12 gmann on json format stuff
17:20:17 gmann lbragstad: L80 - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oslo-victoria-topics
17:21:14 gmann especially how to migrate json format to yaml in smooth way
17:21:19 lbragstad gmann ah - yeah
17:27:51 sean-k-mooney rouk: well you only have one cell so i would leave the main api pointing to the api db/cell 0 and have the seperate metadata service point to the singel cell
17:28:19 sean-k-mooney kolla does support a spereate metadtaa api i belive so that should be doable. i think
17:28:40 rouk yeah, but i dont know how to set up a separate metadata service, docs arent really specific on what to do, and id have to understand the process before i can add it to kolla.
17:28:56 rouk i dont see any tasks for it in kolla
17:31:14 sean-k-mooney ya just looked too it looks like they dont support it
17:32:08 rouk yeah, so im debating between adding support for it, which... theres little docs other than spec drawing for me to implement it, or just leaving nova-api on wrong db till i need multi-cell or the nova bug is fixed
17:32:44 sean-k-mooney rouk: so currently you are just chainging [database]/connection
17:32:51 rouk yes.
17:32:53 sean-k-mooney to point to your nova db which is cell 1
17:33:06 sean-k-mooney and ytou are not changin [api_database]/connection
17:33:12 rouk correct.
17:33:34 sean-k-mooney im not sure if that would implcitly be harmful
17:34:09 sean-k-mooney rouk: the schelder shoudl not need to be modifed by the way
17:34:14 sean-k-mooney it would only be nova-api
17:34:45 rouk yeah, i need to revert that change, kolla puts them onto the same config, i need to make my change more specific and split it up a bit
17:35:06 sean-k-mooney ya that is simple to do with kolla
17:35:20 rouk yeah, just going to do a nova-api.conf override
17:35:52 sean-k-mooney yep
17:36:06 sean-k-mooney i really like there config override system
17:36:25 sean-k-mooney you know htat you can use jinja varables in your config overrides too
17:37:54 sean-k-mooney so you can put connection = mysql+pymysql://{{ nova_cell0_database_user }}:{{ nova_cell0_database_password }}@{{ nova_cell0_database_address }}/{{ nova_cell0_database_name }}
17:37:56 sean-k-mooney max_pool_size = 50
17:38:00 sean-k-mooney in your config
17:38:16 sean-k-mooney and just change teh {{nova_cell0_database_name}} bit
17:38:47 rouk yep, already got the template change written when i overrode the .j2 file originally, just copying my change into nova-api instead
17:39:28 sean-k-mooney rouk: sure just making sure you know the {{}} syntax works most people dont realise that the overrides are processed as jinja templates too
17:41:48 rouk i hope i dont have to write nova-api-metadata myself for victoria or something, since yeah, ill probably need per-cell metadata soon, one site will be extending past 100 hypervisors eventually. metadata will probably be fiiiine till 200 hypervisors before i start having perf issues.
17:42:10 rouk how bad will the fix be on the nova side to fix single metadata?
17:42:37 sean-k-mooney rouk: you can run multiple instance of thte metadta service today with kolla
17:43:05 sean-k-mooney so you should be fine well beyond 200 instance provided you configure memcache to cache between the differen metadata services
17:43:34 rouk yeah, i have a bunch, its just going to suck when theyre spread over geographic locations, or large networks. im talking 200+ hypervisors, 100-200 instances each
17:43:52 rouk right now im at 80something hypervisors.
17:43:56 sean-k-mooney rouk: but regarding the fix sinc e i have not looked at why we are not geting the info form the cell db im not sure but i suspect it should not be supper invaisve to fix
17:44:23 rouk should i open a bug for tracking?
17:44:30 sean-k-mooney yes definetly
17:46:07 rouk alright, ill have that up once i have my kolla change deployed and verify my users are happy.
18:08:04 josephillips hey
18:08:21 josephillips someone with idea of how to solve this The instance sync for host 'Computenode' did not match. Re-created its InstanceList.
18:08:21 openstack Launchpad bug 1881944 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-api returns empty block-device-mapping in metadata queries" [Undecided,New]
18:08:21 rouk sean-k-mooney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1881944
18:08:27 josephillips happend eventualy

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