| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2020-03-11 | |||
| 15:37:26 | gibi | mriedem: thanks a bunch | |
| 15:38:05 | dansmith | oh, I see, | |
| 15:38:13 | dansmith | I'm not an admin for that group, just a member | |
| 15:38:18 | mriedem | dansmith: you are now | |
| 15:38:33 | dansmith | ah, I see now.. sweet, thanks | |
| 15:43:45 | mriedem | could probably drop mikal and laski from that group | |
| 15:43:56 | mriedem | i mean, single tear and all | |
| 15:45:25 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Use virDomainBlockCopy to swap volumes with Libvirt >= 5.10.0 https://review.opendev.org/696834 | |
| 16:16:43 | gmann | brinzhang: done. | |
| 16:19:15 | gmann | policy are not changed for its name etc need not to add in deprecation separately, base rule deprecation handle the deprecation for them. | |
| 16:20:03 | gmann | we are using base rule for our policies check_str so that common things like deprecation for common check_str and override by operator are easy to do. | |
| 16:25:09 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/train: Fix os-keypairs pagination links https://review.opendev.org/711895 | |
| 17:22:18 | openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup test for system reader and reader_or_owner rules https://review.opendev.org/712515 | |
| 18:55:30 | openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add config option for neutron client retries https://review.opendev.org/712226 | |
| 18:56:43 | openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Add config option for neutron client retries https://review.opendev.org/712226 | |
| 19:03:14 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Handle unset 'connection_info' https://review.opendev.org/686997 | |
| 19:03:22 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove unnecessary exception handling, mocks https://review.opendev.org/703973 | |
| 19:03:30 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: nova-net: Remove unused nova-network objects https://review.opendev.org/697156 | |
| 19:22:22 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Create and bind Cyborg ARQs. https://review.opendev.org/631244 | |
| 19:22:23 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Compose accelerator PCI devices into domain XML in libvirt driver. https://review.opendev.org/631245 | |
| 19:22:23 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Pass accelerator requests to each virt driver from compute manager. https://review.opendev.org/698581 | |
| 19:22:24 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Enable hard/soft reboot with accelerators. https://review.opendev.org/697940 | |
| 19:22:24 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Delete ARQs for an instance when the instance is deleted. https://review.opendev.org/673735 | |
| 19:22:25 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Enable and use COMPUTE_ACCELERATORS trait. https://review.opendev.org/699554 | |
| 19:22:25 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Enable start/stop of instances with accelerators. https://review.opendev.org/699553 | |
| 19:22:26 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Bump compute rpcapi version and reduce Cyborg calls. https://review.opendev.org/704227 | |
| 19:22:27 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Add cyborg tempest job. https://review.opendev.org/670999 | |
| 19:22:27 | openstackgerrit | Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova master: Block unsupported instance operations with accelerators. https://review.opendev.org/674726 | |
| 19:36:17 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Always provide the size in bytes when calling virDomainBlockResize https://review.opendev.org/707590 | |
| 19:36:17 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Use oslo.utils >= 4.1.0 to fetch format-specific image data https://review.opendev.org/710785 | |
| 19:36:18 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove QEMU_VERSION_REQ_SHARED https://review.opendev.org/710239 | |
| 19:36:18 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: images: Remove Libvirt specific configurable use from qemu_img_info https://review.opendev.org/707591 | |
| 19:36:19 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: images: Make JSON the default output format of calls to qemu-img info https://review.opendev.org/711679 | |
| 20:37:18 | fungi | anybody have any recent experience with using the vsphere virt driver? or know someone who might be able to reply to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013066.html | |
| 20:38:08 | fungi | the author of that post is privately random e-mailing osf staff now trying to find out who has experience with it | |
| 20:42:46 | melwitt | fungi: maybe try KeithMnemonic | |
| 20:42:57 | fungi | thanks melwitt! | |
| 20:43:56 | fungi | granted they started out e-mailing the contact address for the openstack website, until several of us suggested they reach out to the openstack-discuss ml | |
| 20:44:05 | fungi | so i'm not sure i'd wish this on anyone | |
| 20:44:33 | sean-k-mooney | fungi well we did spend like 30 mins disucssing should we deprecated teh driver eailer | |
| 20:44:50 | fungi | that sounds like legitimate details to me ;) | |
| 20:45:28 | sean-k-mooney | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2020-03-11.log.html#t2020-03-11T14:16:55 | |
| 20:46:03 | sean-k-mooney | fungi: the issue is the vmware ci has not been running/passing for months and we dont actully know if it still works | |
| 20:46:14 | melwitt | yeah, I could see deprecating it. we deprecated the xen driver last year I think | |
| 20:46:23 | sean-k-mooney | fungi: we think it does but there is no one active that works on it | |
| 20:47:09 | sean-k-mooney | looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/VMware_CI | |
| 20:47:58 | sean-k-mooney | Salvatore Orlando and Sihan Wang were the main contacts | |
| 20:48:23 | fungi | yeah, i haven't seen either of then in irc in ages | |
| 20:48:30 | sean-k-mooney | but i dont think salv-orlando has been active for like 2+ years | |
| 20:48:39 | fungi | right, that matches my recollection | |
| 20:48:54 | melwitt | I have seen gkotton relatively recently I feel like ... on gerrit | |
| 20:51:23 | melwitt | and like https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.vmware that's the only hints I see that there are people working on it | |
| 20:58:24 | fungi | thanks, passing all that along | |
| 21:00:50 | dansmith | fungi: glad to know that foundation staff are getting hounded | |
| 21:01:15 | fungi | we're usually the first folks who get contacted by users who don't know where to find contact information | |
| 21:01:16 | mriedem | gary left vmware | |
| 21:01:17 | mriedem | awhile back | |
| 21:01:18 | mriedem | fyi | |
| 21:01:29 | dansmith | fungi: not because I'm glad you're feeling the pain, but glad that it forms some justification that vmware isn't around to support it being in upstream | |
| 21:01:48 | dansmith | fungi: after that email went 5 days with no response I posted the deprecation patch | |
| 21:01:49 | fungi | in theory this is what a user committee is for, but... | |
| 21:01:57 | dansmith | fungi: which lo and behold had people out of the woodwork | |
| 21:02:18 | fungi | nobody out of the woodwork enough to answer the e-mail though | |
| 21:02:28 | dansmith | right | |
| 21:02:40 | dansmith | just out of the woodwork to beg to keep it in tree for marketing reasons (my embellishment) | |
| 21:02:44 | fungi | i just feel bad about it in part because i suggested they contact openstack-discuss | |
| 21:03:27 | dansmith | in this case, that's the right thing to do, they're trying to get upstream nova to work with upstream devstack | |
| 21:03:37 | fungi | yep | |
| 21:03:40 | dansmith | we can't really help them though, because we have no idea if it's even supposed to work | |
| 21:03:48 | dansmith | CI hasn't voted in ages, and last it did, it reported error | |
| 21:03:54 | fungi | oh, i totally agree | |
| 21:03:59 | sean-k-mooney | i could reply and ask them to provide the n-cpu log because there initall email was just "devstack failed because n-cpu did not start" | |
| 21:04:17 | fungi | more just sad that there are users who have been effectively abandoned by the folks who were maintaining the driver | |
| 21:04:33 | sean-k-mooney | but honestly i know almost nothing baout vmware so unless its a really really dumb error i wont be able to help | |
| 21:05:00 | fungi | sean-k-mooney: right, it's entirely possible the issue they're running into isn't even vmware-specific, but mentioning vmware in any question is a quick way to turn off most people's brains | |
| 21:05:30 | dansmith | well, I think it's more likely that one of the many virt-related changes lately have caused that driver to not even be able to report resources properly | |
| 21:05:32 | mriedem | sean-k-mooney: i need you for some other hardware acceleration related wild goose chases actually | |
| 21:05:39 | sean-k-mooney | well i did look at the main but it was just teh error you get whenever the compute service is not started properly | |
| 21:06:34 | dansmith | IMHO, the overstretched nova team doesn't need to be spending any time trying to maintain (and help users) for a driver we can't even test | |
| 21:06:38 | sean-k-mooney | mriedem: haha if someone offeres you enginering samples of hardware and will pay you to look at it run | |
| 21:06:42 | dansmith | we should be communicating clearly that we expect it's broken | |
| 21:06:49 | sean-k-mooney | pre alpha hardware sucks | |
| 21:07:10 | dansmith | fungi: feel free to comment: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712101/ | |
| 21:07:24 | dansmith | fungi: even if "even I was asked for help because clearly there's no resources for users" | |
| 21:08:01 | fungi | i'm trying to find nice ways to more or less say that in my reply to the private e-mail this user has sent me, without putting words in anyone's mouths and instead just linking to the currently available public resources | |
| 21:08:30 | sean-k-mooney | fungi: you could link to the irc logs of this conversation | |
| 21:08:32 | dansmith | fungi: link them to the patch saying "It looks like you shouldn't expect this to work, sorry, we're working on getting the messaging out... $link" | |
| 21:09:30 | fungi | dansmith: sean-k-mooney: yes, both of those things, thanks! | |
| 21:16:04 | fungi | though since xuel@vmware.com has volunteered in https://review.opendev.org/712101 to receive requests for assistance, i'll mention that in my reply | |
| 21:26:49 | melwitt | mriedem: ack, thanks didn't know that | |
| 21:28:20 | melwitt | hoo dang devstack worked the first time. yesss | |
| 21:29:23 | sean-k-mooney | melwitt: that normally works for me if i am using a clean vm and i have done an os update and rebooted first | |
| 21:29:36 | melwitt | *devstack with ceph plugin | |
| 21:29:42 | sean-k-mooney | ah | |
| 21:29:47 | melwitt | I had a hell of a time last time. this time all smooth | |
| 21:30:17 | melwitt | cause if it fails in the middle for any reason, restarting it didn't seem to work. just keeps tripping over itself | |
| 21:30:31 | melwitt | restarting meaning run ./stack.sh again | |
| 21:30:54 | sean-k-mooney | did you run clean.sh or unstack before runing stack again | |
| 21:31:05 | melwitt | I didn't | |
| 21:31:20 | sean-k-mooney | ya thats proably your issue | |