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#openstack-nova - 2020-01-23
18:35:08 sean-k-mooney ya they are
18:35:13 sean-k-mooney 81:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104GL [Quadro K5000] (rev a1)
18:35:15 sean-k-mooney 81:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
18:35:44 sean-k-mooney so if we we made ^ work it would work for you too right
18:38:08 deke997 yes
18:38:27 deke997 That looks pretty much identical to my use case
18:42:09 sean-k-mooney ok what i would basicaly suggest is as follows. extent the alias with a child tag that can reference other alisas.
18:42:48 sean-k-mooney when you add an alias to a flaovr which has a child tag we woudl claim the deivce and all its childern
18:43:19 sean-k-mooney and expose them as a multi funcitn device
18:44:16 sean-k-mooney the pci pasthogh through filter would have to be enhanced to ensure it only passes host where the parent and child alias can be allocated form the same slot
18:44:51 sean-k-mooney the pci manger would also need to updated so that when we do the pci claim it claims the pair form the same slot
18:44:54 deke997 wouldn't that always be the case?
18:45:09 deke997 I don't see why the passthrough filter needs to be updated
18:45:21 sean-k-mooney well if you put two of those card in the same server it would break
18:46:07 sean-k-mooney as we coudl get 1 fucntion of type a form one card and one fucntion of type b from another
18:46:21 sean-k-mooney so the filter and assignment code would have to be hardened to prevent that
18:48:27 deke997 The assignment code, yes, but the filter, I don't think so
18:48:59 deke997 because before assignment, it would always be true that both the parent and child could be allocated together
18:49:31 sean-k-mooney its true if you alwasy need to request both
18:49:38 deke997 right
18:49:38 sean-k-mooney which is true in your case
18:49:42 sean-k-mooney not in the gpu case
18:49:47 deke997 I see
18:50:12 deke997 in that case, then yea the filter too
18:50:16 sean-k-mooney anyway the assignment code and filter share the same code
18:50:41 sean-k-mooney the filter basicaly passes if it would be able to assign
18:51:44 sean-k-mooney deke997: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/pci_passthrough_filter.py#L51
18:52:01 sean-k-mooney see we just loop over the request and ask can it suppor the request
18:52:20 sean-k-mooney well the loopin is don internally in the suport_request funtion
18:53:06 sean-k-mooney we just make a copy of the avliable devices and try to assigntem on hte copy https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/6db486e9fd4f6b8dd02371b043e66808cdd1e0cd/nova/pci/stats.py#L374-L375
18:54:40 sean-k-mooney so if you update _apply_request to handel the assignment constriatt the filter gets updated for free
18:55:13 deke997 got it
18:56:10 deke997 are we proposing to let libvirt handle initial target device config and then have nova take over, or are we proposing to have nova handle target device config?
18:56:30 deke997 These are the only two options so far, yea?
18:56:52 sean-k-mooney the only two i am aware of. if we were to do this updatream i would prefer to do it properly
18:57:15 sean-k-mooney and have nova do it. if you need to do it downstream quick well that is up to you
18:57:42 sean-k-mooney deke997: what is the eta you had in mind for this
18:57:52 deke997 2 days ago haha
18:58:05 deke997 I won't be sleeping much till I get this working
18:58:19 sean-k-mooney ya fair warning to land this upstream its proably going to be next cycle
18:58:35 deke997 yea so I think we'll do both
18:58:44 deke997 downstream quick, and then work on upstream
18:58:51 deke997 when is the next cycle?
18:58:51 sean-k-mooney i could be ussuri if it was really pusshed for but this code is complex and a pain to test
18:59:16 sean-k-mooney it starts in 3 monts os like september/october
18:59:30 sean-k-mooney there is still about 2-3 weeks to propose specs for this cycle
18:59:57 sean-k-mooney you would need to figure out what need to chagne and write up a propals and get it review by then
19:00:17 sean-k-mooney then there is able 2 months left to land the feature
19:00:30 sean-k-mooney but beign realisting if you need this quick
19:00:52 sean-k-mooney then likely createing a poc and upstreaming it next cycle is what your going to have to do
19:01:32 sean-k-mooney for the poc you could do the hack where you fix up the adresses
19:01:32 deke997 One thing to check on:
19:01:52 deke997 I think cyborg is doing some stuff with multi function too
19:01:59 deke997 I saw it while doing research
19:02:04 sean-k-mooney ya so cyborg would be another option
19:02:15 sean-k-mooney if the integration is done this cycle
19:02:34 sean-k-mooney then you could write a device dirver for you custom multifunion device
19:02:50 sean-k-mooney but the xml change would still need to be done
19:03:03 sean-k-mooney you would not have to touch the filer or pci manager in that case
19:03:14 sean-k-mooney but you would need to do all the cyborg work
19:04:51 sean-k-mooney deke997: cyborg support in nova is planned for this cycle but we said that last cycle too
19:05:02 sean-k-mooney deke997: its much closer to being read this time however
19:06:35 deke997 Good to know
19:07:48 deke997 I need to look into how they're implementing multi function a bit more
19:08:13 deke997 but even so, I can't wait till the next cycle to get a beta working here
19:09:05 sean-k-mooney at present without the libvirt support for multifuntion devices in nova cybporg cant support what you need
19:09:06 deke997 I think the options in order of increasing time, complexity, and correctness would probably be
19:09:17 deke997 1. hack
19:09:22 deke997 2. nova
19:09:24 deke997 3. cyborg
19:09:58 sean-k-mooney 0 heiring an intern to manually update every vm as it spawns
19:10:07 deke997 hahahah
19:10:13 deke997 but I can't even do that
19:10:32 sean-k-mooney actully there is one other hack you cloud do
19:10:32 deke997 the xml changes don't go into effect till you reboot
19:10:46 deke997 and when you reboot, it gets overwritten
19:11:07 deke997 is there a way to make the xml changes before boot? or to make the changes go live while the instance is running?
19:11:32 sean-k-mooney for reasons in the past i did have need to do horible things
19:11:36 sean-k-mooney https://opendev.org/x/networking-ovs-dpdk/src/branch/master/devstack/libs/ovs-dpdk#L79-L130
19:12:16 sean-k-mooney that is an example of a script that replace the qemu executable and rewrites the qemu commandline on the fly
19:13:39 sean-k-mooney what that sciprt is acatlly doing is making sure nic offload that did not work with ancnet version of qemu and ovs-dpdk are disabeld and it makes ure the guest memory has the mmap shared flag set
19:14:25 sean-k-mooney you could install a qemu wrapper script as a hack to match on parts of the qemu command line and alter it
19:14:46 sean-k-mooney it would have 0 support form anyone but it is a -1 on your scale
19:17:04 deke997 haha i'll have to look into that too i guess
19:17:38 sean-k-mooney adding flags to existing optins is nasty but actully kind of simple
19:17:51 sean-k-mooney doing what you need to do would be harder
19:18:18 sean-k-mooney but at the end of the day the commandline is fairly deterministic so it would be doable
19:18:36 sean-k-mooney definelty not my first choise but we dont always get to do our first choice
19:19:57 deke997 I'll see what I can figure out tonight and get back to you soon with the progress
19:20:07 deke997 lmk if you have any other ideas
#openstack-nova - 2020-01-24
10:05:01 lyarwood ?pyyamk
10:05:08 lyarwood whops sorry
10:54:07 stephenfin efried: Looking through that now. A few of them look like races ("The specified subnet does not have enough free addresses to satisfy the request.") but yet more might be issues ("Unknown error occurred."). Will keep rooting
14:23:43 gibi dansmith: I've replied to your comments in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702261/
14:24:28 artom gibi, according to our internal PTO calendar, he's off in the woods somewhere
14:25:25 gibi artom: thanks.
14:28:32 gibi lyarwood: coud you re-review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702181/ as you were +2 before but I fixed comments from elod
14:38:01 bauzas why for gosh's sake we aren't using the same driver method for finishing a resize and finishing a resize revert ? graaaah
14:45:58 lyarwood gibi: done, thanks!
14:46:13 lyarwood random Friday question, do we not have an ImageService fixture?

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