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#openstack-nova - 2019-11-12
08:02:42 bauzas good morning Nova
08:27:55 gibi bauzas: good morning
08:28:01 gibi bauzas: how is your jetlag?
08:35:54 bauzas gibi: quite good, just woke up today at 6.30am :)
08:35:58 bauzas gibi: and you ?
09:22:42 kashyap lyarwood: efried: Back today. I haven't read the KM-long scrollback, afraid (buried under several things).
10:07:30 openstackgerrit Liang Fang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support volume local cache https://review.opendev.org/689070
10:48:43 kashyap Does anyone recall top off their head, AMD SEV support in Nova doesn't support live migration yet, does it?
10:48:53 kashyap (I vaguely recall it doesn't.)
10:49:02 kashyap I'm sure it's somewhere in the spec
10:51:58 kashyap (Yep, my guess is correct - checked in the spec. Also needs support for LM-with-SEV from lower layers.)
11:03:24 gibi bauzas: today was OK for me, yesterday I start my day at 4:45
11:17:24 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Pass RequestContext to oslo_policy https://review.opendev.org/674038
11:17:32 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add func test for 'required' PCI NUMA policy https://review.opendev.org/682941
11:21:37 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Resolve TODO in _remove_host_allocations https://review.opendev.org/693636
11:29:58 openstack bug 1852207 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "reschedule ignores that requested availability zone" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852207 - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)
11:29:58 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Functional reproduce for bug 1852207 https://review.opendev.org/693817
11:30:15 gibi elod: ^^
12:10:09 openstackgerrit Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Support re-configure the delete_on_termination in server https://review.opendev.org/693828
13:04:18 jroll efried: thanks, will hit it today
13:36:41 kashyap git fetch gerrit
13:37:08 kashyap Err
13:37:22 openstackgerrit Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose "Secure Boot support for KVM & QEMU guests" spec https://review.opendev.org/693844
13:38:28 openstackgerrit Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose "Secure Boot support for KVM & QEMU guests" for Ussuri https://review.opendev.org/693844
13:49:31 mriedem gibi: before i get started on rebasing the cross cell resize series and adding a change to just cast from api to conductor always ( https://review.opendev.org/#/c/635684/53/nova/compute/api.py@3852 ) i wanted to see if you're ok with that plan?
13:50:49 efried Fun morning. About every 15 minutes, the power goes out for a half second. Just long enough to kill my router.
13:51:40 efried Texas: "Ohh, noooo, it's three degrees below freezing, I'm dyyyyyying!"
13:52:23 mriedem thoughts and prayers
13:52:41 efried kashyap: Let me tldr it for you: what's the minimum qemu needed for *encrypted* emulated TPM?
13:52:59 kashyap efried: Hiya; need to do some sleuthing. Let me do that...
13:53:02 efried unencrypted was 2.11 (according to cfriesen)
13:53:07 efried thanks kashyap
13:53:09 mriedem we got a replacement tree put in over the weekend and you're supposed to water new trees but what about when the ground is frozen...
13:53:13 efried not a huge gurry.
13:53:27 efried mriedem: hot water?
13:53:29 kashyap I'll not gurry.
13:53:55 efried "fish or whale offal". Nice.
13:54:02 kashyap "the entrails of fish or whales"
13:54:30 efried but we haven't seen sean-k-mooney yet, so...
13:54:31 efried :P
13:54:42 mriedem efried: i'm pretty sure hot water just freezes too
13:54:45 kashyap Speaking of "offals" ... the other week I was in Lyon, France, for KVM Forum. They are all super big into "offals", apparently. (/me is a vegetarian; only heard it through the grapevine)
13:55:06 efried That's... awfful
13:55:12 efried (see what I did there?)
13:55:21 kashyap Very pun
13:56:16 efried Many cultures have an equivalent. Boudin sausage in Louisiana. Hot dogs in baseball stadiums...
13:56:29 efried haggis in scotland
13:56:38 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Virtual instance rescue with stable disk devices https://review.opendev.org/693849
13:59:02 kashyap efried: I see. (Yeah, heard the "haggis" term echo around when in Edinburgh last year.)
13:59:59 luyao efried: hi Eric, I have a question, do I need a bp and separate spec for vpmem live migration?
14:00:20 efried It must be like, at some point in their history all these cultures were starving, so they had to make use of every calorie they could scrounge up, and find a way to make it palatable. And then for reasons of... tradition? it remained in the culture long after it ceased to be necessary.
14:00:38 efried Except for the hot dog thing. That's just because baseball fans are stupid and crazy.
14:05:04 dswebb Hi,have a bit of an odd issue with Livemigration on rocky. I've got a 3 node nova cluster using iscsi -> nimble as my storage. I can successfully migrate a VM from node 1 to node 2 (or node2 to node1) once. If I try and migrate the vm back to the node it started on (or any node it's been on prior) it fails silently to migrate and the only logs I see that suggest any issue are the following: https://pastebin.com/Y2ccf3MR
14:05:54 gibi mriedem: sorry I have to get back to you tomorrow (my) morning
14:06:36 mriedem gibi: ok i'll just post the change since it'll be simple and i need to rebase the series anyway, if you have a problem with it you and dan can fight to the death on the review
14:07:18 gibi mriedem: sure. works for me :)
14:07:58 kashyap Ah, efried is gone ... just when I have his answer for him
14:15:39 luyao efried: hi Eric, in case of you not seeing the msg just now, I need you confirm if I need a blueprint and separate spec for vpmem live migration. Thanks in advance.
14:16:57 dswebb also worth mentioning that the same live migration (back and forth) using ceph as the cinder block store works fine
14:18:14 efried luyao: I don't know; let's put it on the agenda for the next meeting and ask the team.
14:19:04 luyao efried: OK, thanks
14:19:06 efried luyao: I think gibi had at least a blueprint and possibly a spec for the continuation of lifecycle ops with bandwidth providers, but I think that's a much bigger effort than for vpmem.
14:19:34 kashyap efried: Hey, so on your encrypted emulated TPM question --
14:20:22 kashyap efried: The QEMU version does not matter for encryption. What matters is the 'swtpm'. And you need at least libvirt 5.6.0 for the 'encryption' element
14:20:25 kashyap https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsTpm
14:21:29 efried kashyap: sweet, thank you very much. I was aware of the libvirt side, but couldn't find the qemu side documented anywhere.
14:21:58 efried bauzas, gibi: Thank you both for writing up those summaries!
14:22:08 bauzas np
14:22:10 bauzas HTH
14:23:18 luyao efried: yes, in terms of code size, the lm for vpmem is not big
14:24:43 efried luyao: was there mention of the details of lm implementation in the original spec? (Save me digging it up)
14:25:54 luyao efried: no, and I need update the original spec, since our implementation is different from it
14:27:36 openstackgerrit George proposed openstack/nova stable/ocata: Support qemu >= 2.10 https://review.opendev.org/693851
14:28:13 efried luyao: I think a short spec is probably a good idea, since (IIRC) there are RPC object changes, right?
14:29:42 luyao efried: yes, there is
14:30:12 efried So yeah, please put together a brief spec. Thanks.
14:31:47 luyao efried: Get it, thanks
15:04:24 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Functional tests for NUMA live migration https://review.opendev.org/672595
15:04:24 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Helper to start computes with different HostInfos https://review.opendev.org/686832
15:04:26 openstack bug 1845146 in OpenStack Compute (nova) train "NUMA aware live migration failed when vCPU pin set" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845146 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms)
15:04:26 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: NUMA LM: Add func test for bug 1845146 https://review.opendev.org/687404
15:05:31 artom stephenfin, if you've recovered from PTG and still have all your organs, ^^ is still waiting :)
15:07:17 bauzas artom: stephenfin is still somewhere in China
15:07:33 artom bauzas, intentionally? ;)
15:08:01 dansmith lyarwood: I reviewed your rescue spec.. do you have any idea what needs to happen and or what blockers there would be to making rescue work for BFV instances?
15:08:08 bauzas artom: and I can't tell for his organs, but last time I saw him, his liver was working correctly
15:08:09 bauzas :p
15:08:38 artom bauzas, haha
15:08:47 bauzas artom: well, he found that Shanghai wasn't that huge so he visited another city
15:09:06 bauzas oh, and FWIW, I'll keep my wechat account
15:09:30 bauzas living in China for one week makes you realize how life can be different without big G and a few other tools
15:14:05 lyarwood dansmith: thanks for that, yeah I have a rough idea but I've not looked at this since failing to land this in Newton. I can't think of much that's changed since then with regards to the high level implementation. I also can't think of any additional blockers for BFV at the moment tbh.
15:15:05 dansmith lyarwood: okay, maybe I'll try removing the BFV check on a devstack and poke around with what is and isn't working in the current setup
15:15:22 dansmith lyarwood: because BFV instances are some of the more important ones you'd want to rescue, ya'know
15:16:11 lyarwood dansmith: right, so for rescue to work you need to switch things around so the rescue device is the final thing attached, not the first and then boot from that device.
15:17:03 dansmith lyarwood: that's what you're proposing....
15:19:35 lyarwood dansmith: right sorry I think I'm misunderstanding what you're actually asking here.
15:20:16 dansmith lyarwood: right now we just categorically refuse to rescue a BFV instance, and I think we should change that since BFV instances are likely pets, and likely in need of rescue
15:20:30 dansmith so, with your proposed changes, in addition to the ordering, also including cinder volumes,
15:20:47 dansmith I'm wondering what we could do to follow up your changes with a change to allow rescue of BFV instances

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