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#openstack-nova - 2019-10-31
20:10:42 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/ocata: Add functional regression test for bug 1669054 https://review.opendev.org/649419
20:10:44 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/ocata: Do not persist RequestSpec.ignore_hosts https://review.opendev.org/649420
20:44:46 mriedem holy crap 2 changes merged
20:44:55 mriedem that's....spooktacular
#openstack-nova - 2019-11-01
01:51:04 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/stein: Switch to opensuse-15 nodeset https://review.opendev.org/692033
01:51:11 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add functional test for two-cell scheduler behaviors https://review.opendev.org/452006
02:37:56 openstackgerrit Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow specify user to reset password https://review.opendev.org/682302
06:31:31 openstackgerrit Sundar Nadathur proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Updated Nova-Cyborg interaction spec. https://review.opendev.org/684151
07:16:01 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Refactor rebuild_instance https://review.opendev.org/688419
08:23:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/stein: libvirt: Ignore volume exceptions during post_live_migration https://review.opendev.org/691282
08:31:32 openstackgerrit Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova master: Move Nova Quobyte driver to LibvirtMountedFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.opendev.org/687066
08:32:23 openstackgerrit Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP]Move Nova Quobyte driver to LibvirtMountedFileSystemVolumeDriver https://review.opendev.org/687066
13:05:00 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Default AZ for instance if cross_az_attach=False and checking from API https://review.opendev.org/469675
13:09:49 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: libvirt: Ignore volume exceptions during post_live_migration https://review.opendev.org/691283
13:12:28 mriedem need a couple of cores to review gibi's evacuate + qos ports changes, the top is trivial, the bottom is a little more work but not bad, lots of test coverage and i'm +2 on it https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-move-ops-with-qos-ports-ussuri+status:open
13:14:48 mriedem s/a couple of cores/one other core/
13:23:10 efried I tried to hit those on Wed but didn't have it in me. I'll try again today.
13:24:39 efried mriedem, dansmith: do you think the cyborg tempest job should ultimately be voting or nonvoting in nova? The ironic job is nonvoting but the neutron jobs are voting, so I'm not sure there's a clear precedent for "integration test with $service"
13:25:12 sean-k-mooney efried: well if neturon is broken we cant boot vms
13:25:39 sean-k-mooney efried: if ironic is broken we just can manage bematal but the other virt dirvers shoudl still work
13:25:53 sean-k-mooney efried: i would assume it would be non voting at least at first
13:26:08 efried seems like a reasonable line of thought. Thanks.
13:33:26 mriedem the ironic job is voting in other projects, just not nova, likely because no one cared to make it voting in nova
13:33:48 mriedem and historically the ironic jobs were very inconsistent and failed / timed out frequently
13:33:59 Sundar sean-k-mooney, efried: I agree it should be non-voting now. With the fake driver, we are putting up a VM without devices.
13:34:25 sean-k-mooney right its just testing the api workflow
13:34:33 mriedem we also have a barbican job in the experimental queue, but i'm not sure how stable that is either
13:34:34 sean-k-mooney even so that is valuable to test
13:35:12 sean-k-mooney with zuulv3 and the fact we can manage this all in repo its not hard to change if we think its stable and worth it
13:36:27 Sundar mriedem, sean-k-mooney, efried: What is the criterion to place a job in experimental, instead of check alone?
13:36:48 efried "We don't want this to run with every patch set"
13:36:54 efried "only on demand"
13:37:34 efried Considering how integrated the cyborg callouts are in the general flow of nova, IMO this one needs to be in check
13:38:34 efried ...once the code is in place. Which is what's signified by the job-add patch being on top of the series.
13:39:16 sean-k-mooney efried: ya i think it should be in check too as non voting
13:41:11 Sundar efried: Re. the criterion "We don't want this to run with every patch set" -- we may want to run the tests when anything changes in the compute manager or virt driver, at least.
13:41:26 Sundar Well, at least libvirt driver
13:41:38 sean-k-mooney Sundar: right erric was commenting about why it would be in experimental
13:41:59 sean-k-mooney if its in experimental one of the resaons for that is we dont want it to run on every patch
13:42:10 sean-k-mooney for cyborg we want it to run on most patches
13:42:23 sean-k-mooney so it better to keep it in check
13:42:36 Sundar sean-k-mooney: Sure, makes sense. How about gate?
13:42:39 efried Sundar: If you wanted to try to come up with a reasonable setting for 'irrelevant-files' you could do that. But for something coupled into the compute manager and virt driver and scheduler and conductor like this, I think that would be very difficult to nail down effectively.
13:42:54 efried Sundar: if it's nonvoting, it doesn't make sense for it to be in the gate queue.
13:42:56 dansmith definitely
13:43:01 dansmith maybe nova/doc :)
13:43:25 Sundar efried: So check only?
13:43:27 sean-k-mooney the default irrelevant-files we use for tempest jobs should be fine
13:43:46 efried Sundar: yes. Check, nonvoting. I commented as such in the patch.
13:43:54 sean-k-mooney Sundar: i think so we dont run most of the backend specific jobs in gate
13:44:18 efried which btw is here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670999/ for those following along at home
13:44:57 efried Sundar: if we made it voting at some point, we would probably want to add it to gate for the same reasons that motivated us to make it voting (whatever those are).
13:45:58 Sundar efried: Good. Yumeng wasn't clear about that last night.
13:46:47 Sundar efried, sean-k-mooney: On the PTG front,I'll schedule a cross-project Cyborg/Nova.
13:47:12 Sundar for whatever topics are remaining -- specs or patch
13:47:16 mriedem some non-voting jobs in check are more restrictive on when they run, see the nova-lvm job
13:47:27 mriedem talking about a gating cyborg job in nova is jumping the gun by a mile
13:47:46 Sundar mriedem: Sure, was just asking
13:48:54 mriedem dansmith: the state of the gate sub-thread about slowness and timing out of the POST to resize a server reminded me of something you said in my cross-cell series at some point, the api currently calls conductor which calls the scheduler and it's all blocking until we pick a dest compute and cast to it,
13:49:02 mriedem you said something about adding long_rpc_timeout to that,
13:49:11 sean-k-mooney Sundar: i can try to follow some of the etherpad remotely but i wont be at the ptg
13:49:36 dansmith mriedem: oh for resize...
13:49:42 mriedem i don't think that would help the particular case found in the email (tempest would have timed out after 3 minutes i think) but in general it's maybe something we should do anyway since that could be a lengthy blocking resize call on a big deployment like cern
13:49:53 dansmith mriedem: yeah
13:50:06 mriedem i was surprised when i found that was a blocking call in the first place
13:50:13 mriedem since usually that's a no-no from the api
13:50:42 dansmith mriedem: when looking into the cells scheduler fail, I found one of those page_cleaner errors too, but it was only like 8s over the expected 1s, yours is 161s, which is a big(ger) deal
13:51:22 mriedem dansmith: so one question, and maybe the answer is "meh, doesn't matter", but would we want to only use the long_rpc_timeout in the call from the api but *not* the reschedule call from the compute where we won't hit the scheduler again and should be much faster?
13:51:30 sean-k-mooney mriedem: so a resize blocks all the way untill the scduler select a destitaiton ? y a i would have expected that to be asyc
13:51:32 mriedem or just keep it simple and use long_rpc_timeout for both
13:51:49 mriedem sean-k-mooney: more than that, until it selects a dest and conductor casts to it's prep_resize method
13:52:17 dansmith mriedem: well, long_rpc for the first call for sure, because that's the cascade.. on the second one, yeah I dunno.. could do both and if they're really running, then let 'em run
13:52:21 mriedem the reschedule still has to re-swap allocations i guess...
13:52:34 mriedem yeah seems simple to just do both
13:53:04 dansmith so,
13:53:11 dansmith crazy thought just entered my head
13:53:49 dansmith we *could* add configs for each service that lets you provide rpc method names that we do as long-call,
13:54:07 dansmith which would make it easier to experiment with that on a running system when there's an issue like this
13:54:42 dansmith we could hard-code the ones we know are important, but others could be converted by virtue of being mentioned
13:54:50 dansmith I know, it's a little crazy, but..
13:55:39 mriedem seems a bit fickle, meaning typos would be easy to screw that up, or someone renaming a method, though i doubt that ever happens
13:55:43 sean-k-mooney how would we do that. add a decorator that inspected the config on invocation and convert them to a long rpc if found or something like that
13:55:54 mriedem you'd just check if the method name is in the configured list
13:56:08 mriedem if 'migrate_server' in CONF.conductor.long_rpc_timeout_calls
13:56:12 mriedem is one way
13:56:21 dansmith mriedem: yep all true
13:56:45 sean-k-mooney right i was just wonderign would htis be spread in the code or could we centralise it in one mentod that they all uses
13:57:09 mriedem i think that would be more useful before we had long_rpc_timeout where you otherwise just had to configure the global rpc_response_timeout for everything if you had one slow thing, like select_destinations
13:57:22 mriedem i'm sure vio deals with that
13:57:33 mriedem now having said that,
13:57:46 mriedem i think we know it's an issue for some object indirection api db queries on big lists
13:58:21 mriedem e.g. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633042/
13:58:48 mriedem but that would also be harder to configure properly i think
13:59:02 dansmith we should make the indirection methods use it always anyway probably
13:59:23 mriedem long_rpc_timeout? i thought about it when investigating that bug
13:59:30 dansmith yes
14:00:51 sean-k-mooney what would be the cost of makeing long_rpc the default out of interest. i assume there is a reason for being selectiv beyond the fact many rpc methods dont strictly need it
14:01:27 dansmith it increases rabbit load a little bit
14:02:02 sean-k-mooney ok im just wondering how much of a wack a mole problem this is
14:02:28 mriedem for object methods, could we distinguish between an object list query and just a single object query?

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