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#openstack-nova - 2019-10-03
14:06:41 mordred that's amazing
14:07:14 mriedem the poor api design before or the fact it was actually documented?
14:07:16 mriedem both?!
14:07:24 mordred both!
14:07:45 mordred also - I'm glad the answer this time does not require me to figure out how to do more complex logic
14:07:59 mordred sg_attrs['policy'] = policies[0] # this is awesome
14:08:04 mriedem yup
14:08:40 mordred oh - although - I still probably want to figure out how to switch somethign there - because older mvs won't have the policy parameter
14:08:47 mordred maybe I'll just wait until someone complains
14:09:35 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add reserved schema migrations for Ussuri https://review.opendev.org/686411
14:12:03 stephenfin melwitt: I assume I can kill the entire 'networks' quota thing when nova-net is removed?
14:12:13 stephenfin It seems it's not enabled by default atm anyway
14:13:36 efried sean-k-mooney: do you understand the SEV bug well enough to phrase a docs & reno warning saying it's broke? In case the fix doesn't make Train?
14:16:29 stephenfin mriedem++ lyarwood++ thanks for getting those novaclient fixes in so quickly
14:16:35 mriedem np
14:17:08 stephenfin efried: I'll take a lash at it now
14:17:15 efried thanks stephenfin
14:23:41 sean-k-mooney efried: if you mean the virto/dma issue yes i can proably write something up
14:24:21 sean-k-mooney i dont understand all the lowlevel details but i think i understand enough for a reno listing it as known issues
14:25:16 sean-k-mooney if stephenfin give it a go ill be happy to review too
14:25:36 sean-k-mooney the metting is in #openstack-meeting right
14:26:09 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/train: docs: Highlight the current broken state of SEV https://review.opendev.org/686414
14:27:07 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: yeah, #openstack-meeting
14:27:52 stephenfin and that's the reno ^^ I don't know if I need more details or if it's more nuanced than that (are there only certain conditions where virtio-scsi will be present, for example)?
14:28:07 sean-k-mooney yes
14:28:13 sean-k-mooney you have to opt in to it
14:28:25 sean-k-mooney ill review and add details as needed
14:28:49 sean-k-mooney then you can translate form sean-speak to english
14:30:46 mriedem stephenfin: comments inline
14:57:50 kashyap efried: Have not decided anything yet here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684375/ (on that 'preferred' thing). Will respond on the change
14:58:29 efried ack
15:00:41 efried tetsuro: o/ are you an hour off? :P
15:00:42 dansmith efried: you should approve my spec so you can include the sponsor revision in your template patch :) https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686232/
15:01:23 efried dansmith: you should add the core liaison section so I don't have to :)
15:01:35 dansmith efried: before it's in the template?
15:01:56 efried sure, there's nothing preventing additional untemplated sections afaik
15:01:57 cdent efried, mriedem : we got rid of healing of any allocations for healthy instance in nova-compute, yes? So if a nova-compute comes up and can't find a resource provider for itself, it will create one and its inventory but that's it. To fix things 'heal allocations' in nova-manage is the way to go.
15:02:10 efried dansmith: I'm only half serious, will review
15:02:14 dansmith efried: not sure I could get behind that heresy
15:02:49 sean-k-mooney while we are talking about specs ill jsut leave this one here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683174/
15:02:52 efried cdent: I don't remember, would have to go look
15:03:07 sean-k-mooney efried: is there a patch i should rebase it on?
15:03:21 cdent efried: if it's gone, I'm considering ways of putting it back...
15:03:23 sean-k-mooney or just wait for the template change to merge
15:03:24 dansmith efried: well, if you find something to -1 over I'll add it in there
15:03:30 efried sean-k-mooney: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685857/
15:03:46 efried dansmith: ack. May be a little bit, though, I'm kinda backed up.
15:03:56 sean-k-mooney efried: thanks
15:03:58 efried (insert metamucil joke)
15:04:21 dansmith my spec is very fiber-rich, fwiw
15:04:34 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-novaclient stable/rocky: Stop silently ignoring invalid 'nova boot --hint' options https://review.opendev.org/685983
15:04:35 efried sean-k-mooney: hold on a tick, I need to make an update to that.
15:04:49 dansmith melwitt: you probably would also be interested in approving my patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686232/ if you're around :)
15:07:13 sean-k-mooney efried: sure im on another meeting so im not going to update it until after
15:09:42 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'Core Liaison' section to spec template https://review.opendev.org/685857
15:09:49 efried mriedem, sean-k-mooney: done ^
15:12:06 efried dansmith: it would be neat if you would volunteer to sponsor https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685857/3/specs/ussuri/approved/provider-config-file.rst@319
15:12:44 efried Since it was, like, your idea
15:12:58 efried (I know, I know. But still.)
15:15:05 dansmith efried: uh, wut
15:15:37 dansmith oh you mean I said something in a PTG a year ago?
15:15:42 efried yes
15:15:48 efried you can't un-say it
15:15:57 mriedem cdent: correct
15:15:59 efried it was more like six months ago
15:16:08 efried statute of limitations
15:16:18 dansmith sure, but just because I think that's the way it should be done if we're going to do it, doesn't mean I think we should or that I want to put my neck out there for it, right?
15:17:22 dansmith I guess it depends on whether we tie the sponsorship thing purely to "help the contributor with the process" or "I plan to review this myself"
15:18:01 efried yeah, good point; I would definitely like you to be involved in the reviews; I'm mentoring dustinc either way.
15:18:04 dansmith I'll look it over and see what I think, but I kinda feel like I want to know what the ratelimiting number is going to be before I decide what I'm going to throw my support behind
15:18:09 efried (and reviewing the code either way)
15:18:49 efried dansmith: fair, though for simplicity, it may help to keep those things mentally separate. You can sponsor a thing, but it could still fall off the bottom at spec freeze time.
15:19:28 dansmith efried: not at spec freeze time, but at the "what are the top 25 things" point right?
15:19:51 sean-k-mooney that i would expect to be around ptg time
15:20:03 sean-k-mooney or just after ptg but before spec freeze
15:20:14 dansmith neither of us are going to be at ptg, so...
15:20:19 mriedem efried: comments on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685857/
15:20:30 efried dansmith: yes, I was thinking spec freeze time would be when we do the cut
15:20:39 efried but tbd
15:20:41 dansmith efried: wait, what?
15:21:04 dansmith efried: so we're going to put a bunch of specs in and then draw some line and what, remove the ones that aren't above the line?
15:21:18 dansmith maybe we need a different directory for almost-approved ? :)
15:21:41 dansmith btw,
15:21:44 efried yeah, something like that; if they're still unapproved we leave them unapproved (abandon, propose to backlog, whatever) and if they're already approved in the specs repo, we pull them out (and shunt them to backlog or whatever)
15:22:04 dansmith we should put them not in the approved directory then, IMHO
15:22:07 dansmith and btw,
15:22:15 efried this is probably why "direction" and "definition" are different fields in lp
15:22:26 dansmith I'm not trying to be too demanding, I just think we need to figure out what this process is if we're going to do it,
15:22:31 mriedem specs/ussuri/foreplay/
15:22:52 dansmith because if I got my spec in the approved directory and then it gets ripped out later I'm going to be more confused than any of your bullets in your commit message :)
15:22:57 efried approving "definition" means "if we're going to do this, this is how we're going to do it"; approving "direction" means "we're going to do it, now"
15:23:21 mriedem i think i've been out-processed for once
15:23:26 mriedem gold star
15:23:29 dansmith okay so we're going to gate the real approval in launchpad?
15:24:03 dansmith and any code that makes it in before the spec freeze is golden, and then we make the 25 cut at spec freeze time of things that aren't done?
15:24:14 efried dansmith: I agree. Ideally I would like to have left all specs and bps unapproved until cut time, and the only merge the ones above the line. But since we've already merged some, that's messy.
15:24:30 dansmith efried: well, unmerge them if you want
15:24:48 dansmith but yes, this is sounding pretty messy one way or the other
15:25:20 efried yeah, thought about that too. stephenfin has code proposed for nova-net removal; we could merge some and then if that bp doesn't make the cut... in that case probably nbd to have partially done.
15:26:10 stephenfin in nova-net case, we've removes parts of it for a few cycles now

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