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#openstack-nova - 2019-08-27
17:46:05 sean-k-mooney right after we call check_can_live_migrate_source in check_can_live_migrate_destination
17:46:17 dansmith artom: so it's very likely that you're blowing those away with this yeah?
17:46:22 artom Although sean-k-mooney's saying apparently all recent-ish NICs can do SRIOV, so maybe I *do* have the hardware?
17:46:52 sean-k-mooney artom: i have hardware and i set up port forwading so you can ssh in.
17:47:03 sean-k-mooney but im going to check both again after dinner
17:49:20 sean-k-mooney im going to grab dinner but ill kick of a devstack run before i go and setup the test enviromint
17:49:57 artom dansmith, seems likely, yeah
17:51:11 sean-k-mooney we dont use the pci request spec object from the instance sriov migration by the way
17:51:27 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L6428-L8993
17:51:46 dansmith sean-k-mooney: because why? we store details in neutron about it?
17:52:13 artom Hrmm
17:52:15 artom So actually
17:52:16 sean-k-mooney the only info we need to pass back as the pci address of the new device
17:52:18 artom AFAICT
17:52:31 artom The PCI stuff in the claim doesn't actually *claim* any resources
17:52:34 sean-k-mooney so we store that in the vif port profile which is wher ewe pass it to neutron
17:52:36 artom Just tests that it's supported
17:53:00 dansmith sean-k-mooney: okay, but nova's own structure would still have them in the pci_requests right?
17:53:07 dansmith so what about like rebuild or something?
17:53:07 sean-k-mooney yes
17:53:35 artom Ah, no, it does the _decrease_pool_count() thing, which "claims" the resource
17:54:20 sean-k-mooney how does it interact with this?
17:54:33 sean-k-mooney the claims have 3 states
17:54:41 sean-k-mooney free,cliamed and allocated
17:54:50 sean-k-mooney something like that
17:55:07 sean-k-mooney one of them meens its reserved for an instace the the otehr is its in use
17:55:10 dansmith I'm saying I would expect we use pci_requests if we're doing a rebuild on the instance
17:55:23 dansmith or other operations
17:55:43 dansmith point is just that corrupting our own accounting because sriov is tracked in neutron is not okay I don't think
17:55:53 sean-k-mooney so we are claiming the ot reserve them and later we update the instace with them weh we move it to the allocated state i think. its beed a whild and i dont really rememerb the details
17:56:08 sean-k-mooney this is the import cahgne https://review.opendev.org/#/c/620115/35/nova/compute/manager.py
17:56:12 mriedem we do'nt claim for rebuild
17:56:16 mriedem it's a noop claim
17:56:28 dansmith mriedem: sure, not related to claim
17:56:59 dansmith cross-cell-migrate looks at pci_requests
17:57:50 dansmith looks like regular live migration also looks at them to determine if they're all neutron-related
17:58:07 dansmith just trying to confirm that blowing them away is not something we can just ignore :)
18:01:02 efried dansmith: I'm looking at consecutive_build_service_disable_threshold and not seeing how it could be working
18:01:24 dansmith efried: we removed the compute side of that, if that's what you're looking at
18:01:40 efried "the compute side"
18:01:53 efried meaning... the part that makes it behave in any way other than a bool?
18:01:54 dansmith the part where the compute node self-disables
18:02:21 dansmith there should be renos about this
18:02:33 efried ack
18:02:46 dansmith change-consecutive-boot-failure-counter-to-weigher-428de7da0ed2033a.yaml
18:03:25 efried dansmith: okay
18:03:26 efried so
18:04:00 efried this is now up to deployers installing their own weigher?
18:04:12 dansmith eh?
18:04:19 dansmith did you read the reno?
18:04:56 dansmith efried: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/572195/
18:05:01 efried ack
18:05:18 dansmith added a weigher, changed the meaning of the threshold for compatibility reasons
18:05:25 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/filter-scheduler.html#weights
18:05:28 mriedem BuildFailureWeigher
18:07:24 dansmith efried: you hip to that jive?
18:07:58 efried Still trying to grok the implications.
18:08:31 efried So in a biggish cloud, if I have a bunch of failures in a row on a particular host, even if I don't hit the default multiplier, it's still going to make scheduling to that node way less likely
18:08:36 dansmith mriedem: beat you to the youtube ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgW3RxKdN0Q
18:09:04 dansmith efried: hit the multiplier meaning "change" it?
18:09:27 efried sorry, no, I just mean...
18:09:58 efried IIUC the default multiplier is really big so that by default you won't effectively-disable a compute until it's seen a really lot of build failures.
18:10:12 dansmith efried: no
18:10:20 dansmith efried: read the reno and commit for reasoning about the multiplier
18:10:39 dansmith efried: it has to compete against disk weigher, which is like scored by mb free or something
18:11:12 dansmith efried: a big multiplier makes it more likely to have an effect, not les
18:11:14 dansmith *less
18:11:18 efried ah
18:11:30 dansmith and the threshold is now just "report failures if nonzero", so it's not a threshold
18:11:57 dansmith if you want it off, set the "threshold" to zero and computes won't even report the number
18:12:13 efried ack
18:12:14 dansmith and if you do, then you tune the multiplier based on whatever else you have configured
18:15:11 efried got it. Thanks dansmith. (And no, mriedem, I'm helping donnyd figure out why his CI hosts get effectively-disabled-without-actually-being-disabled when they spend some time trying to boot with not-yet-ready images)
18:16:07 mriedem :P
18:16:14 mriedem o-)
18:16:16 efried dansmith: save me tracing the code, does it still have the "reset to zero" behavior as soon as we get one success?
18:16:30 dansmith IIRC yes
18:16:47 dansmith efried: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/572195/6/nova/compute/manager.py
18:16:54 donnyd thats pending it ever actually gets rescheduled
18:17:15 donnyd I have enough space that essentially it doesn't
18:17:19 efried yeah
18:17:23 dansmith https://review.opendev.org/#/c/572195/6/nova/compute/stats.py
18:17:30 efried dansmith: is this one of those things that you should theoretically be able to reset via SIGHUP?
18:17:34 dansmith see my FIXME in there
18:17:40 dansmith efried: for sure
18:18:22 efried k. btw, not sure if you saw the update, but between bnemec and me, SIGHUP is (soon to be) fixed.
18:18:38 efried soon as we can get this code merged & released
18:21:53 donnyd What i really need is a faster way to download glance images so this isn't an issue
18:24:13 efried just walk a flash drive across the room
18:24:28 donnyd LOL efried
18:25:31 donnyd Well the glance image store is on an nvme drive that will move at the speed of the rest of the network... however glance doesn't feel that same way, and limits my download speeds to what one core can do... which is about 100M/s
18:25:59 donnyd I think it has something to do with requests if I am not mistaken
18:33:02 sean-k-mooney donnyd: are you useing a 1G network for your managment network
18:33:09 donnyd 10
18:33:19 donnyd and the controllers are all 40
18:33:48 donnyd So on the control plane for the compute side 10, and controller side 40
18:33:55 mriedem donnyd: are you using ceph?
18:33:58 donnyd no
18:34:15 donnyd filestore is the fastest i have measured thus far
18:34:18 melwitt mriedem: just fyi if you didn't see, I updated the multi-cell archive patches yesterday night

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