| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-04-09 | |||
| 11:54:17 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: no. | |
| 11:54:21 | sean-k-mooney | the integration will be almost identical | |
| 11:54:43 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: no it won't. | |
| 11:55:18 | jaypipes | specifically, having to create flavors on the fly | |
| 11:55:23 | sean-k-mooney | well i spend a year modeling it on how ironic worked with minor tweeks | |
| 11:55:29 | sean-k-mooney | jaypipes: that is not required | |
| 11:55:42 | sean-k-mooney | that was a suggesting to make testing eaier | |
| 11:56:05 | sean-k-mooney | the flavor it create just contain the reouces request for the custom_resouce class | |
| 11:56:06 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: I just don't think it's a good idea, sorry. | |
| 11:57:32 | sean-k-mooney | ok but for the record i did bring this idea up at the first denver ptg and the vancour summit to make sure people were ok with it | |
| 11:57:44 | sean-k-mooney | you werent at teh vancour summit | |
| 11:57:55 | sean-k-mooney | but i was pretty sure i ran this by you at some point | |
| 11:59:30 | kashyap | gibi: On your (good) question on the change, please read this spec, too (if you have time). It aims to answer your question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645814/4/specs/train/approved/cpu-selection-with-hypervisor-consideration.rst | |
| 12:01:21 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: OK, but for the record, I've had the exact same position for 4 years since Intel proposed it when I was working for Mirantis. | |
| 12:01:23 | jaypipes | :) | |
| 12:01:40 | jaypipes | and you were working for Intel :) | |
| 12:02:39 | sean-k-mooney | :) ok yes but i guess we have always dissagreed then we never tought vlance was a viable approch in my team | |
| 12:03:01 | gibi | kashyap: ack. There is too many specs :) | |
| 12:03:30 | sean-k-mooney | it lost the cloud abstration meaning existing workloads/workflows needed to be modifyed to know what rsd was | |
| 12:07:25 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: if you think RSD is "cloudy" as opposed to just a tool for operators to reduce power consumption in their datacenters, then I suppose you might think that. | |
| 12:08:06 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: however, I don't. I don't see RSD as anything other than a compute node dynamic composer. I don't see it as the next generation of "packaging" for a workload. | |
| 12:08:34 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: it's hardware, plain and simple. It's not the next Kubernetes abstraction for a new type of workload. | |
| 12:09:03 | sean-k-mooney | yes i agree which is why i think openstacks apis need to be the abstration | |
| 12:09:11 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: we will just have to agree to disagree on this topic :) | |
| 12:09:20 | sean-k-mooney | i think of it as a bearmental hypervior | |
| 12:09:34 | sean-k-mooney | like ironic | |
| 12:13:35 | kashyap | gibi: Hehe, sorry. Yeah, context overload; completely understand it. | |
| 12:14:01 | kashyap | gibi: Take a look at it, on a non-spec day; I'll assume everyone is maxed out today | |
| 12:14:04 | gibi | kashyap: I kept that spec open, but I move by the etherpad order https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-spec-review-day | |
| 12:14:25 | kashyap | (And looking at too many specs parallely will only splinter the attention to hell and back, which is costly.) | |
| 12:18:35 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney: "bearmental hypervior" <-- nice. | |
| 12:19:52 | kashyap | Folks: On line-42 I added a spec I meant to add on 04-Apr (as mentioned on the list to Eric's email on pre-PTG review); didn't post it in the last minute :-) | |
| 12:21:14 | sean-k-mooney | :) | |
| 12:22:30 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Improve test coverage of nova.privsep.path. https://review.openstack.org/648601 | |
| 12:22:38 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Improve test coverage of nova.privsep.fs. https://review.openstack.org/648602 | |
| 12:23:48 | gibi | kashyap: you really want me to read that spec :) | |
| 12:24:13 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Improve test coverage of nova.privsep.fs, continued. https://review.openstack.org/648603 | |
| 12:25:08 | kashyap | gibi: Hehe, the above mentioned line-42 one is about Secure Boot one (which jaypipes reviewed back in the day; before we identified work to be done in lower layers) | |
| 12:25:34 | gibi | kashyap: ohh, I looked at the line 41 instead. | |
| 12:25:54 | gibi | kashyap: anyhow I'm reading the spec at l41 now :) | |
| 12:25:54 | kashyap | gibi: Yep, that is fairly uncontroversial. (Says the guy who proposed it.) | |
| 12:25:57 | kashyap | Thanks! | |
| 12:26:13 | kashyap | I need to be AFK in 35 mins; will respond on the change for any feedback | |
| 12:26:26 | kashyap | jaypipes: If you still have the stomach for it this week, might want to have a gander at the Secure Boot thing, in your "copious free time" :D | |
| 12:27:30 | jaypipes | kashyap: yep, today is spec review day. | |
| 12:37:11 | openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose the spec to allow specifying a list of CPU models https://review.openstack.org/642030 | |
| 12:40:14 | bauzas | kashyap: sean-k-mooney: sorry was afk for lunch | |
| 12:40:22 | bauzas | so I missed your pings | |
| 12:40:32 | bauzas | don't take a -1 for a passive-aggressive method | |
| 12:40:46 | bauzas | it's just "I disagree with the current patch, because of : X, Y" | |
| 12:41:09 | kashyap | bauzas: No worries; it's all sorted | |
| 12:41:12 | bauzas | and my -1 is not about the naming, but rather about the fact that operators should provide a list ordered | |
| 12:41:24 | kashyap | bauzas: Yeah, saw your question; see the response from Sean and me... | |
| 12:41:34 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: yes i know. that is how i use it too. | |
| 12:42:00 | bauzas | I'll look at the comments, for the moment, I'm looking at other spec | |
| 12:48:54 | openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance hard delete https://review.openstack.org/570202 | |
| 12:48:55 | openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova master: Enable rebuild for instances in cell0 https://review.openstack.org/570203 | |
| 12:48:55 | openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova master: Add requested_networks to RequestSpec https://review.openstack.org/570201 | |
| 12:49:50 | openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova master: Allow rebuild for instances in PENDING state https://review.openstack.org/637585 | |
| 12:49:50 | openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/nova master: Introduce the PENDING instance state https://review.openstack.org/566473 | |
| 12:50:48 | efried | kashyap: ack | |
| 12:51:41 | sean-k-mooney | its surpring how often "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/docker/" fixs your docker issues | |
| 12:51:49 | efried | I at least diff from the last release's version before doing that; this one has changed substantially so I'll wait | |
| 12:52:39 | efried | What's the adage? "If you try to solve a problem using docker, now you have two problems." ? | |
| 12:53:47 | efried | Welcome to Train pre-PTG spec review day #1: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-spec-review-day | |
| 12:53:47 | efried | dansmith: Would you please update the channel topic to something like | |
| 13:13:11 | openstackgerrit | Huqiang Wang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Separate the vCPUs into different pools based on priority https://review.openstack.org/649882 | |
| 13:19:53 | openstackgerrit | Dakshina Ilangovan proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Nova LLC allocation - RMD plugin for RDT CAT https://review.openstack.org/651233 | |
| 13:21:29 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: Use migration_status during volume migrating and retyping https://review.openstack.org/637224 | |
| 13:37:26 | kashyap | sean-k-mooney: On "Docker", you're so 2014. 'Everyone' has moved on from Docker to "CRI-O" and "podman", etc. | |
| 13:37:43 | kashyap | (Please update your "container jargon" :D) | |
| 13:38:55 | sean-k-mooney | kashyap: i am using docker and plan to never use podman. i might use CRI-O | |
| 13:39:31 | kashyap | sean-k-mooney: I was massively trolling; sorry. (I have no clue about their compatibilities.) | |
| 13:41:33 | sean-k-mooney | podman has 1:1 commandline compatible with docker | |
| 13:41:44 | sean-k-mooney | or the docker cli | |
| 13:42:16 | sean-k-mooney | cri-o is interesting but its non tivial to setup currently | |
| 13:43:43 | mriedem | mordred: as our resident compute api/sdk opinion czar, i'd like your opinion on this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638629/9/specs/train/approved/add-locked-reason.rst@198 | |
| 13:43:52 | mriedem | specifically the response format for those new fields | |
| 13:44:00 | mriedem | i.e. nested or flat | |
| 13:45:54 | kashyap | gibi: Thanks! (I spent a lot of time wordsmithing to get words right in that spec) | |
| 14:11:03 | mriedem | tssurya: some questions in your ironic power state sync spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636132/ | |
| 14:11:09 | mriedem | dansmith: ^ you should probably review that as well | |
| 14:11:23 | tssurya | mriedem: ack, looking | |
| 14:11:41 | mriedem | jaypipes maybe too since he loves ironic nowadays | |
| 14:12:23 | jaypipes | mriedem: errmmm, not quite :) | |
| 14:12:35 | jaypipes | but I'll review regardless. | |
| 14:15:01 | dansmith | mriedem: on meetings for the next couple hours, but willt ry | |
| 14:22:19 | kashyap | Frelling rST | |
| 14:23:31 | mriedem | gibi: i've replied to your questions in the cross-cell resize re-proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642807/ | |
| 14:23:55 | mriedem | suppose dansmith and melwitt should look at that one as well since they are familiar with the original in stein | |
| 14:26:28 | kashyap | alex_xu: Gosh, it is 22:26. Nothing is more important than sleep... | |
| 14:27:04 | alex_xu | \o/ sleep now | |
| 14:27:27 | mriedem | alex_xu: i still have some chinese cold medicine from the shenzhen airport i can send you :) | |
| 14:27:41 | mriedem | i don't know what it says on the packaging but i know i'm only supposed to take 2 of each every 12 hours | |
| 14:37:13 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'flavor-extra-spec-image-property-validation-extended' spec https://review.openstack.org/638734 | |
| 14:40:25 | stephenfin | kashyap: Fair to say https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625216/ means https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651139/ is unnecessary? | |
| 14:42:38 | kashyap | stephenfin: Just took a cursory look, so they're proposing to expose _tunnelled via REST API. That's baloney | |
| 14:42:49 | kashyap | We don't want _tunnelled at all, we will deprecate it, as you know | |
| 14:43:24 | stephenfin | kashyap: Yup, that's what I was thinking but I just wanted to be sure it was as baloney as I thought it was | |
| 14:43:27 | kashyap | "We" as in, once we bump the min versions to have hypervisor-native TLS, then Nova can nuke _tunnelled support | |