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#openstack-nova - 2019-03-15
12:01:13 kashyap Ah, gotcha; in that sense.
12:02:18 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: docs: cleanup driver parity scope section https://review.openstack.org/643566
12:02:53 kashyap efried: And thanks for reviewing the cache mode change series.
12:03:18 efried kashyap: Sure thing (speaking of bowels of libvirt)
12:03:38 kashyap :-)
12:04:18 kashyap efried: Warning: That SEV spec has _tons_ of hypervisor-related concepts. So expect to sink some 2 hours or more, if you're reading with full concentration
12:04:37 efried this is probably why I never finished it the first time around.
12:04:48 efried I was like, "whoah, this stuff is over my head; I hope kashyap reviews it."
12:04:51 kashyap (And as we speak, there is potentially one more thing to be fixed in libvirt/QEMU; libvirt folks are testing)
12:05:25 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove resize caveat from conductor docs https://review.openstack.org/643567
12:05:44 kashyap efried: I've commented on parts of it; for now you can ignore and tackle other high-prio stuff.
12:06:00 efried thanks
12:06:01 kashyap I still need to review all the firmware / OVMF and other memory requirements stuff.
12:06:07 kashyap Will get to it next week
12:09:29 stephenfin mriedem: wrt all things docs, there's a nice albeit lengthy of all things metadata here that could benefit from your attention https://review.openstack.org/#/c/640730/
12:09:53 mriedem christ almighty
12:10:17 stephenfin blame efried for setting me down that path
12:10:24 stephenfin (PS1 comments)
12:11:10 mriedem i don't see efried commenting in PS1
12:11:18 mriedem i also see dansmith did some review on this...
12:12:13 stephenfin I must have changed the Change-ID at some point (initial version simply added use of :oslo.config:option: to one of the docs)
12:13:23 efried Yeah, I remember you saying this was interesting to me, and glancing at it, and not fully understanding why, and balking at the size of it, and not getting further into it where I might have been able to answer that question.
12:18:24 mriedem we could benefit from some docs on the object version registry, nova object serializer, how objects are registered into that, how backporting of versioned objects works, conductors role in all that stuff, etc
12:25:09 kashyap stephenfin: Heh, on your docs patch, very dansmith-esque rationale: "Dropped a bunch of random comments in here, surely some of them addd up to a -1" :D
12:34:33 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Trivial typo fix for REST API in policy enforcement docs https://review.openstack.org/643569
12:38:23 mdbooth dansmith: You in, yet?
12:38:45 kashyap He should be, it is already 05:40 AM. Too late
12:38:59 mdbooth dansmith: I have confirmed btw that my monkey_patch patch fixes non-wsgi, but not wsgi, and crucially I now understand why
12:40:02 mdbooth It's a good patch, but incomplete. I'm just working on a follow up which I hope should fix everything and bring all our monkey patching hacks into 1 place. I'm happy to keep them separate or merge. Discuss when you get in?
12:40:25 mdbooth kashyap: Heh, for anybody else I wouldn't have bothered to ping at this time ;)
12:40:36 kashyap mdbooth: I know :-) Sorry for trolling
12:41:33 mriedem good god this doc needs updating https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/scheduler-evolution.html
12:41:58 kashyap Does anyone here know if Ubuntu maintains Git repo for their Bionic QEMU packages?
12:42:57 edleafe mriedem: updating or deleting?
12:42:57 openstack Launchpad bug 1819794 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-next job fail on Ubuntu Bionic" [Medium,Confirmed]
12:42:57 kashyap I ask because of this: it seems like a very Ubuntu might've messed something: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1819794
12:43:28 mriedem edleafe: some of the stuff in there still applies
12:43:50 mriedem but just stuff like "The recent NUMA features" that was written 3 years ago isn't so recent anymore
12:44:52 edleafe mriedem: it just seems that the bits that are still relevant don't merit a whole page in the docs. It's also a page that needs to be updated frequently
13:13:58 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Avoid crashing while getting libvirt capabilities with unknown arch names https://review.openstack.org/643458
13:24:03 openstackgerrit Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Fix SSL infinite recursion https://review.openstack.org/626952
13:25:11 openstackgerrit Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Assert that we're monkey patching before importing https://review.openstack.org/643579
13:25:24 efried mordred: dtantsur asked the question about openstacksdk-in-nova via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642899/ -- which had to come up again sooner or later. When you have a minute, would you mind summarizing what would be involved in plumbing nova to use it?
13:26:29 mordred yes. happy to
13:26:33 mordred want me to do it on the review?
13:26:43 openstackgerrit Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: What if we just monkey patched at the top level? https://review.openstack.org/643581
13:33:49 mordred efried, dtantsur: Also - is this a thing you're wanting to squeeze in to stein? or for train?
13:34:14 dtantsur I'd expect Train to avoid surprises
13:34:35 openstack Launchpad bug 1820283 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Scheduler Evolution in nova - the doc needs updating" [Medium,Confirmed]
13:34:35 mriedem edleafe: i just reported a bug so i don't lose track of the issues since i don't have time to work on it - those could all be worked as separate changes by interested contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1820283
13:35:04 efried mordred, dtantsur: Oh, yeah, Train fo sho. This first patch only swaps out one API; the work to hit all of them will be fairly extensive. And possibly warrants a blueprint as well.
13:35:36 dtantsur Which reminds me, I need to implement Baremetal Volume API in openstacksdk..
13:35:37 efried mordred: Here probably better so I can ask questions (like, "whoah, you're assuming I know way more than I actually do")
13:35:58 edleafe mriedem: thanks for recording that. That page needs either a wholesale rewrite or a proper burial
13:40:34 mordred efried: well crap - I just responded to the patch :)
13:40:59 mordred efried: so maybe read that real quick and we can pick it up here
13:52:12 efried mordred: reading now, thanks.
13:55:53 efried mordred: "translating from service name to service type", like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/utils.py#L1197-L1202 ?
13:57:29 mordred efried: yes.
13:57:40 efried so - already done \o/
13:57:42 efried more or less
13:57:53 mordred efried: so - basically what we need is a loop that does what that's doing for all of the service types
13:58:33 mordred efried: and then we need to extract the parameters because the ks_loading.load_auth_from_ ... methods don't make sense in this context
13:58:41 mordred but it would be pretty quick/easy to do
13:58:57 mordred if we're talking train, it should be pretty easy to write the loader method in sdk
13:59:11 efried mordred: And as I understand it, the sdk contains "primitives" that will make e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642899/9/nova/virt/ironic/client_wrapper.py@101 (the node_get method) redundant and unnecessary.
13:59:18 mordred yes, that's right
13:59:52 efried cool.
14:00:06 fried_rice oh yeah ^
14:00:25 fried_rice mordred: a little more on ks_loading_load_*_from conversion, if you please?
14:00:30 mordred efried: as a concrete example -- once you have a conn - you can either do conn.baremetal.get() for direct rest, or you can do conn.baremetal.chassis() to get a list of chassis
14:00:49 fried_rice mordred: ack, that makes sense (abstractly).
14:01:33 mordred fried_rice: yeah. sdk *needs* to be the one constructing the adapter, so it needs to consume those parameters as config input
14:01:42 fried_rice mordred: so right now we are, for all services (except maybe cinder?), doing this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/ironic.py#L114-L115
14:01:49 mordred it would be easier for it to also create the session and auth rather than having the ks_loading code do it
14:02:01 mordred yeah - totally - register_ksa_opts should stay
14:02:32 fried_rice so the ksa opts themselves don't change in the conf? That would be convenient.
14:02:35 mordred we just want to make the sdk be able to get its config from the same opts that ksa is defining
14:02:37 mordred yeah
14:02:53 fried_rice Ah nice. This sounds like a pretty low-surface-area change then, from a plumbing perspective.
14:03:04 mordred I *Think* there is a method call we can use to ask ksa what the opts are - so we should be able to be clever and the method should be pretty small
14:03:07 mordred yeah
14:03:29 fried_rice mordred: Yes, see https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/utils.py#L58
14:03:31 mordred it should be fairly easy - no noticable impact to deployers - and we should be able to delete a bunch of things from nova eventually
14:03:33 fried_rice i.e. we're already doing that.
14:04:03 fried_rice or rather https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/utils.py#L36
14:04:04 mordred yeah - awesome
14:04:21 mordred I can start a patch to sdk to add the conf loader function
14:04:31 fried_rice nice.
14:06:16 mordred I'm excited about this actually - I think it'll wind up being really helpful in both directions
14:06:20 fried_rice mordred: btw, in case you think this is all just serendipity, you helped me write all of that stuff.
14:06:38 fried_rice this is where you get to say things like, "I love it when a plan comes together".
14:07:28 bauzas internal meeting, in case people were looking at me
14:07:35 fried_rice mordred: agreed, there seems to be a lot of support for "get python-*client out of the way", to the point where I almost wonder whether it should be a Train community goal.
14:08:10 fried_rice mordred: I mean, it can be a U community goal, and that shouldn't stop us doing pieces of it in Train
14:08:22 fried_rice but that would get it more attention
14:09:31 mordred fried_rice: yeah - I thnik if we can get the sdk plumbed in and used in the places you're using adapters now (just the adapters on the sdk connection)
14:09:59 mordred then it'll be pretty easy then to pick off transitions one at a time - since the conn will be available and stuff
14:15:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: add python 3.7 unit test job https://review.openstack.org/610694
14:20:01 fried_rice mordred: Well, tbh, the only place we're *actually* using the adapter that I know of is for talking to placement.

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