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#openstack-nova - 2019-02-04
14:51:47 efried ah, the reverse, swhy I couldn't find it. Thanks stephenfin
14:51:52 mriedem stephenfin: ack i'll switch the blueprint to you
15:02:42 efried stephenfin: I thought there was a way to omit link text and it would automatically suck in the title of the target. Am I making that up?
15:17:58 stephenfin efried: Only if you're using referencing something from the same doc (i.e. the normal 'doc' role)
15:18:19 mriedem dansmith: on this per-instance serial number change, which now does what you asked for, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619953/ - do you have any additional comments to what i already put in there? mine are mostly nits. kevin is out this week on holiday so if there are small changes i can make them. today is the last day for that one in a runway slot.
15:19:13 dansmith mriedem: let me get a refill and I'll have a look
15:19:54 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add native implementation OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/482226
15:27:18 efried stephenfin: ack, thanks.
15:27:31 efried and, that makes sense; otherwise, how would it know?
15:33:31 mriedem dansmith: jaypipes: thanks on both, i'll work on follow ups this morning
15:34:00 openstackgerrit Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Flavor extra spec and image properties validation https://review.openstack.org/620706
15:46:10 tinwood dansmith, would it be possible, please, for you to take a quick look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633279/ thanks.
15:52:48 spatel sean-k-mooney: morning!
15:53:36 sean-k-mooney spatel: o/
15:53:53 spatel its been long time so thought "wave"
15:54:25 sean-k-mooney spatel: hopefully that means your cloud has been working to expectations
15:54:35 spatel i was busy in datacenter migration stuff.. but so far everything good
15:55:19 spatel My cloud is blooming...! +400 instance total and growing..
15:55:20 sean-k-mooney spatel: see now you have doomed yourself by saying that. but glad to hear
15:56:18 spatel Soon planning to build new cloud.. not sure how much i can stuff in existing one.
15:56:23 sean-k-mooney it will be interesting to hear form you in 12-18 month as to if it proved more cost effective vs aws in the long run
15:57:31 spatel Believe me... its very cost effective... + my 50% datacenter is empty because i am stuffing application as much as possible in cloud
15:58:23 sean-k-mooney spatel: and you are achiving the perfomance KPI that are needed for your workload?
15:58:46 sean-k-mooney i assume you are till using sriov
15:58:53 sean-k-mooney *still
15:58:59 spatel interesting thing.. we are running real-time application in very latency sensitive environment :) got very good feedback from customer also :)
15:59:19 spatel Yes everything in sriov ( next cloud going to be on dpdk )
16:00:04 sean-k-mooney well make sure to build a small test clust to verify its performacne before you make that switch
16:00:13 spatel we are providing close to HD audio quality with sr-iov
16:00:46 spatel ++ (will do lab test before go)
16:01:15 sean-k-mooney spatel: by the way you will be happy to know https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/libvirt-neutron-sriov-livemigration is makeing good progress
16:01:57 spatel + boy... that would be my dream to do live-migration over SR-IOV
16:02:32 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: link admin/configuration from admin home page https://review.openstack.org/634728
16:02:34 sean-k-mooney spatel: be aware that for direct mode sriov there is still a network outage unless you create a bond in the guest
16:03:08 spatel bonding in guest is other complicated project :(
16:03:44 sean-k-mooney spatel: this is basically the first step in sriov migratoin. for macvtap sriov it will be complete.
16:04:25 sean-k-mooney for direct mode sriov there are some upcoming feature in the kernel/kvm and in vendor nics that may help
16:04:26 spatel macvtap isn't good, i did try and got packet drops during load-test
16:04:34 sean-k-mooney ya
16:05:17 sean-k-mooney the ida would be you would bound a direct mode and macvtap vf together and fall back to the macvtap during migration and then swithc back to direct mode vf
16:05:40 spatel oh!!! that is sweet!
16:06:24 spatel i don't mind small downtime during live-migration as far as it meet SLA
16:07:06 spatel Do you think it will be ready in stain release ?
16:07:42 sean-k-mooney openstack wont do the bonding for you but i hope we will merge the migration support in stein yes
16:08:01 spatel cool!
16:08:22 sean-k-mooney spatel: currently the code is complete so we are just waiting for a runway slot and reviewer feedback at this point.
16:09:02 spatel I don't have any lab at present otherwise i love to do some testing..
16:09:58 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: link Kashyap's cpu model talk to the libvirt driver config docs https://review.openstack.org/634731
16:09:59 mriedem kashyap: ^ nice talk
16:10:39 kashyap mriedem: Hi, thanks! /me practised it 4 times to a rubber duck
16:10:51 kashyap On a call; meetings--
16:11:19 mriedem kashyap: it showed that you practiced it, very smooth
16:11:25 kashyap BTW, on Sunday ran into The Tuba Guy at FOSDEM. He happened to be sitting right behind me
16:11:25 mriedem but you were soooo thirsty
16:11:42 kashyap mriedem: Darn, there is a story behind that water bottle trick
16:12:19 kashyap Back when I was in university, some 12 years ago, I had to give my first public talk on USB 3.0 or something...
16:12:35 kashyap And my throat completely dried out, and the teacher insulted me in front of the whole class:
16:12:43 kashyap Saying ... "What kind of a talk is that?!"
16:12:53 kashyap Never forget that experience
16:13:11 kashyap But more to the bottle: I use it as a trick to forcefully "pause" myself
16:13:15 kashyap And not drone on-and-on.
16:13:31 kashyap s/bottle/water bottle/
16:26:23 bauzas ok, bailing out from upstream after 3 hours working on it \o
16:26:36 bauzas https://twitter.com/sylvainbauza/status/1092426500434022402
16:27:01 bauzas at least I dedicated 3 hours for nova since 2 weeks...
16:28:01 sean-k-mooney bauzas: the vpn outage proably helped somewhat today
16:28:20 bauzas sean-k-mooney: not really, I planned to work for 3 hours anyway
16:29:07 bauzas I thought about this from the last weekend
16:29:19 sean-k-mooney i planned to start backpoting something and did some code review upstream instead
16:29:28 sean-k-mooney bauzas: its a good idea
16:29:33 bauzas and finally I think I very need to say "sorry but I need to work upstream *now*'
16:29:43 artom sean-k-mooney, to answer your downstream channel question, yeah, more work is required to actually generate the new XML
16:29:49 bauzas because if not, there will be some other priorities again and again
16:29:56 artom The claims are used to get the new instance NUMA topology
16:30:49 sean-k-mooney artom: are they actully used currently. i was not sure they were actully being used yet in the code you have pused.
16:31:06 artom sean-k-mooney, they're not used yet, no
16:31:32 sean-k-mooney artom: ok because the titile of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634606/ consufed me a little
16:31:49 artom I mean, when creating the claim, the new instance NUMA topology is calculated, so it should throw a resources unavailable exception if it can't fit
16:32:03 artom But then that new topology isn't used anywhere (yet)
16:32:20 sean-k-mooney artom: ya that makes sense
16:32:35 artom sean-k-mooney, hrmm, yeah, maybe I'll rephrase it as "create claims" or something
16:32:44 artom Since as you correctly pointed out, they're not actually used
16:33:05 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: update the security groups admin doc https://review.openstack.org/634735
16:33:28 sean-k-mooney ya i spend about 10-15 mins looking to see if they were actully used idrectly some how then my vpn dropped and i got tea
16:34:05 artom So British (yes, I know you're Irish)
16:34:22 sean-k-mooney those be fighting words :P
16:34:33 artom There's no "UK" adjective!
16:34:45 sean-k-mooney ireland is not in the uk
16:34:52 artom *facepalm*
16:34:57 artom You're right, of course.
16:35:04 kashyap mriedem: If I spend this week on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632507/ ([WIP] libvirt: Bump MIN_{LIBVIRT,QEMU}_VERSION for "Stein"), and related clean-ups -- worth getting in before M3?
16:35:51 artom There's no adjective for "those tea-guzzling bastids" then :D
16:36:07 sean-k-mooney hehe :)
16:37:32 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Change nova-next job to run with python3 https://review.openstack.org/634739
16:39:00 mriedem kashyap: idk, i generally like to raise minimums at the beginning of the cycle
16:39:08 mriedem if we're going to raise minimums
16:40:24 mriedem an operator that was upgrading recently asked me if the last time we raised minimums (in queens i think) was because of any functional reason or just code cleanup since it meant they had a harder upgrade (new centos versions and such on their compute nodes)
16:41:25 mriedem they were also upgrading from mitaka though i think so likely going to have some of that (OS upgrades etc)
16:42:26 kashyap mriedem: Yeah, you're totally right -- I completely forgot at the beginning of the cycle about this :-(
16:42:27 stephenfin mriedem, sean-k-mooney: This feels like something that would warrant a reno given the change in behavior. Thoughts? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626381

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