| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-01-10 | |||
| 14:00:51 | stephenfin | You might add it to that page I linked, if you find the time | |
| 14:00:53 | kashyap | stephenfin: Ha! I read the doc buried in the doc -- https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/service-project-naming.html | |
| 14:01:12 | stephenfin | ahh | |
| 14:01:14 | stephenfin | cool :) | |
| 14:01:19 | kashyap | I wonder what else are we doing in the name of "lowering cognitive overhead". There's a time and place for it | |
| 14:01:26 | kashyap | But not with proper nouns. Haha | |
| 14:01:42 | jangutter | "openstack: The meeting name has been set to 'nova' " <---- shouldn't that be "OpenStack: The meeting name has been set to 'Nova' " ? | |
| 14:02:18 | kashyap | jangutter: Heh, there the bot is called 'openstack'; so in that context it's OK :D | |
| 14:03:09 | jangutter | kashyap: hehehe, it's just the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon | |
| 14:04:34 | jaypipes | alex_xu: feel free to send https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612255/ along | |
| 14:04:55 | openstackgerrit | Maciej Jozefczyk proposed openstack/nova master: Add fill_virtual_interface_list online_data_migration script https://review.openstack.org/614167 | |
| 14:06:34 | alex_xu | jaypipes: done | |
| 14:06:44 | openstackgerrit | Maciej Jozefczyk proposed openstack/nova master: Force refresh instance info_cache during heal https://review.openstack.org/591607 | |
| 14:07:31 | stephenfin | bauzas: You think https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-neutron-sriov-livemigration is something you could revisit today? | |
| 14:08:22 | stephenfin | and maybe jaypipes, for the first time? ^ | |
| 14:08:44 | stephenfin | I ask because I have reviewed most of the implementation, and it's pretty straightforward. Also, it's a long time bugbear of mine | |
| 14:09:11 | jaypipes | ack. will get to that shortly stephenfin | |
| 14:09:19 | stephenfin | thank you sir | |
| 14:11:30 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Fail to live migration if instance has a NUMA topology https://review.openstack.org/629597 | |
| 14:19:17 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: add 'show-server-group' spec https://review.openstack.org/612255 | |
| 14:20:26 | yonglihe | alex_xu, Jay, thanks. Have a good one. | |
| 14:20:44 | kashyap | stephenfin: Is a single back-tick OK here: :oslo.config:option:`libvirt.live_migration_with_native_tls` | |
| 14:20:49 | kashyap | Or does it require a double back-tick? | |
| 14:20:52 | stephenfin | single | |
| 14:21:00 | stephenfin | double is only used for literals | |
| 14:21:16 | stephenfin | single backticks means "default role", which is configurable but defaults to italics | |
| 14:21:32 | stephenfin | single backticks without the :xyz: prefix for an explicit role | |
| 14:21:46 | kashyap | stephenfin: I see, thanks for the education. | |
| 14:25:40 | kashyap | stephenfin: One last English nit-pick: you suggest "commas" in the place of em-dash, e.g. look at point 2 in the "Prerequisites" section: http://logs.openstack.org/27/629627/2/check/openstack-tox-docs/dc52e37/html/admin/secure-live-migration-with-qemu-native-tls.html | |
| 14:26:00 | stephenfin | yup? | |
| 14:26:02 | kashyap | It makes sense to retain that there. | |
| 14:26:21 | kashyap | Because the content between the em-dashes can also be used in brackets, _or_ two commas. | |
| 14:27:17 | stephenfin | kashyap: True, em dash ~= comma | |
| 14:27:26 | stephenfin | but I tend to see them used more for asides | |
| 14:27:28 | kashyap | Sure. | |
| 14:27:45 | stephenfin | something not directly related to the main sentence | |
| 14:27:53 | stephenfin | i.e. | |
| 14:27:54 | kashyap | In this case I've used it in place of two commas (which is also used for bracketed content) | |
| 14:28:23 | stephenfin | I was on the way home, driving on the motorway, when I saw a cat | |
| 14:28:25 | stephenfin | vs. | |
| 14:28:45 | stephenfin | I was on the way home -- a needless endeavour, it turned out -- when I saw a cat | |
| 14:29:04 | stephenfin | I don't know if that's correct, but that's how _I've_ done it :) | |
| 14:29:11 | kashyap | Hehe, I see your point there | |
| 14:29:14 | kashyap | But, in this case: | |
| 14:29:16 | kashyap | "A pre-configured TLS environment—i.e. CA, server, and client certificates, their file permissions, et al—must be “correctly” configured (typically by an installer tool) on all relevant compute nodes." | |
| 14:29:19 | jaypipes | kashyap: em-dash ftw. | |
| 14:29:24 | stephenfin | fair :) | |
| 14:29:27 | kashyap | Replacing those em-dashes with more commas is fugly | |
| 14:29:29 | jaypipes | stephenfin: :P | |
| 14:29:31 | kashyap | I can use brackets, though. | |
| 14:29:54 | stephenfin | Just space them out either side and I'm happy (not sure if that's correct but it's tough to read otherwise) | |
| 14:30:02 | stephenfin | jaypipes: I blame asettle | |
| 14:30:22 | jaypipes | heh :) | |
| 14:30:24 | kashyap | stephenfin: Haha, you know ... I have read the literature on the _spacing_ too | |
| 14:30:40 | kashyap | stephenfin: When the doc is rendered, a space between two em-dashes attract too much attention to the em-dash iself. | |
| 14:30:43 | kashyap | s/iself/itself/ | |
| 14:30:48 | kashyap | See the fine point? :D | |
| 14:31:06 | kashyap | That was also a conscious (and consistent) choice throughout the doc | |
| 14:31:37 | stephenfin | :D | |
| 14:31:37 | kashyap | But if you insist, you know, in the name of civility I will happily add the spaces (consistently through out) :-) | |
| 14:31:53 | kashyap | stephenfin: I don't joke when I say I take my English seriously :D | |
| 14:32:09 | stephenfin | Noted :D | |
| 14:32:24 | kashyap | Sorry, if I'm taxing your brain. I like these pedantics, I know you do, too. | |
| 14:32:27 | jangutter | kasyap: obligatory https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/third_way.png | |
| 14:33:06 | kashyap | stephenfin: I dislike the past tense :-( | |
| 14:33:30 | kashyap | The team no longer exists now? And all docs are taken care of by relavant components? | |
| 14:34:42 | stephenfin | Still there but only for things like the contributor guide that don't have a home elsewhere | |
| 14:34:43 | kashyap | jangutter: Two spaces after a period is, of course, the correct thing. It gives the brain a "breathing room" between the sentences, dammit. | |
| 14:35:04 | kashyap | stephenfin: I see. But I can still enjoy working on the Nova docs to my heart's content | |
| 14:35:10 | kashyap | stephenfin: LOL, I know your view on that | |
| 14:35:28 | jangutter | kashyap: Them's fighting words. | |
| 14:42:45 | edleafe | kashyap: I like how the iPhone settled it. You type two spaces, and it inserts a period and a single space. :) | |
| 14:44:39 | jangutter | One day, someone's going to add a small piece of code to lint the spaces after a period in doc8 and it will trigger World War III. | |
| 14:46:43 | adrianc | jaypipes: Hi, ive been working with sean-k-mooney on enabling live-migration with SR-IOV, it would be great if you could add this to your review queue. | |
| 14:47:13 | jaypipes | adrianc: it's the next one in my list. | |
| 14:47:32 | gibi | melwitt: FYI On the today's meeting stephenfin and I agreed that the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/fix-reschedule-up-calls is good to go for Stein but as no other cores was present I haven't approved the bp yet. | |
| 14:47:33 | kashyap | edleafe: Heh | |
| 14:47:54 | kashyap | edleafe: Didn't know that; /me doesn' want to put more cash in Apple's bank :D | |
| 14:47:55 | adrianc | jaypipes, thanks :) | |
| 14:59:56 | stephenfin | adrianc: finished reviewing the stack of changes and spec. Ping me if there's anything else to do | |
| 15:00:05 | sean-k-mooney | i see stephenfin has corrected my grammer hehe | |
| 15:00:22 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: I had to leave _some_ comments ;) | |
| 15:00:39 | stephenfin | emphasis on "none of which matter that much unless you have to rework" though | |
| 15:01:02 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: ill wait for jaypipes to finish and i can quickly resping or i can submig a follow up pacth with the cleanup which ever suits | |
| 15:01:46 | adrianc | stephenfin: ack thank you, will review. | |
| 15:02:40 | openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Secure live migration with QEMU-native TLS https://review.openstack.org/629627 | |
| 15:12:52 | kashyap | Darn, one last thing to fix, the ".. note::" indentation | |
| 15:16:35 | openstackgerrit | Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Secure live migration with QEMU-native TLS https://review.openstack.org/629627 | |
| 15:41:13 | kashyap | dansmith: When you have a spare minute, as promised (with even a nice +2 on it), the doc patch: http://logs.openstack.org/27/629627/4/check/openstack-tox-docs/5bc0591/html/admin/secure-live-migration-with-qemu-native-tls.html | |
| 15:42:02 | kashyap | dansmith: It is also revised and corrected as thoroughly as I could (and the back-and-forth on the review shows it, I hope) :-) | |
| 15:42:15 | kashyap | (For convenience, here's the review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629627/4) | |
| 15:42:31 | dansmith | kashyap: yeah I know, I've gotten the notifications, just have stuff to do this morning before I get to it | |
| 15:42:42 | kashyap | stephenfin: Thanks for the quick turn around | |
| 15:43:13 | kashyap | dansmith: Ah, didn't know you follow those notifications. On IRC, I follow the "explicit is better than implicit" principle :-) | |
| 15:44:40 | kashyap | It can wait until your morning tasks are done, so long as it doesn't miss the BP-Approvals deadline. | |
| 15:51:46 | mnaser | kashyap: that's a pretty sweet doc patch. | |
| 15:51:58 | kashyap | mnaser: Thanks :-) | |
| 15:52:14 | mnaser | i'm going to try and work up some openstack ansible patches which allow setting tls config | |
| 15:52:30 | kashyap | mnaser: Cool; do post a URL here when you get around to it | |
| 15:52:35 | mnaser | we have a full pki so switching this on and replacing it should be straightforward, will do | |