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#openstack-nova - 2018-10-19
19:29:29 openstack Launchpad bug 1798787 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Installation help documentation is incorrect - verify & nova-consoleauth" [Medium,Triaged]
19:30:26 mriedem the install guide tells you to verify nova-consoleauth is running but we don't tell you to install/start it
19:30:30 mriedem b/c that part was removed in rocky
19:31:05 melwitt gah
19:32:14 cdent Is there a bug that is associated with provider tree cache problems discussed above?
19:32:23 mriedem cdent: not that i'm aware of
19:32:31 mriedem i think awaugama hit it in QE
19:33:02 awaugama yeah verifying vcpu weighter feature
19:33:22 cdent awaugama: are you making a bug? If so I want to be sure to follow along
19:33:57 awaugama cdent, I will next week. I need to reinstall my system (did another feature test in the meantime) so I'll need to recollect logs
19:34:08 mriedem is this a tripleo system that takes 3 days?
19:34:17 SteelyDan heh
19:34:26 cdent great, thanks awaugama
19:34:55 mriedem btw, speaking of tripleo
19:34:55 awaugama mriedem: I can probably get it repro'd by EOD Tuesday
19:34:57 awaugama but yeah
19:35:24 mriedem who from the red hat nova cabal can add nova-status upgrade check to tripleo?
19:35:36 mriedem owalsh: ^?
19:35:42 SteelyDan or mschuppert
19:36:04 awaugama yeah one of those two is the nova deployment guy
19:36:52 awaugama their specialty is based on the need
19:38:08 openstackgerrit Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform scheduler.select_destinations notification https://review.openstack.org/508506
19:38:25 sean-k-mooney awaugama: and the fact that everyone else avoid using tripleo to deploy our dev envs if we can
19:41:13 awaugama fair enough
19:41:35 mriedem SteelyDan: oooo guess what just rotated in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9Xk-VoGqo
19:41:41 SteelyDan nice
19:42:16 SteelyDan I enjoyed when this rotated in for me this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCdKBHdPz30
19:43:20 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Don't persist RequestSpec.requested_destination https://review.openstack.org/611939
19:43:20 openstack bug 1797580 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NoValidHost during live migration after cold migrating to a specified host" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797580 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)
19:43:20 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Add regression test for bug 1797580 https://review.openstack.org/611938
19:44:08 mriedem i know i'd never do it without the fez on
19:44:14 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Minimal construct plumbing for nova list when a cell is down https://review.openstack.org/567785
19:44:14 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Modify get_by_cell_and_project() to get_not_deleted_by_cell_and_projects() https://review.openstack.org/607663
19:44:15 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Return a minimal construct for nova show when a cell is down https://review.openstack.org/591658
19:44:15 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor scatter-gather utility to return exception objects https://review.openstack.org/607934
19:44:16 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Return a minimal construct for nova service-list when a cell is down https://review.openstack.org/584829
19:44:18 SteelyDan heck no
19:44:50 melwitt never heard of either of those. I only know the major steely dan hits
19:45:13 mriedem kid charlemagne is a major hit
19:45:17 mriedem all the major dudes know that
19:45:18 SteelyDan well,
19:45:28 SteelyDan she probably means like reelin' in the years and rikki
19:45:29 melwitt major dudes??
19:45:31 SteelyDan and dirty work
19:45:39 melwitt yeah and like NO STATIC AT ALLLL
19:45:41 mriedem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kND8TRZap8Y
19:45:53 SteelyDan like floyd, the major hits are not very representative of the larger work
19:45:56 melwitt and hey nineteen
19:46:05 melwitt and deacon blues
19:46:40 melwitt lol, of course it was a reference to another song I don't know
19:47:12 mriedem when the sax solo from FM comes on in the car, i always yell at the girls to quit down and crank it way up
19:47:16 mriedem obnoxiously so
19:47:24 mriedem *quiet
19:47:30 SteelyDan heh
19:47:33 melwitt as one does
19:47:54 sean-k-mooney mriedem: oh i actully have heard the last link you posted before
19:55:28 openstack bug 1797580 in OpenStack Compute (nova) rocky "NoValidHost during live migration after cold migrating to a specified host" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797580 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)
19:55:28 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug 1797580 https://review.openstack.org/610088
19:56:13 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add regression test for bug 1797580 https://review.openstack.org/611944
19:56:14 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Don't persist RequestSpec.requested_destination https://review.openstack.org/611945
19:57:17 mriedem SteelyDan: remember this? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4310
19:57:50 melwitt wah wah
19:57:54 mriedem it's pretty safe to assume that all cold/live migrations are migration-based allocations now right?
19:58:01 mriedem b/c that was added to compute in queens
19:58:25 mriedem i'm wondering if we can start rolling those compat shims back, including https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conductor/tasks/migrate.py#L102
19:58:33 mriedem and just assume compute is new enough to always send a migration record
19:58:41 mriedem and do that hot swap action
19:59:07 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Use oslo_db.sqlalchemy.test_fixtures https://review.openstack.org/609352
19:59:24 mriedem i think that's also safe because of https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L716
19:59:26 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/574104
19:59:29 mriedem we're unconditionally sending the migration record
19:59:44 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/574106
19:59:45 SteelyDan mriedem: yeah
19:59:51 SteelyDan mriedem: I leave those TODOs for others
19:59:57 mriedem tl;dr i would like to rip that code out before landing gibi's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606050/ which breaks resize to same host allocatoins if we don't have the source allocations on the migration record
20:00:02 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (5) https://review.openstack.org/574110
20:00:16 mriedem ok cool
20:00:26 mriedem the other thing with that was caching scheduler which is also queued up for death
20:00:34 melwitt that would be a funny TODO. "TODO(dan): Other people remove this in Rocky"
20:00:44 mriedem SteelyDan: i have ont yet
20:00:45 SteelyDan melwitt: next time. I promise.
20:00:45 mriedem *not yet
20:00:53 melwitt awesome
20:01:06 SteelyDan whoa, errant /me in there, sorry
20:03:03 cfriesen ephemeral disks are supposed to last the life of the instance, right?
20:03:49 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Don't persist RequestSpec.requested_destination https://review.openstack.org/610098
20:04:46 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: yes and know
20:05:04 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: i dont know if they are ment to be copied if we move the guest or not
20:05:31 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: they are ment to exsits for the life of an insntace on a singel host definetly.
20:06:14 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: resize is totally undefiend what happens. live/coldmigrate i think we copy them but havent checked that is just my intuition
20:07:13 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: similarly for shelve unshelve not sure we persit tiem. it might be driver specific
20:07:55 cfriesen sean-k-mooney: hmm...I think this wording in the compute API has changed since I looked at it: "Ephemeral disks may be written over on server state changes. So should only be used as a scratch space for applications that are aware of its limitations."
20:09:18 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: ya root disk will be perserved obviourly but adtionl epheral disk i think its totally up to the driver on what state chages they are preserved and when they are recreated
20:09:37 SteelyDan sean-k-mooney: I don't think any of those things are right
20:09:59 SteelyDan I don't think it's well defined at all, but the original assumption was that you couldn't even rely on them across start/stop cycles on your instance
20:10:26 cfriesen VM instance. When a VM is terminated, all data on the ephemeral disk is lost."
20:10:26 cfriesen on the other hand, nova/doc/source/user/flavors.rst says "Ephemeral disks offer machine local disk storage linked to the lifecycle of a
20:10:29 sean-k-mooney SteelyDan: from an api persectiv i would totally aggree.
20:11:18 sean-k-mooney cfriesen: yes but terminated is not stopped
20:11:30 cfriesen okay...I had been thinking that they were supposed to be preserved over everything except termination.

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