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#openstack-nova - 2018-10-15
20:39:23 cfriesen well, each vendor ID is unique, but I think product IDs are only unique within a given vendor
20:40:31 cfriesen but we may be lucky and not have overlap for commonly-used devices.
20:48:18 edleafe efried: don't put too much weight on the name 'trait'. That itself was a compromise betwee those who wanted them named 'capability' and those who wanted 'tag'
20:48:31 edleafe efried: It was always supposed to represent capabilities
20:51:43 efried I'll certainly admit that if they were called 'capabilities' I would not argue as strongly to put stuff like product IDs in them.
20:51:56 efried But they ain't.
20:52:09 efried Juliet had something to say about this. And look how that turned out.
20:53:58 edleafe "A capability by any other name would still generate semantic arguments..."
20:53:59 cfriesen so where are we at for HPET (and vTPM)? I'd suggest that for vTPM it's actually a capability since it depends on hypervisor version and such. For HPET it's two things: 1) asking for it where currently it's turned off unconditionally, and 2) maybe allowing operators to refuse to provide it.
20:54:50 mriedem cfriesen: my current question on the hpet spec is who sets the trait
20:55:10 mriedem i assumed it was set externally but was told the virt driver would set it, so started pulling the thread of how the virt driver would set it since that wasn't in the spec
20:56:36 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: don't log error if guest gone during interface detach https://review.openstack.org/610727
20:57:29 cfriesen mriedem: so as far as I know the LibvirtDriver when used with qemu/kvm could unconditionally set it, unless we want to add a config option to allow operators to explicitly enable it.
20:57:47 cfriesen mriedem: with qemu it seems to be purely emulated, unrelated to the host capabilities
20:58:01 cfriesen with other hypervisors I have no idea
20:58:21 cfriesen presumably with LXC or Xen it might use the real HPET
20:58:49 mriedem i don't really care about lxc honestly, we don't test it
21:04:52 mriedem lyarwood: methinks you have duplicate forum sessions https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=yarwood
21:10:54 cfriesen mriedem: dansmith: looks like this was the original reason why HPET was removed unconditionally from x86 guests: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/add-no-hpet-option-into-guest-clock
21:41:59 lbragstad is anyone here planning on going to https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/#day=2018-11-13 ?
21:42:09 lbragstad sorry - wrong link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22785/change-of-ownership-of-resources
21:42:58 lbragstad i noticed it's at the same time as the project update
21:45:53 efried which project update?
21:46:38 lbragstad nova's
21:47:34 mriedem artom: and i've left comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587439/
21:47:35 mriedem as requested
21:52:03 mriedem lbragstad: yes i plan on going to that, and assume dansmith will also
21:52:33 dansmith yarp
21:52:58 lbragstad ok - so that over the project update i assume?
21:53:28 lbragstad nova's project update*
21:54:25 mriedem ask melwitt
21:54:36 mriedem i'd like to heckle at both
21:54:37 mriedem if possible
21:55:18 lbragstad same - minus the heckling
21:56:30 mriedem stephenfin has a presentation at the same time too
21:56:39 mriedem https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22582/how-to-double-the-performance-of-vswitch-based-deployments
21:57:34 mriedem hmm, for some reason my schedule isn't showing me all the things i've marked either..
21:57:59 lbragstad ?
21:58:09 mriedem oh nvm
21:58:18 lbragstad did you turn it off and back on again?
21:58:25 mriedem switching between days and tracks
21:58:37 mriedem i jiggled the handle
22:06:40 artom mriedem, much thanks! Supper time for me now, but I'll try to address both patches before sleep
22:20:17 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Move live_migration.pre.start to the start of the method https://review.openstack.org/610739
22:25:40 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Reject forced move with nested source allocation https://review.openstack.org/605785
22:25:58 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Run negative server moving tests with nested RPs https://review.openstack.org/604125
22:26:38 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Handle allocations consuming only from the child RPs https://review.openstack.org/608298
22:30:56 mriedem dansmith: you probably want to get these pike backports of that host aggregate case name revert thing https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1709260+(status:open)
23:24:04 alex_xu melwitt: I'm good at Oct 23
23:48:32 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Handle volume API failure in _post_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/609517
#openstack-nova - 2018-10-16
00:08:33 melwitt alex_xu: ack, thanks
00:48:29 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Ensure attachment cleanup on failure in driver.pre_live_migration https://review.openstack.org/587439
02:45:06 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in virt/test_block_device.py https://review.openstack.org/566153
03:37:43 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Add support for microversion 2.67: BDMv2 volume_type https://review.openstack.org/609743
07:37:17 bauzas good morning nova
07:40:06 openstackgerrit Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Extend host_info to cover port profiles https://review.openstack.org/610636
08:01:00 dpawlik morning
08:01:15 dpawlik quick question: why nova service-list shows me ID instead of UUID ?
08:13:38 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Handle missing marker during online data migration https://review.openstack.org/608572
08:29:05 fghaas kashyap: taking the liberty to follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609788 which you asked me to take a stab on. If you could give that a read to make sure that I didn't chuck in anything stupid, I'd be grateful. Thanks!
08:30:52 kashyap fghaas: Hey
08:31:09 kashyap fghaas: I did see the email, and even partly reviewed it. But was buried in preparing a conference talk
08:31:17 kashyap (Also incidentally related to CPU models)
08:31:32 kashyap fghaas: I'll definitely look at it by EOD, I have it open. Sorry for the delay
08:31:43 fghaas I'm so surprised that your conf talk would be about *that*, of all things. ;)
08:31:52 kashyap Heh
08:32:02 kashyap Will you be in Edinburgh?
08:32:11 kashyap (Open Source Summit & KVM Forum)
08:33:05 fghaas No I won't. They waitlisted my talk, but it didn't get in.
08:33:34 fghaas But I will be in Berlin assuming you're headed there.
08:34:03 dpawlik nvm about my question. I didn't saw that there is nova and nova_legacy service type
08:34:20 kashyap fghaas: Yeah, will be there
08:34:46 fghaas Perfect. I still owe you dinner or at least a drink for your help with nesting and migration.
08:47:10 kashyap fghaas: No, don't be crazy
08:47:21 kashyap :-)
08:47:38 kashyap fghaas: Did a quick review, posted a couple of comments. Looks largely good.
08:48:52 kashyap (And yes, a drink in Berlin does sound good.)
08:50:53 fghaas oh, beamer. That's something my little brain is incapable of grasping. :)
08:51:19 kashyap fghaas: I hate myself for the amount of time I spend on it. But I love its typography
08:51:27 kashyap And the TikZ diagramming is so clean, nothing comes close to it.
08:51:36 kashyap But I'm not just super fast with it. Maybe in a few years
09:02:58 fghaas kashyap: reveal.js plus draw.io is my drug of choice.
09:03:27 fghaas Replied to your comments. Sorry for putting on my difficult tech writer hat. :)
09:04:13 kashyap The day I get fed up w/ TeX+TikZ, I'll consider the alternatives :-)
09:05:03 kashyap And nit-picky tech writer hat is good, I appreciate it.
09:06:26 kashyap fghaas: Aah, some of the text was already pre-exisiting. I should've realized it. Will respond in a few
09:06:56 fghaas No rush at all. If we can get this sorted within the week, I'm happy.
09:30:14 openstackgerrit Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Do not call linux_net.delete_net_dev on Windows https://review.openstack.org/610916
09:31:40 jangutter Is anyone familiar enough with Hyper-V functionality to check for a better way of doing ^ ?
09:33:09 openstackgerrit Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Extend host_info to cover port profiles https://review.openstack.org/610636
09:44:32 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Add an online migration for PciDevice.uuid https://review.openstack.org/530905
09:44:32 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Modify PciDevice.uuid generation code https://review.openstack.org/530487
09:47:30 ShilpaSD mriedem: Hi
09:48:50 openstack Launchpad bug 1784020 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Shared storage providers are not supported and will break things if used" [Medium,Fix released]
09:48:50 ShilpaSD mriedem: Guide me how to reprodiuce cold migrate issue mentioned at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1784020 in section 2. b)
09:56:16 openstackgerrit Florian Haas proposed openstack/nova master: Explain cpu_model_extra_flags and nested guest support https://review.openstack.org/609788
09:57:11 openstackgerrit Florian Haas proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Explain cpu_model_extra_flags and nested guest support https://review.openstack.org/609790
09:59:29 openstackgerrit Florian Haas proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Explain cpu_model_extra_flags and nested guest support https://review.openstack.org/609789
10:01:22 openstackgerrit Jan Gutter proposed openstack/os-vif master: Do not call linux_net.delete_net_dev on Windows https://review.openstack.org/610916
10:02:04 openstackgerrit Florian Haas proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Explain cpu_model_extra_flags and nested guest support https://review.openstack.org/609790

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