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#openstack-nova - 2018-09-03
08:57:42 openstackgerrit Matthew Thode proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Don't use '_TransactionContextManager._async' https://review.openstack.org/597421
09:11:58 openstackgerrit Chen proposed openstack/nova master: Fix SOFT_DELETE vm_state string https://review.openstack.org/598482
09:23:57 prometheanfire this isn't helping, for some reason re-running the service isn't using the file I just changed, wtf
09:24:36 prometheanfire https://gist.githubusercontent.com/prometheanfire/76b31b592b1780a72b32c289ab1bfb06/raw/b58c80c3d22860397781c53915d7350d6dbe0bab/gistfile1.txt
09:25:00 prometheanfire but async_ isn't defined at all on that line anymore, I editited it to be async
09:25:17 prometheanfire anyone have any idea where that's cached?
09:28:01 prometheanfire I've removed any pycache files I could find
09:30:38 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: guest: introduce blockStats instead of domain.blockStats https://review.openstack.org/526833
09:55:11 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Making instance listing skipping down cells configurable https://review.openstack.org/592428
10:00:15 openstackgerrit Sujeet Banerjee proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Added a periodic task for network management. https://review.openstack.org/599338
10:15:14 prometheanfire well, it looks like https://review.openstack.org/597421 may not be the right fix
11:23:28 gibi o/
11:27:09 sean-k-mooney gibi: o/
11:30:10 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: hardware: fix memory check usage for small/large pages https://review.openstack.org/532168
12:20:40 amarao How to access object attributes in policy json? I'd like to forbid some operations based on flavor. Is someone tried that before?
12:26:29 sean-k-mooney amarao: as in based on the flavor of an instance you want to change what api actions are allowable and or by whom?
12:27:07 sean-k-mooney amarao: that sound like a nightmare from an interoperablity stand point so i doubt that has been tried/tested before
12:30:13 amarao Yep, I want to use flavor of the instance (or another instance attribute).
12:30:42 amarao Basically, I want to lock instance. I can use nova lock for this, but user still have access to console, and I want to remove it.
12:34:57 moshele sean-k-mooney: hi
12:35:47 moshele sean-k-mooney: in intel driver if spoofchk is enabled does it allow to set the mac address of the vf to 00:00:00:00:00:00
12:58:51 sean-k-mooney moshele: i am not sure. if it did i would expect that to mean if the dest/source mac is not 00:00:00:00:00:00 specically drop the packet e.g. only broadcast traffic would be allowed
13:02:03 sean-k-mooney moshele: also at least in niantic (x520/x510) cards i know the mac filter is before the vlan filter so if you had 2 vf with that adress that would cause issues
13:03:27 sean-k-mooney amarao: locking in nova is intended to prevent api acess to an instance not to prevent users form using it
13:04:27 sean-k-mooney amarao: so a user can still poweroff a locked instance by sshing in and executing power off if they choose too.
13:05:23 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: Making instance/migration listing skipping down cells configurable https://review.openstack.org/592428
13:05:41 sean-k-mooney amarao: is there a partical usecase you have in mind. perhaps a dedicated feature would be better then a flavor hack.
13:06:04 amarao sean-k-mooney, in our scenario we want to run it with our own key (user have no private key from it). 'Hidden' key plus 'lock' almost lock instance from user. What is left is console: Ctrl-Alt-Del, Sysrq-b, and (most importantly) grub access at boot time.
13:06:18 amarao I'd like to take away console from user as well (for specific instances only).
13:10:26 moshele sean-k-mooney: the reason I am asking is that mellanox driver block this and it can cause issues. So the mac address 00:00:00:00:00:00 is just to allow libvirt to clean vf when the VM with VF is deleted see https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2017-March/msg00455.html
13:11:24 moshele sean-k-mooney: but now if spoofchk enabled first nova(libvirt delete the vm) restoring the mac to 00:00:00:00:00:00 and then the sriov agent will disable the spofchk
13:12:01 moshele sean-k-mooney: so the vf mac will not set to 00:00:00:00:00:00 and we can't reuse the mac on the same compute
13:12:44 moshele sean-k-mooney: I wonder how intel driver behavior to undestand were to fix it, in the driver or in openstack ...
13:14:26 sean-k-mooney moshele: i really need to get a redhat account at somepoint.. i cant read that linke but anyway. i dont think setting 00:00:00:00:00:00 is a good idea on intel cards either
13:14:52 sean-k-mooney moshele: i belive that the intel driver generates unique macs automaticaly for the pfs
13:14:57 sean-k-mooney * vfs
13:16:17 sean-k-mooney personally the fact that libvirt is seting 00:00:00:00:00:00 on deleteing the vm sound like a libvirt bug to me
13:16:40 sean-k-mooney or a nova bug if we are doing that in the libvirt vir driver
13:18:30 moshele sean-k-mooney: basically it set the restore the previously used mac so if you auto generate it. it will restore the auto generate one. in mellanox case the vf is start with 00:00:00:00:00:00 so we allowed to restore to 00:00:00:00:00:00
13:18:37 sean-k-mooney amarao: well would a flavor extra-spec for disableing the console on an instace work?
13:19:53 amarao sean-k-mooney are there such property for extra-spec?
13:19:55 sean-k-mooney moshele: right in anycase when the vf is detached from a instance its linkstate should be down so no trafic will travers it so does it matter if spoof checking is disabled
13:20:37 sean-k-mooney amarao: ill check you can chages several aspecs of the vm like this via extra-sepcs and or image metadata.
13:22:46 amarao If I could disable console via flavor specs, it would be cool.
13:23:03 sean-k-mooney amarao: you can change the type of gpu in the guest and ram https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/etc/metadefs/compute-libvirt-image.json#L45-L62
13:23:14 moshele sean-k-mooney: right, but I think the default links state is auto, (at least for Mellanox)
13:23:15 sean-k-mooney you can also set the serial port count https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/etc/metadefs/compute-libvirt.json#L18-L23
13:23:34 sean-k-mooney amarao: we could add a display count extra spec
13:24:04 sean-k-mooney amarao: or extend hw_video_model to allow none to signel no display
13:24:52 amarao Nodisplay wouldn't work with many OSes.
13:25:06 amarao But disable_vnc (or disable_access) will be cool.
13:25:40 sean-k-mooney amarao: hum the perhaps we should leave the display and allow disabling of the vnc/spice console that is attached to it instead?
13:27:11 sean-k-mooney amarao: atleast in terms of libvirt/kvm the vnc/spice console is a sperate device form the gpu/display so we could disable it speraate ly or leave it here but limit its acess to local scope so you cannot connect to it via the novnc_proxy
13:28:05 amarao For the best user expirience it's better to return error on get-vnc-console, saying 'VNC console is disabled for this instance'.
13:28:45 amarao ... And admins will love that they still can connect to VNC through local IP on libvirt host.
13:29:20 amarao Should I report wishbug into launchpad?
13:29:25 sean-k-mooney amarao: we could proably do that based on the extraspec via an api check. amarao this would be a good topic for a blueprint care to write one
13:29:45 sean-k-mooney amarao: yes. a bug or sepcless blueprint.
13:30:19 amarao I'll start from a bug. I never created a blueprint, so I'll write down a bug and then will try with blueprint.
13:31:53 sean-k-mooney amarao: ok sound good. feel free to add me to the bug if you like. am will you be attending the PTG next week. if not i can highlight this as an RFE
13:34:31 amarao Should I put it into 'hw' namespace?
13:35:07 sean-k-mooney am you dont have to detail the impmentation in the bug but yes i would think so
13:35:15 amarao I thought about something like 'hw:disable_consoles: vnc,spice,serial'
13:36:41 amarao Oh, it's simpler than I thought. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/flavor-based-access-to-console
13:37:45 sean-k-mooney amarao: perhapes invert that to hw:consoles=<one of vnc|spice|serial|None>
13:38:13 amarao .. and if this field is absent, everything is permitted. ack.
13:38:14 sean-k-mooney amarao: yes blueprints are baseicelay jsut what is the problem you would like to fix
13:38:36 sean-k-mooney amarao: yep if the field is not there just do waht we do today
13:39:25 sean-k-mooney amarao: i dont think we actully allow more then one console currently hence the one of but that is something we could figure out as we start looking at the implementaion
13:39:47 sean-k-mooney e.g. i dont think you can have an instance with both spice and vnc enabled
13:41:17 amarao ack, updated.
13:41:29 amarao It's more about serial/vnc thing, actually.
13:42:31 sean-k-mooney ya serial likely can be mix with vnc as they attach do different virualised hardware
13:42:44 sean-k-mooney rdp/vnc/spice all share teh virutal gpu
13:43:39 amarao Anyway, we are still on mitaka (sad, but true), so I'll continue to search some kind of dirty hack for that. Thank you for help.
13:43:46 sean-k-mooney the other think about inverting it is we could model what consoles are available on each host as traits in the placement api and use this extraspec if present to land on a host that is able to support that console
13:44:30 stephenfin Afternoon, gibi. Think this is something you'd be happy reviewing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/
13:45:13 sean-k-mooney amarao: no worries, you may be able to use policies but that is not a area im familar with unfrotuetly.
13:46:23 amarao ... policy.json is like a path in a swamp. Everyone knew it exist, but rarely someone passes through. :)
13:49:30 gibi stephenfin: sure, looking
13:58:50 gibi stephenfin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ looks good overall. I'm wondering how we can tests this other than in the unit test that is in the patch
13:59:53 stephenfin gibi: I'm not sure how we could do it in the gate due to the hardware dependencies. I do have an SR-IOV machine locally that I could validate the fix with, if you'd like
14:00:40 stephenfin gibi: Downstream we will likely look at automating this as part of the whitebox-tempest-plugin Tempest plugin, but how we actually run those tests is still very much in the air
14:02:52 bauzas given we're on a US holiday today, I guess we won't have any scheduler meeting?
14:02:53 gibi stephenfin: if it does not take more than 2 hours of your time to locally test it then could you please run that test? It would give sizeable confidence boost to me towards this patch
14:03:17 stephenfin gibi: No problem, should only take me 20 minutes
14:03:25 gibi bauzas: cdent asked it in openstack-placement where I said it is OK to me to skip
14:03:33 bauzas k
14:03:33 gibi stephenfin: thanks a lot
14:07:57 moshele stephenfin: Mellanox CI was update to test this
14:16:16 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: gibi moshele if you are refering to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/3 i think that is a pretty safe change
14:18:41 gibi sean-k-mooney: yes, we are talking about that. If stephenfin's timeline is correct he will have test results in 5 minutes anyhow :)
14:20:14 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: if not i can prep an sriov env if needed but ill have to do an os reinstall on the node so it will be more like 2-3 hours before ill be able to check this directly.
14:20:36 sean-k-mooney * or rather if you have issues
14:23:09 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: Think I'm all good. Will known in 60 seconds :P
14:23:46 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: i take it you worked out your sriov issues then?
14:24:32 stephenfin gibi: Without the fix http://paste.openstack.org/show/729332/
14:24:52 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: Sure did. It was a really stupid typo
14:25:08 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: and those warnings didn't seem to affect anything.
14:25:09 sean-k-mooney ha they are always the best typos

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