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#openstack-nova - 2018-08-17
13:44:40 edmondsw fried_rice mriedem ^
13:44:42 fried_rice ack
13:45:29 fried_rice edmondsw: Do we have a way to test that in the CI?
13:45:54 fried_rice edmondsw: Or at least a local run?
13:51:19 edmondsw fried_rice I presume there are tempest tests for this...
13:51:48 fried_rice edmondsw: I presume that too, but have not investigated. Guessing we could grep our blacklist?
13:53:06 openstackgerrit Chen proposed openstack/nova master: Fix evacuate logging https://review.openstack.org/593055
14:04:35 melwitt .
14:07:05 fried_rice ō/ melwitt
14:30:26 SteelyDan sean-k-mooney: you confirmed that the new approach works for LB right? If so, can you comment on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591735
14:30:37 SteelyDan *the new waiting during live migration approach
15:14:30 openstack bug 1787606 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Multi instance creation rescheduling fails due to a lack of alternates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787606
15:14:30 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP Add regression for bug 1787606 https://review.openstack.org/593073
15:14:31 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP scheduler: Only skip the selected host when finding alternates https://review.openstack.org/593074
15:18:48 cdent melwitt, SteelyDan: Do either of you recall if this be taken back to ocata standalone or the whole stack associated with topic is needed?
15:19:01 cdent melwitt, SteelyDan https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580498/
15:19:52 SteelyDan cdent: needs to be taken? was taken?
15:20:02 melwitt cdent: if that can be taken standalone?
15:20:17 cdent can be, sorry
15:20:34 cdent looks like probably not, but the commit message kind of implies maybe it could
15:21:36 SteelyDan I dunno, I'd have to look pretty closely, because ocata had very different allocation behavior
15:21:50 SteelyDan so in general I would expect few things that applied to pike to apply directly to ocata
15:21:55 cdent yeah.
15:22:38 melwitt yeah, that's what I wasn't sure about, since a lot of foundational stuff was done in pike, whether this does the right thing on its own without other pike changes in placement
15:23:24 SteelyDan placement didn't change as a result of this,
15:23:38 SteelyDan it was the difference in how/where nova does the allocations in placement in ocata vs. pike
15:23:48 melwitt that is, why wasn't this proposed to ocata along with pike, if there was a reason for that
15:23:58 SteelyDan like, the doubling of the allocations for a migation
15:24:11 melwitt usually things get backported to all applicable places at the same time
15:24:13 SteelyDan although I guess if you're deleting an instance you should delete both
15:24:59 SteelyDan cdent: are you in a hurry such that waiting to ask matt isn't reasonable?
15:25:09 SteelyDan not sure he'll remember more, but..
15:25:31 cdent SteelyDan: no, not in a super rush, just happened to cross my radar because of some internal flim flammery
15:25:53 cdent i'm going to see what happens if I try to pick just it
15:26:21 SteelyDan in ocata the compute node is authoritative over the allocations,
15:26:39 SteelyDan but even post pike it will be for deleted instances only,
15:26:47 SteelyDan so I'm not positive why this was even a thing on pike
15:27:48 melwitt what do you mean? the compute node will remove allocations for a local deleted instance on pike?
15:27:57 melwitt via auto-heal or something?
15:28:08 SteelyDan yes,
15:28:13 SteelyDan it used to always auto-heal everything,
15:28:24 SteelyDan but as of pike it should only do it for deleted instances once all the ocata computes are gone
15:28:25 cdent looking a bit more closely, it seems the real issue on the internal discussion is this part of the bug fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580499/ , for cleaning up host mappings
15:28:27 SteelyDan let me see if I an find that
15:28:31 melwitt I see
15:28:56 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: add zvm into support matrix https://review.openstack.org/593079
15:28:57 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Add zvm admin intro and hypervisor information https://review.openstack.org/593080
15:28:58 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Add zvm CI information https://review.openstack.org/593081
15:29:18 SteelyDan melwitt: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/pike/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L1249-L1258
15:29:37 SteelyDan melwitt: prior to pike, the other conditions in that heal/check loop would heal things, but as of pike only the instance.deleted one would
15:30:05 SteelyDan because as of pike the scheduler/conductor/api are authoritative for allocations
15:30:09 melwitt a-ha, thanks
15:31:54 cdent le sigh. it seems the root cause of the internal problem is: we messed various database tables and now things don't look like they should
15:32:14 cdent doctor it hurts when I punch myself!
15:35:41 fried_rice Choke yourself instead. Self-limiting.
15:39:07 cdent what you do in the privacy of your own home...
15:40:32 SteelyDan hehe, thanks I was looking for how to acknowledge the kink
15:49:09 cdent said SteelyDan
15:49:26 SteelyDan :)
16:35:34 SteelyDan sean-k-mooney: did you see my query here earlier?
16:35:54 sean-k-mooney oh am no ill scoll back
16:36:13 SteelyDan (repeat) sean-k-mooney: you confirmed that the new approach works for LB right? If so, can you comment on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591735
16:37:13 sean-k-mooney i confimed that the current code on master works. this is the queens backport of the same?
16:37:28 SteelyDan sean-k-mooney: you don't need to confirm it separately for queens
16:37:41 SteelyDan but if you could comment there I'd appreciate it
16:38:10 sean-k-mooney yes ill just triple check i have the commit in question on the relevent nodes
16:38:44 SteelyDan I think we've already established when the event is sent from neutron in the LB case, so it really shouldn't even be an issue, but...
16:39:53 sean-k-mooney yep i have the master change on both linux bidge node an the conf change. ill comment to that effect
16:47:18 sean-k-mooney speaking of LM testing i should work on that email to the list.
16:57:16 melwitt SteelyDan: docs changes for rc2 proposed starting here https://review.openstack.org/593079 if you could pls take a look
16:57:39 melwitt backports
16:57:42 SteelyDan ugh okay, I'll add it to the list
16:57:58 melwitt thanks
17:11:27 SteelyDan melwitt: don't we know that zvm doesn't support rebuild?
17:14:33 melwitt SteelyDan: mriedem asked them to change it from missing => unknown because since they support spawn and destroy, it sounds like it could work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532720/8/doc/source/user/support-matrix.ini@378
17:15:28 melwitt but they aren't testing that path, so "unknown"
17:17:51 SteelyDan it's not implemented in the driver, and untested, which sounds a lot more like "unsupported" than "maybe it'll work if code we wrote long ago to handle it for normal hypervisors, which zvm is not"
17:17:53 SteelyDan but.. okay
17:18:39 melwitt yeah, I think that's why they put "missing" initially
17:18:48 SteelyDan ...yeah
17:18:53 SteelyDan so glad we added this
17:19:00 SteelyDan so are we looking for fast approvals on these I assume?
17:19:09 SteelyDan or do you want to wait for another stabler on monday?
17:19:57 melwitt I was thinking mriedem could get them on monday
17:20:43 melwitt I wanted them to be ready to go. I wasn't sure if we need to fast approve
17:20:57 melwitt I guess I could ask smcginnis
17:21:49 SteelyDan you know better than I at this point when rc2 will be, which is why I'm asking
17:22:12 melwitt final RCs are due Aug 23, so AFAIK we are fine until then
17:37:05 SteelyDan ack
18:08:37 smcginnis melwitt: The question was whether to do another RC?
18:14:44 melwitt smcginnis: no, question was, should we be looking at fast-approving doc backports to stable/rocky for RC2 today (other stable cores are not around) or is it fine to wait until monday?
18:15:04 melwitt my understanding is final RCs are due Aug 23, so there isn't a rush. but please correct me if I'm wrong
18:18:55 smcginnis melwitt: That's correct. You have until next Thursday if there is a need to do another RC.
18:19:26 melwitt ok thank you
18:19:32 smcginnis melwitt: So if there isn't a need to get that proposed RC2 out right away, and you know there's likely to be more, it might make sense to hold off on that for now and just do the RC2 next week.
18:19:59 smcginnis melwitt: But if there is a need to get the commits since RC1 out there right away, we can definitely do RC2 now and another RC3 next week.
18:20:15 smcginnis In general we just like to minimize the number of RCs, but practically it doesn't really matter too much.
18:20:48 melwitt I see. thanks, that's helpful
18:24:05 mnaser super unrelated, but have you seen 'sh: write error: No space left on device' in console logs for cirros in tempest much?
18:24:30 mnaser i'm having problems with the (i think) last issue to get centos passing on openstack ansible, it's failing to ssh to the floating ip with a timeout .. http://logs.openstack.org/78/590778/6/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_metal-centos-7/fdd9d28/logs/openstack/aio1-utility/stestr_results.html

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