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#openstack-nova - 2018-07-19
18:45:24 mriedem controller = api, conductor, scheduler
18:45:50 efried Trying to figure out why this allocation_request_version thing exists
18:46:40 efried Sounds like its purpose is to allow us to "cheat" and use a higher microversion on the n-1 compute than that codebase actually knows about.
18:47:02 mriedem correct
18:47:05 mriedem well, not the compute,
18:47:07 mriedem the cell conductor
18:47:24 efried um
18:47:29 efried because the cell conductor can be n-1 as well?
18:48:02 mriedem api->superconductor->scheduler (get allocation candidates and get alternate hosts from those allocatoin requests at the given microversion used in the scheduler)->pass down to compute to build; fails and reschedule to cell conductor which uses the allocation request, created in the scheduler, to claim resources against the alternate host in placement
18:48:41 efried And the cell conductor can be downlevel from the superconductor?
18:48:44 mriedem long-term i think we want to be able to do rolling upgrades of the cells themselves so yes cell conductor could be n-
18:48:45 mriedem *n-1
18:49:01 mriedem it's been a long time since i've talked about rolling upgrades for cells with dansmith
18:49:41 mriedem gibi: good news - the delattr stuff for getting alternate hosts was a bugaboo so i'm removing all that code and added a wrinkle to the functional test to assert there are no alternate hosts when this bug is fixed
18:50:31 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add regression test for bug 1781710 https://review.openstack.org/583339
18:50:33 openstack bug 1781710 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ServersOnMultiNodesTest.test_create_server_with_scheduler_hint_group_anti_affinity failing with "Servers are on the same host"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781710 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)
18:50:34 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Update RequestSpec.instance_uuid during scheduling https://review.openstack.org/583347
18:50:36 mriedem melwitt: jaypipes: ^ should be better now
18:51:12 mriedem tl;dr the change is now just make sure and set the in-context correct instance_uuid on the RequestSpec before calling the filters
18:54:15 efried Because of da new rulez, if the conductor is running N, the version of placement that all of its cell conductors and computes will be dealing with is at least the minumum for N, not the minimum for N-1, right?
18:54:56 efried guess the rules aren't new
18:57:02 mriedem new rules being we don't do version negotiation for placement?
18:57:24 mriedem that doesn't apply if the code is on an N-1 service and it thinks the minimum required version is whatever it was for N-1
18:57:57 mriedem i mean, that's kind of the point of why we send the allocation candidate request version down to the cell,
18:58:19 mriedem because if it's downlevel, and the request body format changed, we need to tell the cell exactly what version to make that request with that particular body
18:58:32 mriedem it's like gd time travel
18:58:53 mriedem efried: do you want to continue talking about this or want me to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556669/ ?
18:58:58 mriedem because i need to get in the zone
18:59:44 efried mriedem: zone away. I'm going to write a patch to clean this shit up, based on now being able to assume we're talking to a queens minimum.
19:08:19 jaypipes mriedem: cool, will look shortly.
19:54:17 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP POC: Use os-resource-classes in placement https://review.openstack.org/584084
19:54:18 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Move resource_class_cache into placement hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/584085
19:54:19 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] ensure_rc_cache only at start of process https://review.openstack.org/584086
20:20:38 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Implement migrate_instance_start method for neutron https://review.openstack.org/556334
20:24:57 mriedem kashyap: what does this mean? " libvirtError: unsupported configuration: Attribute mode is only allowed for guest CPU"
20:26:01 mriedem https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2012-January/msg00232.html
20:26:57 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: extra logging for 1775947 https://review.openstack.org/584032
20:43:56 cfriesen_ mriedem: looks like its if you try to parse XML with a <host><cpu> section that then tries to specify a "mode". That's only allowed for XML describing guest cpus.
20:44:54 cfriesen_ https://github.com/libvirt/libvirt/blob/master/src/conf/cpu_conf.c#L317
20:51:25 melwitt nova meeting in 9 minutes
20:55:01 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Check provider generation and retry on conflict https://review.openstack.org/556669
21:31:40 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in test_compute_api.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/568462
21:31:58 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (3) https://review.openstack.org/574104
21:32:17 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in unit/network/test_neutronv2.py (4) https://review.openstack.org/574106
21:46:25 mriedem gonna rebase and address comments in the handling a down cell series
21:49:41 melwitt tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560317/ is failing powerkvm CI and we need help figuring out why
21:49:54 tonyb melwitt: okay I'll look at it
21:50:20 melwitt the powerkvm CI owner is on PTO this week, we found out that's why we didn't get response to pings
22:05:04 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox in virt/test_block_device.py https://review.openstack.org/566153
22:07:24 melwitt mriedem: os-traits release proposed https://review.openstack.org/584130
22:07:28 melwitt fyi
22:08:51 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Create specs directory for Stein https://review.openstack.org/573602
22:12:29 openstackgerrit do3meli proposed openstack/nova master: docs: add nova host-evacuate command to evacuate documentation https://review.openstack.org/578040
22:15:00 openstackgerrit do3meli proposed openstack/nova master: docs: add nova host-evacuate command to evacuate documentation https://review.openstack.org/578040
22:15:54 mriedem tonyb: well, it was originally failing because the CI is configured with cpu_mode='none' and so i believe the model put into the xml was ppc64le, so that was changed to mode=host-model and model=power8 (per someone from libvirt/qemu that knows about this),
22:16:02 mriedem but now it fails on something else, which cfriesen_ said might be:
22:16:03 mriedem (3:45:04 PM) cfriesen_: https://github.com/libvirt/libvirt/blob/master/src/conf/cpu_conf.c#L317
22:16:03 mriedem (3:44:06 PM) cfriesen_: mriedem: looks like its if you try to parse XML with a <host><cpu> section that then tries to specify a "mode". That's only allowed for XML describing guest cpus.
22:16:41 mriedem tonyb: i was suggesting the powerkvm ci could just set cpu_mode=host-model and cpu_model=power8, but that's basically what the code is now doing as a workaround
22:26:40 cfriesen_ mriedem: if you want to specify cpu_model=power8, wouldn't you want a cpu_mode of custom?
22:28:17 mriedem if a tree falls in the woods
22:28:55 mriedem cfriesen_: yeah that makes more sense
22:29:14 cfriesen_ mriedem: hmm...https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1237025 seems to think mode of "host-model" and "model" of "power8" is valid. weird.
22:29:15 openstack bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1237025 in libvirt "Guest can not start with different combinations of <cpu> mode and <model>" [Medium,Closed: notabug] - Assigned to abologna
22:29:33 cfriesen_ wonder if this is a bizarre powerpc-ism
22:30:12 mriedem jlk: said s390x causes all the problems,
22:30:15 mriedem but power is right up there
22:32:29 cfriesen_ mriedem: https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsCPU under the host-model section documents PowerPC weirdness.
22:33:09 mriedem "Specifying CPU model is not supported either"
22:34:01 mriedem Since 1.2.11 PowerISA allows processors to run VMs in binary compatibility mode supporting an older version of ISA. Libvirt on PowerPC architecture uses the host-model to signify a guest mode CPU running in binary compatibility mode
22:34:10 cfriesen_ yeah, that's the interesting bit
22:34:24 mriedem ii libvirt-bin 4.0.0-1ubuntu8.3~cloud0
22:34:25 jlk of course Power would override that to means omething else
22:36:08 cfriesen_ I don't get why they wouldn't just use a mode of "custom" with a model of "power8" (or whatever) instead.
22:36:39 mriedem could try that
22:36:48 mriedem kind of throwing things at the wall at this point until something works
22:43:47 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Check provider generation and retry on conflict https://review.openstack.org/556669
22:52:41 tonyb mriedem: Yeah setting power8 is wrong long term but shoudl be fine for now (but I wouldn't merge it that way)
22:53:36 tonyb mriedem: How do I debug placement failures? or at least see what allocation_candidates returned
22:54:34 tonyb Oh nm /me finds the 'renew until 27/07/18 08:05:33
22:54:40 tonyb ' in n-cpu
22:54:56 mriedem so you don't need help debugging placement failures now?
22:55:20 tonyb mriedem: No I don't think so for this thing but in gernal it'd be good to know how to do it
22:55:22 mriedem n-sch logs will tell you for a given request which hosts are being filtered
22:55:45 mriedem i don't think we log the allocation_candidates response since it could be huge
22:57:28 tonyb mriedem: Okay what I'm seeing 'Got no allocation candidates from the Placement API' so I think that measn I the filters don't run which is why I'm not seeing the output I'm expecting in select_destindations?
22:58:13 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Fix inconsistency https://review.openstack.org/572770
22:59:03 mriedem correct
22:59:17 mriedem tonyb: what's the scenario? normal server create? or a rebuild, or force_hosts?
22:59:36 mriedem could just be there are no hosts with available capacity for the flavor being used
23:01:52 tonyb mriedem: Lots of scenarios: tempest.api.compute.admin.test_auto_allocate_network.AutoAllocateNetworkTest is the one I picked at random
23:02:39 mriedem tonyb: so some tripleo ci job shit the bed or what?
23:02:39 tonyb mriedem: I'm off reading the libvirt code for baselineCPU as that's certainly part of the problem
23:03:10 tonyb mriedem: oooo No I'm looking at the pkvm thing from thismornings meeting
23:03:31 mriedem oh, don't worry about tempest in that case,
23:03:39 mriedem the n-cpu logs just show that the host baselineCPU stuff is f'ed
23:04:01 tonyb mriedem: Yeah I finally got there, and hence readin the libvirt code ;P
23:04:50 mriedem ok cool. point taken though - if people though debugging scheduler failures were hard before placement, it will be worse, because the filtering for some things is done in sql now
23:04:55 mriedem *thought
23:05:21 tonyb mriedem: Yup. I agree.

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