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#openstack-nova - 2018-02-22
14:14:09 mriedem bauzas: i'm in a meeting atm
14:14:10 bauzas but do you agree ?
14:14:19 bauzas that I now, let's discuss later
14:14:23 bauzas know*
14:27:34 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support shared and dedicated VMs in one host https://review.openstack.org/543805
14:38:10 tetsuro jaypipes, cfriesen: now this spec https://review.openstack.org/543805 is ready for review again.
14:41:58 jaypipes tetsuro: cool, thanks. (currently in nova meeting)
14:42:22 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Make _get_sharing_providers more efficient https://review.openstack.org/547008
14:42:36 tetsuro Oops
14:42:42 efried jaypipes, cdent: ^ the optimization that prompted the feature
14:44:28 jaypipes tetsuro: it's no prob :)
14:53:33 tetsuro jaypipes: I put your proposal into alternative section. The proposal sounds really attractive to me. But it is not kindful to operators, I guess.
14:54:47 jaypipes tetsuro: the proposal to just determine the shared pin set by subtracting the dedicate pin set from vcpu_pin_set?
14:55:44 tetsuro jaypipes: right.
14:56:07 jaypipes tetsuro: gotcha. ok, will re-review this morning :)
14:56:19 tetsuro thanks in advance!
14:58:05 jaypipes tetsuro: no problemo :)
15:01:19 bauzas melwitt: mriedem: maybe worth discussing Rambo's spec at the PTG during the cinder/nova cross-session on Thurs ?
15:02:13 bauzas or we could discuss the design before that, but if after, we loose the possibility to ask Cinder for a rebuild thingy
15:07:35 melwitt bauzas: that might be a good idea if we have time. since it's possible there's something they could do on their side to facilitate it
15:08:01 bauzas melwitt: for the moment I added L333 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky
15:08:22 bauzas melwitt: because mriedem wanted to discuss about all the rebuild problems we have
15:14:13 mriedem there is nothing i would like to discuss more than rebuild problems
15:15:49 bauzas mriedem: melwitt: maybe we could start a discussion about rebuild on wed if time allows
15:17:22 bauzas I know there is a huuuuuge Placement discussion that would occur most on all the afternoon, but maybe I should be tired after 3 hours ;)
15:20:55 mriedem if we talk about this rebuild + bfv thing,
15:21:01 mriedem it should either be with the cinder people in the room,
15:21:03 mriedem or on misc friday
15:21:10 melwitt +1
15:21:11 mriedem b/c this is a misc thing
15:22:39 bauzas mriedem: melwitt: FWIW, I'll need to leave the room by Friday noon
15:22:47 bauzas for my flight :(
15:23:14 bauzas but yeah, we could discuss about rebuilding volume-backed stuff with Cinder folks
15:23:16 bauzas anyway
15:23:40 mriedem we'll be sure to schedule all cheese-related discussions for friday morning
15:26:12 dansmith jaypipes: I approved that spec
15:26:25 dansmith jaypipes: you can repay me by approving this compute rpc compat drop, which I know you want anyway: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543580/
15:27:17 openstackgerrit Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: PowerVM Driver: Network interface attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/546813
15:31:15 openstack Launchpad bug 1751036 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ConfigFileValueError when defining enabled_apis" [Undecided,New]
15:31:15 bauzas mriedem: on an interop concern, should we accept other APIs but the ones we have in-tree ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1751036
15:31:19 bauzas I tend to say no
15:36:10 melwitt mriedem: please double check me on the rc3 tag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547031/1/deliverables/queens/nova.yaml
15:37:58 mriedem efried: jaypipes: dansmith: left a comment in that spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546009/ - fine to amend with some details
15:39:07 mriedem melwitt: done
15:39:32 mriedem melwitt: also that commit hash might end up being a merge commit
15:39:41 mriedem that's why we need the depends-on
15:39:59 melwitt mriedem: thanks. so if I keep the commit hash the same + depends-on, it will work fine?
15:40:37 mriedem not if we need to use a merge commit
15:40:47 mriedem i would just add the depends-on and then WIP
15:41:02 mriedem don't want to get caught by the old smcginnis trigger finger
15:41:15 melwitt oh okay. I thought I had seen you propose a commit hash ahead of merge before but maybe I made that up
15:41:29 smcginnis :)
15:41:31 mriedem i generally do, and the job fails until i fix it up
15:41:36 melwitt thanks
15:44:03 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Filter Resource Provider List for Traits https://review.openstack.org/546009
15:44:08 jaypipes mriedem: k
15:45:30 mriedem bauzas: i'm sort of surprised we don't allow ec2 in enabled_apis? i'm not sure how the ec2api code works w/o that
15:46:53 bauzas mriedem: ec2api is somehow stale now AFAIK
15:47:05 bauzas ansiwen: around ?
15:47:23 bauzas ansiwen: see mriedem's point about ec2api not being in the enabled apis
15:47:31 bauzas if so, is it run separately?
15:47:56 bauzas mriedem: back to my original concern, I don't see why Nova should support other out-of-tree APIs
15:47:56 mriedem it's still maintained
15:48:26 bauzas if people want to run their own APIs, why not running a specific WSGI server et voilà ?
15:48:32 bauzas a new endpoint
15:49:31 edleafe bauzas: I've wanted to simplify the pathing to reflect that there is only one Nova API
15:49:48 edleafe bauzas: e.g., change nova/api/openstack/compute to just nova/api/compute
15:50:13 edleafe But alex_xu has pointed out there are compatibilty issues
15:50:24 edleafe with api-paste.ini
15:50:35 bauzas edleafe: so you pointed me that enabled_apis shouldn't accept more than just nova and metadata ?
15:50:52 mriedem what does the GCE API do?
15:50:53 bauzas s/pointed/agreed with ?
15:52:32 bauzas mriedem: mmm, WAT ?
15:52:34 dansmith mriedem: I guess I see that distinction as a fundamental difference between allocation_candidates and resource_providers
15:52:36 mriedem https://github.com/openstack/gce-api/blob/master/gceapi/cmd/api.py#L34
15:52:38 bauzas we have a GCE proxy ?
15:52:48 mriedem bauzas: the gce api proxy is way old
15:52:49 dansmith mriedem: which is kinda why we ended up adding a_c I think
15:53:15 edleafe bauzas: yeah, we only support the openstack api, so the extra directory level in the project is not needed
15:53:30 bauzas anyhow
15:53:34 bauzas let's triage the bug as Invalid
15:53:45 bauzas and ask them to run their own WSGI service
15:54:24 bauzas (FWIW, I know those OCCI folks since 2013, I'm not surprised they never went upstream)
15:55:03 bauzas mriedem: back to the ec2api, ansiwen told us that it was barely maintained
15:55:19 mriedem bauzas: done
15:55:24 bauzas so maybe it's some misunderstanding from me
15:55:38 mriedem well the occi nova ooi or whatever code is in github
15:55:47 mriedem so it's available, which is fine
16:02:14 efried mriedem: What dansmith said. It doesn't make sense for me to say "return me a list of resource providers where the union of all their traits is [this list]". Because I would either get all of them or none of them. An allocation candidate is a list of *groups* of resource providers, where each *group* must satisfy the list of traits. s/traits/resources/ and the answer is the same.
16:02:47 efried I.e. the difference between rp and ac for traits is the same as the difference between rp and ac for resources, if that makes any sense :)
16:03:14 dansmith efried: right, that's how I think of it exactly
16:06:47 mriedem i get it fellas
16:06:55 mriedem and it was discussed in comments in the spec,
16:07:00 mriedem but for posterity sake,
16:07:02 mriedem let's doc that in the spec
16:07:06 mriedem so a year from now we can say why
16:07:13 efried mriedem: Roger that, will do.
16:07:39 dansmith mriedem: if you mean saying "because a_c is $description, we behave this way on this..." then sure
16:08:13 dansmith I don't really want to have to fully explain a_c every time we do something like this, but...
16:08:30 mriedem you can explain it now in a doc so we can point people to it,

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