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#openstack-nova - 2018-02-15
10:39:18 bauzas stephenfin: okay, I'll look at your spec once I'm done with jaypipes's one about aggregate ratios
10:42:42 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:02:23 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'numa-aware-vswitches' spec https://review.openstack.org/541290
11:12:57 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:28:37 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:31:56 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: doc: Clarify how to create your own filter https://review.openstack.org/544836
12:33:54 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova-specs master: VMware: add support for live migration https://review.openstack.org/299207
13:13:42 openstackgerrit Bence Romsics proposed openstack/nova master: Clarify 'capacity' in placement api-ref https://review.openstack.org/544347
13:26:52 openstackgerrit Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Python 3 fix for sphinx doc https://review.openstack.org/544956
13:30:57 ameeda Hello, what do you think if I take this review and complete on it ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525253/
13:48:32 hrw ameeda: you mean "take it, update, send for review"?
13:48:57 hrw ameeda: if you feel that change is needed but abandoned by original author then why not
13:48:59 ameeda yes
13:49:48 hrw ameeda: my way from 'wth is kolla' to 'kolla core reviewer' started from taking over one patch
13:49:51 ameeda original author doesn't do any activity from awhile "5 weeks"
13:54:42 ameeda hrw: I am not sure if that is legal to take this patch, I want approval, what if I comment on the bug to ask current assignee if he still working on the bug. also I am not sure about the rank of this bug.
13:55:24 ameeda hrw: since I have patches need for review from awhile.
13:59:30 hrw ameeda: do what you think. nova is foss and mia maintainer can be overriden imho with new ver of patch
14:00:43 hrw ameeda: sometimes during review it is easier for reviewer to send new version than comment
14:02:16 ameeda hrw: so you guess me to mark current patch as abandoned then upload new patch
14:02:20 jroll ameeda: cfriesen is the author, he is active in this channel, might as well ask him
14:02:38 hrw ameeda: no.
14:02:44 ameeda cfriesen: are you around ?
14:03:15 hrw ameeda: git review 525253 -d; edit, git commit --amend, git review
14:03:42 ameeda hrw: thanks
14:04:10 mriedem heh, mnaser check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525253/ being discussed; look familiar?
14:05:50 ameeda mriedem: Hello :)
14:06:21 mnaser mriedem: lol, well now that I’ve learned a whole lot, I can tell that shouldn’t work for scenarios involving new flow :p
14:07:07 mnaser I don’t think it would be a fun time to replicate all the code used in the clean up section (but maybe it could be moved out to utils somewhere and reused)
14:07:31 mnaser But imho transactionally It feels more correct that bdms for failed instances aren’t disappearing
14:07:32 mriedem mnaser: yup, that's part of my -1
14:07:59 mnaser If the detach fails there should still be some sort of reference, right now there’s nothing
14:09:24 mnaser mriedem: as much as I’d hate to rebase the series again, should we add a release note for operators that “hey, if you have a lot of failed scheduled instances, your bdm table might get bigger because they’re saved now”
14:10:03 mriedem mnaser: those will be deleted when the failed instance is deleted
14:10:22 mnaser mriedem: oh okay so thats not a big impact, i guess bdms are not soft deleted
14:10:23 mriedem i doubt anyone would need to know that we start putting bdms in cell0 now
14:10:29 mriedem bdms are soft deleted
14:10:37 mriedem like instances and everything else (except tags) in the 'nova' table
14:10:51 mriedem so you'd still have to archive/purge that stuff at some point
14:10:55 mnaser gotcha
14:11:59 mnaser anyways, whole series is ready to be reviewed (and i don't think i have a lot of review karma saved up for my lack of nova reviews to use :p)
14:12:22 mriedem i've got +2s on the first 3
14:12:25 mnaser it's causing a ton of annoyance for some customers because they cant delete their volumes
14:12:37 mriedem there is a force detach in cinder
14:12:50 mnaser afaik thats an admin op
14:13:01 mriedem yeah maybe
14:13:57 mriedem yup it's an admin action by default os-force_detach
14:14:01 mriedem http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cinder/tree/cinder/api/contrib/admin_actions.py#n203
14:14:08 mnaser anyways no worries, i know the first 3 are much more simple, the last one is the tough one but i'm ready to pick up any other work that comes on top so ping me if anything :>
14:22:46 efried melwitt: I have to duck out of the nova meeting around quarter after, FYI. On the hook for school runs again.
14:44:11 jaypipes bauzas: would you mind pinging sahid to hop on #openstack-nova please? just for a few minutes. have a question for him..
14:44:25 bauzas sure, lemme try ;)
14:44:37 jaypipes merci
14:44:59 bauzas mmm, he's not on our internal IRC, lemme verify if he has some PTO
14:48:50 jaypipes bauzas: ok, no worries.
14:49:08 bauzas jaypipes: well, I don't see any PTO on our agenda
14:49:24 jaypipes bauzas: danpb isn't available is he?
14:50:03 jaypipes bauzas: specifically, I am looking to find out whether Dan's comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527631/9/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py@a4299 (that was removed by tetsuro) is still valid.
14:50:18 bauzas jaypipes: I can ask danpb to go here
14:50:25 jaypipes bauzas: cool, cheers :)
14:50:34 bauzas even if he's no longer working on nova
14:52:36 stephenfin jaypipes: kashyap is the person to ask about that
14:52:47 stephenfin Far as I know, that comment is still valid. We've got support or emulator threads enabled but not IO threads
14:53:02 kashyap And clicks on the URL
14:53:03 stephenfin However, iirc, kashyap was in talks where the value of IO threads was called into question
14:53:22 stephenfin Well, IO threads > 1 anyway
14:53:35 kashyap stephenfin: jaypipes: (I have a discussion for it (IO Threads at Dublin too)
14:53:38 kashyap That said...
14:55:06 kashyap Yeah, the IO Threads value is in contention
14:55:33 kashyap Recently, I saw a presentation at KVM Forum where someone from oVirt claimed the "ideal" number of IO Threads is ...1!
14:55:37 kashyap (In their benchmarks)
14:56:01 kashyap But I won't believe it. "Seeing is believing" --> Need `fio` benchmarks for that
14:57:59 kashyap jaypipes: Also see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230968/ "iothreads for disk devices"
14:59:17 jaypipes kashyap: so, bottom line, that comment from danpb is still valid, yeah?
14:59:19 bauzas jaypipes: when you have time, I'd also like to discuss abotu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/1
14:59:32 kashyap jaypipes: Yes, it is still valid; it's better to retain that
14:59:42 kashyap (I.e. I agree with your comment on Gerrit)
15:00:04 kashyap Nova isn't yet using IO Threads.
15:00:51 jaypipes danke
15:01:13 jaypipes kashyap: dan just responded.
15:02:07 kashyap jaypipes: I think you're trying to speak Dutch, in that case: "Dank je" / "Heel erg bedant" :P
15:02:13 kashyap (You wrote German)
15:02:27 kashyap If that was intentional; disreregard me
15:03:21 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support member_of param for allocation candidates https://review.openstack.org/544694
15:04:11 jaypipes kashyap: oh, I wasn't trying to write Dutch... I just say danke all the time...
15:04:23 jaypipes dansmith: why thank you dan
15:04:26 kashyap True; I've noticed it before
15:04:31 dansmith cha
15:05:20 mriedem melwitt: mnaser: i've gone through the local delete https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340614/ change in detail, lots of questions and head scratching
15:05:33 jaypipes stephenfin: I -W'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527630/ since the blueprint isn't yet approved..
15:06:13 stephenfin Oh, good catch. It is just cleanup though, right?
15:06:25 mriedem 527630 is in the gate
15:06:29 efried cdent, jaypipes: Can we talk about the "2001 providers" issue from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540111/ ?
15:06:30 mriedem you're going to have to rebase it to pull it out
15:06:32 mriedem or change the commit message
15:06:37 stephenfin Do we want to?
15:06:37 mriedem jaypipes: stephenfin: ^
15:07:15 cdent efried: I can if you like but it will be partial attention, doing tc office hours then api-s
15:07:16 cdent ig
15:07:21 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add request filter functionality to scheduler https://review.openstack.org/544730

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