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#openstack-nova - 2018-02-15
09:46:36 bauzas np
09:46:37 kashyap I noticed the question and prompted you :-)
09:46:43 kashyap I _think_ he's left the channel :-(
09:47:00 kashyap I recognize the name of the developer from Kubernetes community
09:47:41 cdent stephenfin: it's funny how that works isn't it? so much stuff can stay under the radar, no matter how long you're around.
09:48:25 stephenfin cdent: For sure. You never stop learning new stuff
09:48:34 stephenfin Though I suppose if you did, it would probably be time to move on
09:49:07 cdent true
10:00:44 openstackgerrit Bence Romsics proposed openstack/nova master: Clarify 'capacity' in placement api-ref https://review.openstack.org/544347
10:08:40 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Move resource provider objects into placement hierarchy https://review.openstack.org/540049
10:08:41 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435
10:08:41 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766
10:08:42 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate config parse_args for placement https://review.openstack.org/543495
10:13:37 bauzas does anyone know if our nova documentation includes HTML rendered docstrings of our internal interfaces ?
10:13:40 bauzas stephenfin: ^
10:14:01 bauzas I'd like to point in a document some object structures
10:14:05 stephenfin bauzas: Nope
10:14:17 bauzas okay, then I'll say look at the code
10:14:22 stephenfin That would need Sphinx's 'apidoc' tool, which we don't use enable
10:14:29 stephenfin That'd be the best call, yeah
10:23:29 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Clarify how to create your own filter https://review.openstack.org/544836
10:23:44 bauzas stephenfin: gibi: doc nits fix in https://review.openstack.org/544836
10:24:07 bauzas related to kashyap's proxying someone for clarifications about scheduler filters
10:24:28 kashyap bauzas: Thanks; will look at the review in a few
10:24:56 stephenfin bauzas: One newline missing and I'm +2
10:29:49 bauzas stephenfin: ack, thanks
10:37:18 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Clarify how to create your own filter https://review.openstack.org/544836
10:38:35 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'numa-aware-vswitches' spec https://review.openstack.org/541290
10:38:45 stephenfin bauzas: Boom ^
10:39:18 bauzas stephenfin: okay, I'll look at your spec once I'm done with jaypipes's one about aggregate ratios
10:42:42 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:02:23 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'numa-aware-vswitches' spec https://review.openstack.org/541290
11:12:57 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:28:37 openstackgerrit Ameed Ashour proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Change documentation theme https://review.openstack.org/542378
11:31:56 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: doc: Clarify how to create your own filter https://review.openstack.org/544836
12:33:54 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova-specs master: VMware: add support for live migration https://review.openstack.org/299207
13:13:42 openstackgerrit Bence Romsics proposed openstack/nova master: Clarify 'capacity' in placement api-ref https://review.openstack.org/544347
13:26:52 openstackgerrit Thomas Goirand proposed openstack/nova master: Python 3 fix for sphinx doc https://review.openstack.org/544956
13:30:57 ameeda Hello, what do you think if I take this review and complete on it ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525253/
13:48:32 hrw ameeda: you mean "take it, update, send for review"?
13:48:57 hrw ameeda: if you feel that change is needed but abandoned by original author then why not
13:48:59 ameeda yes
13:49:48 hrw ameeda: my way from 'wth is kolla' to 'kolla core reviewer' started from taking over one patch
13:49:51 ameeda original author doesn't do any activity from awhile "5 weeks"
13:54:42 ameeda hrw: I am not sure if that is legal to take this patch, I want approval, what if I comment on the bug to ask current assignee if he still working on the bug. also I am not sure about the rank of this bug.
13:55:24 ameeda hrw: since I have patches need for review from awhile.
13:59:30 hrw ameeda: do what you think. nova is foss and mia maintainer can be overriden imho with new ver of patch
14:00:43 hrw ameeda: sometimes during review it is easier for reviewer to send new version than comment
14:02:16 ameeda hrw: so you guess me to mark current patch as abandoned then upload new patch
14:02:20 jroll ameeda: cfriesen is the author, he is active in this channel, might as well ask him
14:02:38 hrw ameeda: no.
14:02:44 ameeda cfriesen: are you around ?
14:03:15 hrw ameeda: git review 525253 -d; edit, git commit --amend, git review
14:03:42 ameeda hrw: thanks
14:04:10 mriedem heh, mnaser check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525253/ being discussed; look familiar?
14:05:50 ameeda mriedem: Hello :)
14:06:21 mnaser mriedem: lol, well now that I’ve learned a whole lot, I can tell that shouldn’t work for scenarios involving new flow :p
14:07:07 mnaser I don’t think it would be a fun time to replicate all the code used in the clean up section (but maybe it could be moved out to utils somewhere and reused)
14:07:31 mnaser But imho transactionally It feels more correct that bdms for failed instances aren’t disappearing
14:07:32 mriedem mnaser: yup, that's part of my -1
14:07:59 mnaser If the detach fails there should still be some sort of reference, right now there’s nothing
14:09:24 mnaser mriedem: as much as I’d hate to rebase the series again, should we add a release note for operators that “hey, if you have a lot of failed scheduled instances, your bdm table might get bigger because they’re saved now”
14:10:03 mriedem mnaser: those will be deleted when the failed instance is deleted
14:10:22 mnaser mriedem: oh okay so thats not a big impact, i guess bdms are not soft deleted
14:10:23 mriedem i doubt anyone would need to know that we start putting bdms in cell0 now
14:10:29 mriedem bdms are soft deleted
14:10:37 mriedem like instances and everything else (except tags) in the 'nova' table
14:10:51 mriedem so you'd still have to archive/purge that stuff at some point
14:10:55 mnaser gotcha
14:11:59 mnaser anyways, whole series is ready to be reviewed (and i don't think i have a lot of review karma saved up for my lack of nova reviews to use :p)
14:12:22 mriedem i've got +2s on the first 3
14:12:25 mnaser it's causing a ton of annoyance for some customers because they cant delete their volumes
14:12:37 mriedem there is a force detach in cinder
14:12:50 mnaser afaik thats an admin op
14:13:01 mriedem yeah maybe
14:13:57 mriedem yup it's an admin action by default os-force_detach
14:14:01 mriedem http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cinder/tree/cinder/api/contrib/admin_actions.py#n203
14:14:08 mnaser anyways no worries, i know the first 3 are much more simple, the last one is the tough one but i'm ready to pick up any other work that comes on top so ping me if anything :>
14:22:46 efried melwitt: I have to duck out of the nova meeting around quarter after, FYI. On the hook for school runs again.
14:44:11 jaypipes bauzas: would you mind pinging sahid to hop on #openstack-nova please? just for a few minutes. have a question for him..
14:44:25 bauzas sure, lemme try ;)
14:44:37 jaypipes merci
14:44:59 bauzas mmm, he's not on our internal IRC, lemme verify if he has some PTO
14:48:50 jaypipes bauzas: ok, no worries.
14:49:08 bauzas jaypipes: well, I don't see any PTO on our agenda
14:49:24 jaypipes bauzas: danpb isn't available is he?
14:50:03 jaypipes bauzas: specifically, I am looking to find out whether Dan's comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527631/9/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py@a4299 (that was removed by tetsuro) is still valid.
14:50:18 bauzas jaypipes: I can ask danpb to go here
14:50:25 jaypipes bauzas: cool, cheers :)
14:50:34 bauzas even if he's no longer working on nova
14:52:36 stephenfin jaypipes: kashyap is the person to ask about that
14:52:47 stephenfin Far as I know, that comment is still valid. We've got support or emulator threads enabled but not IO threads
14:53:02 kashyap And clicks on the URL
14:53:03 stephenfin However, iirc, kashyap was in talks where the value of IO threads was called into question
14:53:22 stephenfin Well, IO threads > 1 anyway
14:53:35 kashyap stephenfin: jaypipes: (I have a discussion for it (IO Threads at Dublin too)
14:53:38 kashyap That said...
14:55:06 kashyap Yeah, the IO Threads value is in contention
14:55:33 kashyap Recently, I saw a presentation at KVM Forum where someone from oVirt claimed the "ideal" number of IO Threads is ...1!
14:55:37 kashyap (In their benchmarks)

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