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#openstack-nova - 2018-02-07
16:16:21 bauzas not the RH version
16:16:24 hrw bauzas: have rhel7 developer jacket in a closet ;D
16:16:30 hrw upstream first!
16:16:36 bauzas ;)
16:16:55 bauzas my hat is taking some dust
16:17:02 openstackgerrit Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/nova master: Provide basic data for AArch64 support matrix/functionality https://review.openstack.org/541728
16:17:07 bauzas I only used it by 4 years ago
16:17:29 hrw year ago I used it at local opensource conf
16:17:31 cdent was I supposed to return my hat when I left? It never fit, and now collects dust in a wardrobe (probably trying to make its way to narnia)
16:17:35 mriedem hrw: bauzas: given the time constraints for queens rc1, i'm good with a release note / feature support matrix docs update for queens, and update the check on driver startup in rocky
16:17:58 bauzas mriedem: hrw just provided a new rev
16:18:15 bauzas mriedem: just reviewing it and if okay, +2ing it
16:18:51 mriedem bauzas: i've also got your queens prelude reno up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541495/
16:18:59 bauzas mriedem: <3
16:19:05 mriedem and a fix for the pike prelude https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541498/
16:19:16 bauzas mriedem: saw the Foundation point about the reno notes ?
16:19:27 mriedem umm
16:19:34 bauzas how to not call the PTL about new features ?
16:19:36 mriedem release highlights in the releases repo?
16:19:38 bauzas yup
16:19:42 mriedem yes i know about that
16:19:44 bauzas cool
16:20:22 bauzas hrw: lemme fix some thing in your relnote
16:20:35 hrw feel free. you know that stuff better
16:20:37 bauzas hrw: you need to pass a link
16:26:24 efried mriedem: waitwait, how did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541008/2 pass the nova-next job??
16:27:37 mriedem efried: b/c i commented out the service user token code
16:27:43 mriedem to verify that was the combo that was breaking it
16:28:21 efried mriedem: Oh, I must have been looking at the wrong patch set.
16:29:30 hrw bauzas: ok, will dig
16:31:20 efried mriedem: Looks to me like that strip_version deal is gonna be the key. Need to remind myself what our aversion was to fixing the actual glanceclient bug...
16:35:49 bauzas hrw: I'm amending your note
16:35:58 hrw thx bauzas
16:36:12 bauzas hrw: I just entered a meeting, but I can work concurrently :)
16:36:28 hrw bauzas: I am in a meeting too
16:39:03 stephenfin mriedem: Have we a nova-neutron sync planned for the PTG? Could I add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/ to that list?
16:39:40 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: what day is that on? the monday or tuesday or later in the week
16:44:07 mriedem stephenfin: nothing specifically scheduled yet, we have nova/cinder penciled in for thurs morning,
16:44:18 mriedem thursday has historically been our xp day
16:44:41 mriedem mon/tues is going to be vm/bm (keystone) stuff too, plus whatever else people go to (FFU, API WG, etc)
16:44:47 mriedem friday is misc / everything else
16:45:03 mriedem wed is likely priority topics for nova in rocky, which generally ends up being all about placement
16:45:28 mriedem so i assume nova/neutron love fest would be sometime thursday afternoon
16:46:48 bauzas mriedem: do we have hot topics for nova/neutron except the pre-allocation of ports in the conductor that nobody signed off yet to continue ?
16:47:06 bauzas mriedem: because stephenfin had the NUMA affinity thing in mind
16:47:18 bauzas and I think it's quite important for a lot of people
16:47:30 stephenfin bauzas: Jinx :) Scroll up
16:47:46 bauzas damn
16:47:56 bauzas we're harassing mriedem
16:47:59 bauzas come on
16:48:49 mriedem once we're past RC1 i plan on organizing the ptg etherpad a bit
16:49:06 mriedem until then, just put your topic ideas in there and i'll deal with them later
16:49:10 cdent mriedem: I've been playing around locally with the ideas you've done in your 1000 instance create thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507918/ Can be a bit slow, but seems to behave. Now I'd like to change the parameters a bit and I'm not sure if I can:
16:49:14 stephenfin mriedem: Sweet. Thanks for the info. It's noted in the doc
16:49:56 cdent What I want to do is create a large number of nova-cpu processes (with the fake driver), but something needs to constrain for the fact that the resource providers needs to have different names (which usually comes from the hostname). Is there an already established way to do that?
16:50:43 openstackgerrit Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Make the InstanceMapping marker UUID-like https://review.openstack.org/539323
16:51:07 cfriesen cdent: can't you specify the host name in the config file?
16:51:19 cdent cfriesen: I was hoping to avoid creating multiple config files
16:51:42 mriedem cdent: i've wanted to play around with doing something like that too using NUMBER_FAKE_NOVA_COMPUTE
16:51:50 mriedem not sure if that actually works properly anymore, which is what i wanted to test
16:51:53 mriedem so tinker with NUMBER_FAKE_NOVA_COMPUTE i think
16:51:57 cdent could I override the host name from the ciommand line somhow?
16:52:03 cdent mriedem: cool, looking
16:52:35 mriedem i'm not sure if/how it creates a unique hostname for the n-cpu process
16:52:48 cdent found it, it does
16:52:58 mriedem oh
16:52:59 mriedem iniset $fake_conf DEFAULT nhost "${HOSTNAME}${i}"
16:53:03 mriedem heh
16:53:05 mriedem \o/
16:53:06 cdent just appends a number in a separate fake conf file
16:53:09 cdent woot
16:53:16 cdent I will get this started then
16:53:35 mriedem i've been meaning to kick this for months now to compare some different setups against placement
16:53:43 cdent ditto
16:53:44 mriedem like caching vs filter scheduler
16:53:59 cdent my goal is basically to see if I can get placement to break under pressure
16:54:11 bauzas caching vs. filter scheduler is a big deal
16:54:13 cfriesen has anyone ever heard of an instance getting information for another instance when querying the metadata server? Seems unlikely, but we've apparently hit it occasionally. (Assuming the test isn't mucked up.)
16:54:36 sean-k-mooney mriedem: i think jay did some benchmeraks comparing cacheing vs filtering a while back
16:55:31 melwitt mriedem: I was thinking this might be something for rc1? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540258/
16:55:38 cdent bbs
16:56:09 melwitt I think affinity scheduling doesn't work for multi-cell
16:56:22 bauzas sean-k-mooney: well, it requires a real nova deployment tbh
16:56:36 mriedem melwitt: that would be broken since pike right?
16:56:44 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Test case: new standard resource class unusable https://review.openstack.org/539732
16:56:49 melwitt mriedem: yes
16:56:54 melwitt for multi-cell only
16:57:00 sean-k-mooney bauzas: to test schduling. not really it really just needs the right db entries
16:57:01 bauzas because retries mechanism w/ caching has to be compared vs. no retries w/ placement
16:57:19 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I disagree
16:57:46 sean-k-mooney bauzas: if you include retries you are not testing just schduling you are also mesuing boot time and other factors
16:57:55 mriedem melwitt: can an instance group have members in multiple cells?
16:57:59 bauzas sean-k-mooney: if you wanna compare apples and apples, fire 1000 instances concurrently and see how many are in ERROR state and how long it took for booting the successful ones
16:58:10 bauzas that's for me the success criteria for comparison
16:58:32 bauzas mriedem: melwitt: I think we discussed that but we never implemented a solution
16:58:46 sean-k-mooney bauzas: sound like a rally test to me :) which is also valid just if you want to compare just the schduler part that is not need
16:58:46 melwitt mriedem: hmm. not sure
16:59:06 sean-k-mooney bauzas: rally is proably more meaning full however
16:59:10 bauzas melwitt: mriedem: I'm pretty sure the affinity filters don't take the cells awareness in mind
16:59:31 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I don't care about the tooling, I care more about the criterias

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