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#openstack-nova - 2018-01-22
15:35:03 efried cdent For one thing, as noted above, I've convinced myself that concurrency isn't an issue YET.
15:35:33 efried cdent And we're also working on the theory of merge big stuff early so we can shake out the bugs.
15:35:50 efried cdent Not that I think it's a great policy to count on shaking out bugs later rather than avoiding them by careful inspection beforehand...
15:36:13 efried cdent But we also can't get into analysis paralysis. Gotta walk the line.
15:36:22 cdent i like merge big stuff early
15:36:33 cdent as long as we actually exercise
15:36:54 edleafe "early" != "days before feature freeze"
15:37:04 johnthetubaguy mriedem: gibi: apologies, lots of things been getting in my way, but I am +2 on the multi-attach now, went back though the merged chain, I don't feel qualified for +W for some reason, but gibi you might be happy with that?
15:37:16 efried Well, unless feature freeze is deliberately early in the cycle, to allow time to exercise.
15:38:49 mriedem johnthetubaguy: thanks; just cleaning up the patch that adds the CI job so it's run in the check/gate queue
15:39:11 johnthetubaguy mriedem: ah, cool, I did see the -1 on there
15:39:23 mriedem i think zuul got lost in the long chain of deps
15:39:24 mriedem rechecking it
15:39:34 johnthetubaguy cool
15:40:30 mriedem johnthetubaguy: sdague: we'll need this bug fix to get the multiattach job in - relies on not using pike UCA https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532214/
15:40:42 mriedem which means you can't snapshot a paused instance with older libvirt
15:43:39 gibi johnthetubaguy: thanks for the review
15:45:56 gibi mriedem: is it OK for you that I +W the multiattach api patch as john is +2 on it or I should wait for new job to run?
15:46:03 efried rgerganov If you're willing to have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536348/ rebased onto https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535517/ instead of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531260/ I'll keep it up to date as I work on those WIPs.
15:46:17 mriedem gibi: should be fine to +W - the CI results have already passed for awhile now
15:46:19 efried rgerganov At the moment you're off on a side branch
15:46:21 mriedem i'm just changing the job config
15:46:32 gibi mriedem: OK, thanks
15:47:41 efried gibi Thanks for the reviews! Knocking 'em out today
15:50:55 mriedem edleafe: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526436/ needs a rebase?
15:51:32 jaypipes cdent: I see you liked my country music song joke.
15:51:42 cdent quite
15:52:02 jaypipes there's been a plethora of jokes and movie references in reviews on efried's latest patch series.
15:52:11 jaypipes I've been having quite a bit of fun.
15:52:16 edleafe mriedem: working on it
15:52:39 edleafe multiattach stepped on RPC versions
15:53:31 mriedem oh yeah
15:53:34 mriedem it was a race
15:53:47 amorin hello everybody
15:54:36 jaypipes amorin: mornin.
15:54:59 amorin I'd like to know if there is a reason of this if iso9660 line:
15:55:02 amorin https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/newton/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L6602
15:55:12 amorin I mean, other possibility is vfat afaik
15:55:34 amorin what if nova is transfering the config drive from remote if it is vfat?
15:56:31 amorin jaypipes: evenin :p
15:56:39 amorin (almost 5 pm here)
15:56:45 tovin07 mriedem, hi
15:57:59 jaypipes amorin: well, evening then :)
15:58:13 amorin :)
15:59:44 efried UGT
16:00:11 jaypipes amorin: as for your question... no idea. perhaps mdbooth or lyarwood might know the answer on that one.
16:00:42 amorin jaypipes mdbooth thanks
16:02:12 mdbooth amorin: What's the question?
16:02:46 mdbooth amorin: Ah, you're wondering why the handling difference between iso9660 and vfat?
16:02:49 amorin what if we copy the config-drive no matter its kind (vfat or iso)
16:02:55 amorin yup
16:03:04 efried cdent "For future reference, in the future this loop could be replaced with a single request to POST /allocations, clearing the allocations for all the consumers." <== This must have been a difficult comment to write. The war between "use lots of little API calls" and "use stuff I wrote!" :P
16:03:13 amorin I understand that libvirt is able to copy it if its vfat
16:03:28 amorin but it seems that if nova copy it first,
16:03:30 mdbooth It was (is? but I doubt it) a bug in libvirt/qemu in the handling of iso9660 disks
16:03:34 amorin then libvirt will do nothing
16:03:46 efried cdent Only joshing you of course. The POST is a great idea there.
16:03:50 mdbooth Did you look at the referenced lp bug?
16:03:56 amorin mdbooth: yes
16:04:12 amorin seems that libvirt is still failing with iso
16:04:39 amorin I was just wondering if copying vfat with nova is a bad idea or not
16:05:26 sean-k-mooney amorin: mdbooth i would guesss the bug in libvirt is related to iso beeing treated as cdroms and vfat ect disk being considered hdds or somthin in that vain?
16:06:12 sean-k-mooney amorin: well one way to check would be remove that line and look at the livemigration gate jobs. it might result in both nova and neutron coping the config drive
16:06:18 openstackgerrit Mark Goddard proposed openstack/nova master: Add get_traits() method to ComputeDriver https://review.openstack.org/532290
16:06:18 openstackgerrit Mark Goddard proposed openstack/nova master: Send traits to ironic on server boot https://review.openstack.org/508116
16:06:19 openstackgerrit Mark Goddard proposed openstack/nova master: Implement get_traits() for the ironic virt driver https://review.openstack.org/532288
16:06:20 amorin problem is, imagine you already spawn instances with iso kind, nova needs to copy it before (because of libvirt bug), but in the meantime, you updated the nova config, so CONF.config_drive = vfat
16:06:32 amorin then you never enter this if, and live-migration fail
16:07:11 mdbooth sean-k-mooney: Pretty sure it's something like that. Long time since I had this cached.
16:07:55 mdbooth amorin: So, the other thing that happened since then is that we explicitly specify which disks to migrate using migrateToURI3
16:07:56 amorin sean-k-mooney: I did try to remove it in my lab, seems to work, I'll try to submit and patch and see the results in gate jobs
16:08:46 amorin mdbooth: ok, got it, migrateToURI3 is then able to migrate the vfat config-drive
16:10:10 amorin mdbooth: but are we sure that migrateToURI3 is able to handle the iso kind?
16:10:12 amorin i'll check
16:10:13 mdbooth IIRC it's because cd-rom drives are read-only, and qemu won't let us write to a read-only disk, even during live migration
16:10:43 mdbooth amorin: The pertinent point about migrateToURI3 is that we specify a list of disks to block migrate explicitly
16:10:46 zzzeek jaypipes: my connection monitoring thing currently lets you put ?plugin=connmon on the SQLAlchemy URL. But Nova Cells shoves DB urls into the database the first time it runs and then they never change :(. So need to add a config flag to oslo.db. But then Nova hardcodes all the oslo flags :)
16:10:50 mdbooth Whereas before it was all disks
16:11:03 sean-k-mooney amorin: is there a reason we migate configdirve instead of recreating on remote side our of interest. technically with vfat it can be readwrite but they are intended to be readonly
16:11:11 sean-k-mooney mdbooth: ^
16:11:18 mdbooth amorin: So previously we didn't avoid the problematic disks, iirc
16:11:44 mdbooth sean-k-mooney: I believe we do recreate it now
16:14:07 tovin07 this patch passed all zuul gate (had 2+2, A+1). however, it's still open. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519664/
16:14:09 jaypipes zzzeek: that is indeed the suck :(
16:14:20 zzzeek jaypipes: this "nova puts the URLs into the DB
16:14:27 zzzeek " thing has been a really huge problem
16:14:43 jaypipes zzzeek: as opposed to, say, a config management system? :)
16:14:48 zzzeek it is far and away the worst design decision
16:15:20 zzzeek jaypipes: it means I cannot change the URL in the config file and have it take effect, *and* it means whatever is in the config file on one server is *implicitly shared* with all other nova servers on other machines
16:15:30 jaypipes zzzeek: well, I don't disagree it's a bad design but it's not something we can "fix" right away...
16:15:58 zzzeek jaypipes: we have all kind of workarounds. it's just v v inconvenient to constantly hit it
16:16:17 jaypipes zzzeek: is there a hack/workaround that will allow you to proceed with your ?plugin=XXX enhancements?
16:16:33 zzzeek jaypipes: yes I am going to add it to oslo.db so it's a separate config option outside of the URL
16:16:40 jaypipes zzzeek: again, I don't disagree with you at all
16:16:56 zzzeek jaypipes: which means when I document how to use connmon w/ nova, the answer will be "it depends :) "
16:17:26 zzzeek like older nova, OK there's no cells, put it in the URL. newer nova, OK we have the olso.db thing. middle-nova, erg, rewrite your cells URLs w/ the command line thing
16:17:42 jaypipes zzzeek: another annoying this about oslo.cfg: you can't tell whether a CONF option has been set or not. i.e. has the CONF option value been set (via either argparse or configparser) to any value.
16:17:44 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: just looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449257/52/nova/pci/request.py@93 the clean up you are asking for are not directly related to the patch rodlfo is doing so i should probably pull it out into another patch above or below rodolfos. is that ok? and do you have a prefernece?
16:17:55 jaypipes zzzeek: s/this/thing
16:18:28 zzzeek jaypipes: I might have observed the other day that putting something in [DEFAULT] doesn't actually "default" the value elsewhere? i struggled for days getting region_name / os_region_name setup to work

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