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#openstack-nova - 2017-12-22
16:01:47 finucannot leakypipes: I assume the irony of that has already been pointed out multiple times
16:01:47 leakypipes mriedem: so after $400 electrician bill I now have another $200 bill for the installers from Lowe's to come day after christmas to fix it.
16:01:53 leakypipes finucannot: yes sir.
16:02:00 leakypipes mriedem: no.
16:02:12 artom mdbooth, oh, so you're not testing that your code in the latest patchset handles a race properly
16:02:19 mdbooth artom: Yes.
16:02:29 mdbooth Erm...
16:02:33 artom Yes you're not?
16:02:35 mdbooth No, that's exactly what I'm testing.
16:02:35 mriedem leakypipes: oh lowes installers huh? i had to have lowes guys come back to fix our washing machine install which sprayed water all over the (thankfully unfinished) storage room in our basement
16:02:42 mriedem turns out zip ties are important for the drain hose
16:02:55 artom But you said there's no race in this patch
16:03:23 mdbooth The test asserts that the code correctly handles the situation where 2 threads both read a NULL uuid from the db, and both then try to populate it.
16:03:42 mdbooth The test passes.
16:03:51 mdbooth That doesn't mean there's no reason for the test, though.
16:04:59 mdbooth As it happens, the code will also work if the race happens during the db transaction, or on commit because both transactions occurred on different masters of a multi-master galera cluster.
16:05:04 artom SO I guess step one would be to remove all mentions of race from that test
16:05:07 mdbooth I didn't write tests for those, though, because....
16:05:24 mdbooth I would only understand them very briefly myself.
16:05:39 mdbooth artom: No, because it's a race ;)
16:05:52 mdbooth It simulates a race
16:06:04 mdbooth It simulates 2 threads with 1 thread.
16:06:12 artom I'm going to look up the definition of race, I swear to God ;)
16:06:36 mdbooth A race is a bug caused by execution timing.
16:07:02 mdbooth It doesn't require real concurrency.
16:07:23 artom Right, when the outcome is determined by the order in which things are executed
16:07:47 artom The code is written so as to *not have that*
16:08:04 artom Because 1. compare_and_swap 2. if it fails, we handle it gracefully and read the correct value
16:08:08 mdbooth Yes, although order may be A->B, B->A, or A(a bit)->B(all of it)->A(the rest)
16:08:40 figleaf mriedem: not zip ties. Use these: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71%2BzOxf-hBL._SX425_.jpg
16:09:19 mdbooth However, I could be convinced to test only the simpler consecutives calls to _create_uuid()
16:09:19 artom So given two reads A and B, we need a test that makes sure that, regardless of the sequence in which they're (partially) executed, the UUID read at the end is the same for both
16:09:39 mdbooth With a note that this simulates a race in the calling code, as this will only ever happen if there was a race.
16:10:07 mdbooth Rather than creating the race itself with fancy mocks.
16:10:15 mriedem figleaf: i used this https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/45894242895794p?$478$ to call lowes and tell them to get their guys out to fix the shit
16:10:48 mriedem ooo btw, where is my xmas list?
16:10:49 mriedem https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524447125273&site_refer=CSE_GGLPRADS001&gclid=Cj0KCQiA9_LRBRDZARIsAAcLXjfz8bCutBnNrpZ-bKlG_1RRPKyVGX4G1WC1vjzOtoO6K81rPpJXYrgaAuXkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
16:11:01 mdbooth artom: Think of it like this. We've got code that does: if uuid is not populated: populate_uuid()
16:11:05 mriedem if i were a corporation with some sweet tax cuts i could buy that phone
16:11:27 mriedem oh it's not an actual phone
16:11:30 mriedem it's a makeup thingy
16:11:42 mdbooth artom: We're simulating the case where the above code is interrupted mid flow, so by the time populate_uuid is called, it's actually already populated.
16:11:51 mdbooth Even though we just checked that it wasn't.
16:12:27 artom mdbooth, ok, point me to the "interrupted mid flow" bit - how does it happen in the test?
16:14:34 mdbooth artom: The first time we call _create_uuid() (populate_uuid in my example above), we interrupt the flow by calling race(). race() reads the bdm itself, which populates the uuid, then continues execution of the main thread by calling orig_create_uuid().
16:15:35 mdbooth So we have a main thread of execution, which is interrupted by another thread of execution.
16:17:14 mdbooth artom: You have absolutely convinced me to simplify that test ;)
16:17:32 artom mdbooth, I really am just trying to understand, honest :)
16:17:35 mdbooth The most important aspect of it was to test that the compare-and-swap works. I can do that without the mocking.
16:17:58 artom mdbooth, think of it as teaching me :)
16:19:53 figleaf mriedem: you can't remove a zip tie without cutting it (and usually the hose)
16:20:01 artom mdbooth, a mock side_effect...
16:20:09 artom Maybe that's the part I'm not getting
16:20:17 artom Does it still call the original function?
16:20:31 artom And call the side_effect before/after/at the same time?
16:20:41 mdbooth It calls the side effect both times
16:20:45 mdbooth That's why flip is required
16:20:49 artom mdbooth, no, in general I mean
16:21:03 mdbooth flip makes it call the race first time only
16:21:16 mdbooth That prevents infinite recursion by the race functino
16:21:21 artom Like, if I mock foo() and mock.side_effect = bar, and I call foo(), does the real foo() still get called, or only bar()?
16:21:37 mdbooth No, only the side effect is called
16:21:40 mdbooth It's a bad name
16:21:42 mriedem figleaf: found a problem in our devstack setup for the alternate hosts stuff :)
16:21:50 artom mdbooth, So it's effectively replacing the mocked object
16:21:53 figleaf oh joy!
16:22:07 mdbooth It's replacing the mocked function in this case
16:22:19 mdbooth That's why we explicitly store a reference to the original
16:22:22 artom mdbooth, gotcha. Back to looking at the code
16:22:27 mdbooth So we can still call it.
16:22:36 mdbooth artom: I'm really going to simplify it.
16:22:46 mdbooth I no longer think it's worth it myself ;)
16:22:48 artom mdbooth, sure, but I still want to understand this
16:22:49 mriedem figleaf: pretty simple
16:22:50 mriedem http://logs.openstack.org/89/527289/1/check/ironic-tempest-dsvm-ipa-wholedisk-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa-multinode/570a3c9/logs/screen-n-cond-cell1.txt.gz#_Dec_21_23_49_28_813934
16:23:09 mriedem figleaf: the ironic job failed the first node and was rescheduling, but the cell conductor couldn't talk to placement b/c placement isn't configured in nova_cell1.conf in devstack
16:23:17 artom mdbooth, I shall wear your down with the stubbornness of my ignorance ;)
16:23:22 mriedem figleaf: working on a devstack patch
16:24:22 figleaf mriedem: yeah, that would hose things
16:27:56 artom mdbooth, maybe it'd be easier if you point out the error in http://paste.openstack.org/show/629605/ ?
16:29:28 mdbooth artom: The error is that the invocations of get_by_instance_uuid overlap
16:29:45 mdbooth The one top left goes all the way to top right
16:30:01 mdbooth There's another invocation of get_by_instance_uuid in the middle of it
16:30:15 mdbooth IOW, they are executing 'concurrently'
16:31:42 artom Heh, maybe discussing ASCII art pseudo sequence diagrams on IRC wasn't the best idea
16:31:56 artom A debugger then...
16:32:05 artom Confessions: I have never used a Python debugger
16:32:14 mdbooth So we've got a big call to get_by_instance_uuid()
16:32:47 mdbooth We stick a mock somewhere in the middle of it which interrupts the flow to call get_by_instance_uuid() again, before continuing with the original call, which still hasn't finished.
16:34:03 artom So far so good.
16:40:19 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: objects: Add PCI NUMA policy fields https://review.openstack.org/527470
16:42:31 mriedem figleaf: i think this should do the trick https://review.openstack.org/529857
16:47:04 artom mdbooth, is that all we're testing? That if one get_by_uuid starts up, but while it's running another get_by_uuid is called, they're get the same value in the end?
16:47:19 mdbooth artom: Yep
16:47:23 artom mdbooth, christ
16:47:30 artom mdbooth, ok no, please get rid of it :)
16:47:31 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Make conductor pass and use host_lists https://review.openstack.org/511358
16:47:36 mriedem woot ^
16:48:04 mriedem #success nova merged alternate hosts support for server build
16:48:06 openstackstatus mriedem: Added success to Success page

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