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#openstack-nova - 2017-12-06
13:52:30 jaypipes bauzas: this patch is >1 year old. let's make a decision and do this.
13:52:35 bauzas exactly
13:52:38 bauzas so
13:52:42 bauzas tree, -1 for me
13:52:48 bauzas in_tree : +0
13:53:04 maciejjozefczyk Hello Guys, im trying to debug why I've faced a problem with scheduling. My instances stucks in 'scheduling' state. After enabling debug on nova-scheduler I've found that a host was selected. On nova-compute side there were 0 info about building an instance. It could be possible that the failure point is nova-conductor?
13:53:11 bauzas tree_member : +1
13:53:26 bauzas or tree_node
13:53:40 jaypipes alex_xu: around? your vote on tree, in_tree or tree_member please.
13:57:04 efried in_tree has it by a whisker.
13:57:11 efried You know, assuming it's a democracy in the first place
13:57:31 efried and the need to delta what's there isn't being factored in.
13:58:50 sean-k-mooney2 :) in_tree would be my choice out of those too
14:00:49 sean-k-mooney2 tree_member almost seams like a boolean to me. e.g. is that resouce a tree member or standalone
14:02:33 sean-k-mooney2 but as cdent said between tree and in_tree i dont have a stong enough preference to mind which was used
14:07:33 efried jaypipes How far up the stack are you rebasing currently?
14:08:20 jaypipes efried: only to the update client to set parent provider patch (third from the bottom)
14:08:41 jaypipes efried: since when I tried to rebase all the way up to your WIP patches, I failed miserably
14:09:14 efried jaypipes k. I just started looking, but in particular I think this delta is wrong, please confirm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520643/8..9/nova/scheduler/client/report.py
14:09:21 efried That reverts the exception handling bugfix.
14:09:40 efried It's like an un-rebase
14:09:41 jaypipes efried: yeah, I messed it up. totally. :(
14:10:18 jaypipes efried: I ended up having to "revert" the rebase for the three patches at the bottom using clarkb's trick of git review -d XXXXX,N-1 && git commit --amend
14:10:18 efried but I need to wait until you've published the bottom three to start rebasing on top.
14:10:23 jaypipes efried: yes
14:10:32 jaypipes efried: I'm just running tests now.
14:10:38 efried k, I shall stop distracting you :)
14:10:42 jaypipes efried: gimme another ten minutes to complete.
14:10:48 efried rgr
14:14:39 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Check if interface belongs to a Linux Bridge before removing https://review.openstack.org/526079
14:15:26 kashyap mdbooth: Have you resolved your MySQL-Python on F27 thing? I'm on F27
14:15:45 mdbooth kashyap: I think so... by not building it :)
14:16:30 kashyap Ah, then something somewhere still has stale deps file
14:18:24 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add abstract OVSDB API https://review.openstack.org/476612
14:20:01 efried cdent Would it be feasible/appropriate/relevant for jaypipes to put Depends-On to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525605/ (grenade fix) from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385693/ in his current spin?
14:21:10 cdent efried: Maybe, I’m never quite sure well depends-on _to_ a grenade change works. It might be just fine. mriedem ?
14:21:36 efried I know certain projects don't pick up Depends-Ons to certain other projects.
14:21:52 efried I'm also pretty sure some of those rules changed (for the better IIRC) when we went to zuulv3
14:22:05 efried So - no idea at this point.
14:22:53 efried Guess it couldn't hurt. If it winds up being a no-op, we haven't lost anything; but if it winds up going green, we know it works.
14:23:54 mriedem it's valid for nova to depend on a grenade fix yes
14:24:23 mriedem cdent: questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521639/
14:25:02 cdent mriedem: roger, working on the contributor doc stuff now
14:25:40 mriedem melwitt: lyarwood: i went over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400384/ - only thing of note is that power_on (start API) is now going to do this full hard reboot, and i'm not sure if that's an intended side effect or not
14:26:15 mriedem definitely feels like one of those changes that will break something else we aren't aware of, so i'll definitely want to avoid backporting that too far too fast until it has some time to sink in
14:26:23 sdague cdent: can you let me know if you feel the heat fail on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525605/ is valid or not
14:26:31 sdague if not, I'm happy to get it merged
14:27:39 cdent sdague: I was unable to trace the failure to anything related to placement, it looked like a timeout, but it’s hard to tell: the (single) test that failed doesn’t make what it’s doing all that obvious
14:27:44 cdent so I’d say go for it
14:29:20 openstackgerrit Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: allow filter providers in tree https://review.openstack.org/377215
14:29:21 openstackgerrit Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: update client to set parent provider https://review.openstack.org/385693
14:29:21 openstackgerrit Jay Pipes proposed openstack/nova master: placement: adds REST API for nested providers https://review.openstack.org/384807
14:29:25 jaypipes efried: et voila. ^
14:29:38 efried jaypipes Merci bien.
14:29:57 jaypipes efried: changed to in_tree and also added that additional func test you wanted for the in_tree=CHILD_RP_UUID and returned grandchild RP with resources query
14:30:06 efried jaypipes beaut.
14:30:21 jaypipes efried: and fixed (hopefully?) the placement-api-ref shit.
14:30:28 mriedem sdague: failopotamus might be busted on something with the zuulv3 move
14:30:33 mriedem can't get any data on the grenade-heat job
14:32:21 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: archive_deleted_instances is not atomic for insert/delete https://review.openstack.org/526065
14:35:32 mdbooth mriedem: That's not a bug, that's a feature! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400384/20
14:36:30 _ix Good morning folks. I was curious if it were possible to take an existing hypervisor from one Openstack implementation and join it to a different one.
14:36:57 mriedem define "join"
14:37:19 _ix Basically, repoint the hypervisor to start using a different controller and attendant services.
14:37:30 _ix But have that controller aware of the VMs running on it.
14:38:01 mriedem no
14:38:16 mriedem you can probably make a different controller aware of and manage the compute node,
14:38:19 mriedem but not the existing VMs
14:38:28 mriedem that would be like creating VMs in virsh directly and expecting nova to start managing them
14:38:33 mriedem which won't happen
14:38:49 _ix A man can dream, can't he?
14:39:05 mdbooth _ix: Only approved dreams.
14:39:12 efried _ix There are orchestrators (that live on top of nova) that can do "discovery" like that.
14:39:35 mdbooth efried: orly?
14:39:48 _ix Yes, do tell, efried.
14:40:27 efried mdbooth _ix I'm not necessarily talking about OpenStack projects. I just happen to know PowerVC does that.
14:40:40 mdbooth efried: How would you create db entries without creating the guest?
14:40:54 mdbooth Ah, ok
14:41:15 efried mdbooth Yeah, we don't create 'em in nova. Just let you manage 'em whether they were created in nova or not.
14:41:30 _ix Are there any other concepts of having an existing kvm vm and giving OS control over it?
14:41:41 _ix Maybe by creating an image?
14:42:10 mdbooth _ix: In the general case, Nova is very opinionated not only about having various metadata (mostly in the db) about an instance, but also exactly how that instance exists on the hypervisor.
14:42:46 efried _ix It sounds like something that's possible. I don't know of an example of any turnkey tools to do it, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
14:42:59 mdbooth Importing a guest which was created by something else is an open-ended problem with countless edge cases
14:43:16 _ix I can appreciate that, and I don't mind doing the work.
14:43:24 efried You could certainly create a disk image from a non-Nova VM and stuff it in Glance and use it to create Nova VMs. That's how you bootstrap Nova VMs in the first place, nah?
14:43:34 mdbooth The guest would have to already be something which nova can describe exactly
14:44:00 mdbooth And then you'd have to create its metadata
14:44:02 efried yeah, you'd have to specify the metadata...
14:44:25 efried jaypipes FYI, built the placement-api-ref locally for that patch and it passes.
14:44:29 mdbooth It would be a pretty hard problem, anyway.
14:44:34 jaypipes efried: cool.
14:44:38 mdbooth _ix: Incredibly useful, though.
14:45:27 efried jaypipes Oh, maybe I built it for the wrong patch. Pretend I didn't say that, but stay tuned.
14:45:47 _ix Maybe this isn't as edgey of an edge case as I had thought. The requirement was to create a new openstack deployment while leaving the previous one largely intact.
14:45:59 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add info about last-modified to contrib docs https://review.openstack.org/526084
14:46:45 _ix Now that the new deployment is starting to outpace the old deployment in maturity, I'd like to cut over to the new one. But cutting over isn't that simple with existing VMs.
14:46:46 sdague mriedem: it might be, I haven't tried to use it lately
14:47:20 mriedem _ix: does "largely intact" include keep the ports and volumes connected to the old VMs?
14:47:43 mriedem if the new thing should look like the old thing, then you have a problem with ports and volumes too

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