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#openstack-nova - 2017-10-19
08:59:15 openstackgerrit jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: remove CONF.vendordata_driver https://review.openstack.org/501510
08:59:25 openstackgerrit jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: Add description for reousrce class creation https://review.openstack.org/508083
09:17:51 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for service create and destroy notification https://review.openstack.org/444731
09:34:47 artom legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode : ERROR Project openstack/neutron does not have the default branch master
09:34:49 artom o_O
09:45:28 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
09:49:42 artom Oh god we broke archive_deleted_rows_again
10:32:37 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add 'move-nova-cmds-to-cliff' spec https://review.openstack.org/433603
10:32:49 stephenfin bauzas: Addressed comments in ^
10:33:23 stephenfin tl;dr: Migration to cliff is only part of that spec. The larger aim is "cleanup nova-* commands". The spec title is misleading but I'm stuck with it now
10:40:39 openstackgerrit Shoham Peller proposed openstack/nova master: Handle spawning error on unshelving https://review.openstack.org/378009
10:59:49 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Clean up TODOs in allocations.yaml gabbit https://review.openstack.org/513057
11:23:54 gibi bauzas: sorry, I was pulled into internal meeting for the whole morning. But I agree with your judgement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444731/8
11:30:21 sahid jaypipes: hola, i just updated the vf trusted specs, basically now it's just about to pass a tag in the binding and operator will have to isolate group of hosts
11:31:36 sahid they were a part where you asked me to use traits for the binding, can you have a look and perhaps suggest me what you want exactly?
11:32:30 sahid jaypipes: here is the link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485522/ so you don't even have to search for the pointer :)
11:41:36 dtantsur johnthetubaguy: mind checking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511844/ please?
12:09:17 bauzas who knows IRC nick of https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/33046/zhenyu-zheng ?
12:12:06 yikun_jiang @bauzas Kevin_Zheng
12:12:17 bauzas yikun_jiang: ty
12:12:23 bauzas Kevin_Zheng: around ?
12:12:36 bauzas Kevin_Zheng: just about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509326/6
12:12:42 cdent bauzas: yikun_jiang beat me to it, but my usual trick is to search launchpad: https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=zhenyu-zheng
12:13:04 bauzas Kevin_Zheng: if you could provide a follow-up change for all the nits, would be awesome :)
12:13:04 Kevin_Zheng bauzas what’s up?
12:13:26 Kevin_Zheng bauzas: sure I can do that
12:13:28 bauzas that's not urgent, but wanted to make sure you saw the points
12:13:45 bauzas Kevin_Zheng: thank you !
12:14:24 Kevin_Zheng bauzas: np
12:14:47 bauzas cdent: I usually use https://www.openstack.org/community/members/ for that :)
12:15:05 bauzas btw, Kevin_Zheng it would be nice if you could add your nick there ^
12:15:52 Kevin_Zheng I will try tomorrow:)
12:16:04 cdent bauzas: sure, but a combo of both sometimes gets us there
12:36:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Improve the performance of filtering instances by IP. https://review.openstack.org/509326
12:52:01 johnthetubaguy dtantsur|brb: will take a look at that ASAP
13:18:17 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Use neutron's new port binding API https://review.openstack.org/375580
13:19:33 bauzas mriedem: I think you made valid points on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334732/65/specs/queens/approved/abort-cold-migration.rst but maybe we shouldn't block on those
13:21:02 sean-k-mooney mriedem: i dont know if you saw http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123776.html in your inbox. does that carify the desire workflow?
13:21:14 bauzas mriedem: for the virt drivers support, maybe just making sure we update https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/support-matrix.html and https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/feature-classification.html could be a starting point, nope ?
13:23:36 gibi bauzas, mriedem: I added some comments on the cold migration patch regarding the notification impact but as a second thought we can do the notification impact in a later spec if we don't want to block on core of the feature
13:25:03 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Network bandwidth resource provider https://review.openstack.org/502306
13:48:24 cdent johnthetubaguy: yeah my allocations concern was definitely a long term thing. I don’t think it i something we need to do anything about now, but it feels like something we need in our brains. We get in the habit too often of dimissing the long term picture (because of all the usual constraints). So it was mostly just a reminder.
13:48:34 mriedem1 sean-k-mooney: i'm not sure that it does. your email is about the bw aware scheduling stuff. it also says you want nova to make allocations on the bw provider from conductor, but that's not really something we're wanting to do for anything else. we want allocations made in the scheduler if nova is going to make them. but i think neutron should manage the allocations for bw providers since the port is the consumer.
13:48:58 mriedem bauzas: i'll look again
13:49:11 johnthetubaguy cdent: yeah, +1 that. I was really just making sure its not a short term blocker.
13:49:49 cdent johnthetubaguy: *nod* we do allocate for disk that is shared, by treating it as local…
13:55:30 mriedem bauzas: i'm interested in knowing what type of storage backend NTT is using and the size of these disks that's causing the cold migration to take so long that a user has to submit a support ticket to an admin to abort the cold migration
13:55:50 bauzas that's indeed a good point
13:55:57 mriedem like, how long does it take to cold migrate a 100GB disk vm backed by ceph?
13:56:03 mriedem cburgess: ^?
13:56:26 johnthetubaguy cdent: "nova managed" is how I like to think of that, I wish we could get out of the disk and image business altogether, long term.
13:58:32 cdent johnthetubaguy: yup, that would be nice. I wonder if that means we’re going to need to break away from the idea that only one thing should be writing all the allocations associated with a build? <- probably best to just store those worms back in the can for sometime later
13:59:04 johnthetubaguy cdent: get that lid back on :p
14:00:38 mriedem meeting time
14:12:10 jaypipes sahid: k. reviewing it again.
14:12:35 jaypipes sahid: see also: https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/920739280603009024
14:19:09 jaypipes sdague: around? hoping you could help me spot what the issue is with sahid's spec not passing the sphinx-docs job here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485522/
14:19:18 jaypipes sdague: can't seem to see anything in the logs..
14:20:32 efried jaypipes http://logs.openstack.org/22/485522/3/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/3402883/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-19_08_16_47_666988
14:21:01 efried wherezat log?
14:21:17 efried cause it looks like a sphinx bug masked the real problem.
14:21:35 jaypipes efried: well, yeah, I saw THAT. :) I'm just saying that isn't useful
14:22:02 efried I'll build it locally and see if I can get at the real problem.
14:22:36 jaypipes efried: ok, cool thank you sir.
14:24:43 efried jaypipes sahid: Warning, treated as error: /home/efried/Neo/nova-specs/doc/source/specs/queens/approved/sriov-trusted-vfs.rst:166:Footnote [5] is not referenced.
14:25:03 efried Couldn't repro that other thing, though.
14:25:18 jaypipes efried: hey, thanks for doing that research. appreciated.
14:25:27 efried yahyoubetcha.
14:28:28 sdague jaypipes: did efried figure the whole thing out?
14:28:39 jaypipes sdague: seems he did indeed.
14:28:43 jaypipes sdague: sorry for the bother.
14:28:50 efried sdague No, I haven't found where sphinx is missing a param to a log message.
14:29:02 efried sdague See http://logs.openstack.org/22/485522/3/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/3402883/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-19_08_16_47_666988
14:29:09 efried That didn't hit when I built locally.
14:29:18 jaypipes efried: but you identified the thing that's causing an error in the spec itself.
14:29:39 efried Yeah. Though interestingly, when I rebuilt with tox -r, it passed.
14:29:46 efried which is... weird.
14:29:57 sdague sunspots
14:30:52 sean-k-mooney mriedem: hi well we could do the allocation in the scheduler also i just want them to happen before we call to the compute node.
14:31:46 sean-k-mooney mriedem: if you want neutorn to do it the i would make that allocations be part of the bind port.
14:31:50 efried sean-k-mooney mriedem Have we considered doing the allocation from neutron at port binding time
14:31:54 efried yeah, THAT.
14:32:08 mriedem yeah that's what i suggested in the spec
14:32:12 efried Then we close the window for races between [port binding succeeds] and [allocation fails]
14:32:26 sean-k-mooney efried:i was looking a at that code today
14:32:38 mriedem the port binding could fail as a result of the allocation failing, but then it's all managed within neutron
14:32:43 cdent i also think neutron should do the allocation
14:33:03 efried Cool. And the `consumer` of the allocation is who? The port or the instance? (My vote is the port.)
14:33:17 sean-k-mooney efried: we can do it as an else to https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/1b3f982914d82494c63ac4fee405bf4972d2db32/neutron/plugins/ml2/managers.py#L748
14:33:21 cdent that’s what is currently suggested on the spc, no?
14:33:34 cdent (that == port)
14:33:57 efried It wasn't clear to me in the spec.
14:33:58 dansmith allocation of what class?
14:33:59 sean-k-mooney cdent: proably i have been in a meeting for the last little bit and have not looked at the lates version
14:34:29 cdent sean-k-mooney: I dumped some thoughts on ps13 and then a new version happened which isn’t hugely different
14:34:52 efried dansmith Yeah. At least the "bandwidth" - but that's a future thing. The network interface resource, whatever that is. E.g. a VF or OVS port.
14:34:54 sean-k-mooney dansmith: allocation of bandwidth or vifs
14:34:58 cdent efried: are we talking about the same spec (I’m talking about the network bandwidth rp one)
14:34:59 efried ^
14:35:07 dansmith ah, bandwidth

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