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#openstack-nova - 2017-10-06
06:36:42 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Abort Cold Migration https://review.openstack.org/334732
06:50:21 takashin gmann: cdent: I have modified the spec for "Abort cold migration" function. Would you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334732/ again?
06:50:27 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
08:24:00 zioproto hello :) Working on Newton I have a region in my cloud where openstack usage list goes in stacktrace. Instance not found
08:24:23 zioproto looking at the nova bugs I did not find anything usefull
08:25:34 zioproto tracking my logs it looks like this is broken since I upgraded to Newton
08:25:57 zioproto dansmith: usually you like these database stories :)
08:26:53 bauwser zioproto: stacktrace ?
08:27:20 bauwser zioproto: by Newton, we began to use the API DB
08:27:45 zioproto https://pastebin.com/gtJbutvi
08:28:01 zioproto it is funny because this happens only in 1 production region
08:28:23 zioproto I have the same setup on dev/staging/prod and there it works
08:28:38 zioproto my feeling is that there is a broken database entry, or something specific to that region that breaks it
08:29:28 zioproto of course openstack server show 72afef44-1a4b-46e5-8cbc-7bd4f0eb31ff gives me a instance not found as well
08:29:39 zioproto what other tables should I dig to look for this uuid ?
08:32:06 gmann takashin: thanks. i will check soon.
08:33:13 takashin gmann: Thanks in advance.
08:39:47 bauwser zioproto: are you aware of those commands when you deploy a Newton cloud ? https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/cli/nova-manage.html#man-page-cells-v2
08:40:25 zioproto bauwser: I think I did this when I upgraded to Mitaka
08:40:38 zioproto to split the nova db into two DBs
08:41:35 bauwser zioproto: if I were you, I'd be looking at the nova_api DB for the instance_mappings table
08:41:51 zioproto I go have a look
08:41:51 bauwser zioproto: and check which cell is for the instance UUID
08:42:23 bauwser zioproto: then looking at host_mappings if we have a cell record for each host in it
08:52:43 zioproto bauwser: my host_mappings table is empty, is that a bad sign ?
08:53:18 bauwser zioproto: indeed, how many hosts do you have?
08:53:31 zioproto you mean compute hosts ?
08:53:44 zioproto like hundreds
08:56:15 zioproto looks like we upgraded to newton without doing this cells housekeeping
08:56:32 zioproto this was mandatory at this point ?
08:56:38 zioproto to have a cell0 database ?
09:01:57 bauwser zioproto: I don't exactly remember when we used the api DB for getting the instance list
09:02:41 bauwser zioproto: but you should definitely map the hosts
09:06:18 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
09:07:53 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
09:15:11 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
10:35:28 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.exists notification https://review.openstack.org/403660
10:35:29 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add sample test for instance audit https://review.openstack.org/480955
11:03:52 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Blacklist test_extend_attached_volume from cells v1 job https://review.openstack.org/509907
11:17:57 gibi hm https://review.openstack.org/509907 has been merged so I guess it is recheck time
11:25:22 zioproto bauwser: in nova-manage cell_v2 simple_cell_setup [--transport-url <transport_url>] how does <transport_url> look like ?
11:28:58 zioproto ok I found it here https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cells.html
11:43:33 fried_rice jaypipes yt? Wanted to brainstorm a couple of edge cases.
12:06:07 gibi could a second core look at this code removal patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505164/
12:18:33 gibi bauwser: hi! you can still support my embarrassment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509750 if you would like to :)
12:19:14 fried_rice Gluten free, if you please.
12:20:11 fried_rice cdent Perhaps you'd be willing to give some feedback on these edge cases that came to me in my sleep (or lack thereof) last night.
12:21:10 cdent I can try, but these cases keep confusing me, but since it will probably help to talk about it, shoot.
12:21:26 fried_rice If I ask for CUSTOM_FOO:4, is it *ever* legal for placement to give me 3 CUSTOM_FOOs from one RP and 1 from a different RP?
12:22:32 cdent In the fundament case of resource providers and inventory, no
12:22:40 cdent the request is a for a chunk of size 4
12:22:57 fried_rice Here's the thing: it makes total sense for the answer to be "yes" for something like VFs on separate PFs, all other traits being equal. Because e.g. what if I ask for 4 VFs and I've only got 2 on each PF?
12:23:13 cdent right, I was just going to say “vfs make that weird"
12:23:36 fried_rice But even there, if I'm asking for e.g. bandwidth inventory along with my VF count, how do I split that up?
12:23:47 cdent and also why I said “fundament[al]” because I think nested makes some of these decisions less clear
12:24:05 cdent (btw, it is great that you are exploring this stuff)
12:24:06 fried_rice And it makes *no* sense for something like DISK_GB. If I ask for 4, I don't want you giving me 1GB from each of 4 providers.
12:24:28 fried_rice So let's put that to bed and say Nay.
12:24:45 cdent this issue may be why in some conversations VFs have been proposed as resource providers
12:24:55 fried_rice eek
12:25:02 cdent ikr
12:25:23 fried_rice I mean, I guess you could do that, in the "pre-create" case like current VF passthrough does.
12:25:47 fried_rice No good in the "create VF dynamically" case of the future.
12:25:58 fried_rice cdent Okay, so next thing:
12:26:18 fried_rice Back to the VF scenario, if I ask for VF:2,BANDWIDTH:20000
12:26:33 fried_rice I'm answering my own question.
12:26:35 zioproto bauwser: still around here ?
12:26:42 fried_rice Those are total chunks on the RP.
12:26:48 zioproto it comes out that the uuid from the stacktrace is pretty unique
12:26:53 fried_rice Placement doesn't care how they're going to be split up
12:27:02 zioproto it is the only instance in the cloud that matches this query
12:27:06 zioproto select * from instances where vm_state="shelved_offloaded"
12:27:13 fried_rice That's up to the virt driver once it gets that information (which we still don't have a way of doing yet - discussion Monday)
12:27:45 cdent yup
12:27:56 fried_rice So I guess the op would have to assume each VF will get 10000. And if they want a different split, they can specify them as separate request numbers (per the spec I'm composing).
12:28:02 fried_rice Cool cool.
12:28:10 fried_rice cdent Thanks for sounding-boarding.
12:28:22 cdent you’re welcome
12:28:23 fried_rice (Hopefully it wasn't too much like water-boarding)
12:28:34 cdent not today
12:29:48 fried_rice jaypipes I don't need you anymore.
12:30:36 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077
12:31:34 fried_rice cdent Oh, BUT if I ask for CUSTOM_FOO:3 and CUSTOM_BAR:2, placement *could* give me those guys from different RPs
12:31:52 fried_rice That is, 3 CUSTOM_FOOs from RP1 and 2 CUSTOM_BARs from RP2
12:32:32 cdent fried_rice: it depends on how you are forming your request and what sort of sharing or nested relationship there is between rp1 and rp2
12:32:57 jaypipes fried_rice: heh
12:33:12 cdent in a pre-nested universe rp1 and rp2 would need to associated in the same aggregate
12:33:22 fried_rice leakypipes I take it back; feel free to weigh in on the latest craziness
12:33:47 fried_rice cdent Same aggregate, interesting.
12:33:55 fried_rice What if there are no aggregate associations?
12:34:10 cdent fried_rice: same _placement_ aggregate (which is not the same as a nova aggregate)
12:34:19 fried_rice Oh, I get it, because that's the only way you don't get VCPU from one host and MEM_MB from another.
12:34:31 fried_rice Does RT implicitly create aggregates today?
12:35:02 cdent not yet, shared is only implemented on the placement side so far, not the nova side
12:35:10 cdent and it got punted down the priority stack
12:36:23 fried_rice Well.
12:36:28 fried_rice That's going to get interesting.
12:37:12 fried_rice So *with* nested but *without* shared, we would have to enforce that semantic as "same root provider".
12:38:27 fried_rice FYI, the semantic I'm wrestling with is how resources are bound together (or not) with this numbered syntax thingy.
12:39:26 fried_rice And what I've been leaning towards is: When you use the (existing) "un-numbered" deal, the rule is "same root provider". But when you use a "numbered" deal, the rule is "same *provider*".

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