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#openstack-nova - 2017-09-29
16:18:39 melwitt we responded to the issues and improved our docs and nova-manage commands. and now it's our best assumption that everything is okay but I wasn't sure if it is since we haven't had anyone tell us. it's more like lack of complaint
16:19:14 melwitt just thinking aloud mostly
16:20:18 melwitt how can we tell if we have space for more proposals? we can't right?
16:20:33 mriedem melwitt: we can't
16:21:04 mriedem there is a fast forward upgrades session
16:21:14 mriedem so my guess would be a nova-specific upgrade session would be asking for FF upgrades
16:21:36 mriedem ttx: how many slots are there for forum topics?
16:21:51 mriedem s/topics/sessions/
16:22:54 mriedem i would also love feedback on where we've sucked it up perf-wise,
16:22:58 mriedem but,
16:23:00 mriedem ...
16:23:48 melwitt yeah. this is weird that we can't control what we have sessions about and have to worry that some sessions would bump others out
16:24:27 mriedem and as a result we don't propose as many
16:24:37 mriedem meanwhile there are like 4+ overlapping sessions about HPC and NFV
16:25:37 itlinux hello all.. I have a docker image that I installed the clients on and I have the endpoints running on HTTPS.. when I do nova list on that box I get an error.. if I use my virtualbox with openstack installed I can query my remote openstack with the nova list just fine.. any tips?
16:25:42 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Fix minor input items from previous patches https://review.openstack.org/506416
16:25:49 superdan mriedem: so, in my fixing of your fields thing in ^
16:26:06 superdan I found another place we were implicitly querying for a ton of extra stuff when all we want was metadata
16:26:32 johnthetubaguy fried_rice: leakypipes: superdan: thanks for your help with the ironic placement bug, fix up for review, not had chance to test it yet, something for next week: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508555
16:26:35 superdan "ton" being "four" instead of "one"
16:26:36 superdan you know, apply my normal exaggeration descaling filter
16:28:12 superdan johnthetubaguy: cool
16:29:33 ttx mriedem: not sure, maybe thingee or flaper87 know
16:30:50 mriedem johnthetubaguy: superdan: leakypipes: cdent: figleaf: fyi http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/60
16:31:33 superdan mriedem: you posted that on the cells one, did you mean to do it on a placement one?
16:31:53 leakypipes ack, will do johnthetubaguy
16:32:06 mriedem superdan: you mean this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506416/13/nova/compute/api.py@3755
16:32:16 mriedem crap yes
16:32:20 superdan mriedem: yes that
16:33:03 mriedem superdan: have you seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508299/
16:33:10 superdan mriedem: there's a test that failed if we don't pass something to that now that we're doing the fields calculation early, but it means we stop taking the obvious default
16:33:33 superdan mriedem: heh, okay, well, I need it for the change in that patch
16:33:39 superdan mriedem: so whichever one wins the race I guess
16:34:39 mriedem there is an issue with yours
16:34:56 mriedem maybe we should slide https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508299/ in underneath?
16:36:01 superdan ah, I didn't see that it called that
16:36:25 superdan let's just try to get yours in so I don't have to intertwine those two series
16:36:44 superdan still no jenkins run on that one.. is it worth rechecking now or no?
16:37:10 mriedem no idea
16:37:14 mriedem i don't see it queued up
16:37:20 mriedem i'm going to lunch
16:43:30 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use ksa adapter for cinder client https://review.openstack.org/508345
16:50:51 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use ksa adapter for cinder client https://review.openstack.org/508345
16:54:04 cdent mriedem: you aware of this interoperability tag thingie for nova? it wants your +1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506255/
17:15:41 cdent leakypipes: if you’ve got a chance this (shared rp fix from alex) probably wants your eyes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480379/
17:23:14 leakypipes cdent: ah, yes, thanks for the reminder
17:23:23 cdent ✔
17:46:51 pino penick: mriedem: (and Jay Pipes, can't find his handle) a few days ago I asked about injecting dynamically generated SSH certificates into the host. You pointed me to vendordata, cloud-init (and the novajoin example). I've played with it and have some more questions/issues. Do you have a few minutes?
17:47:14 leakypipes pino: I'm leakypipes on Fridays :)
17:47:19 pino Specifically, I'm worried about the SSH host certificate.
17:47:36 pino leakypipes: :-)
17:48:18 pino So, the problem with the host certificate is that you need to pass the host public key to the Host CA signing service to generate the certificate, then inject it back.
17:49:02 pino But vendor data doesn't take any arguments, so you're forced to either generate the host keys off the instance, or you need to expose a service directly to the instance.
17:50:31 pino Both are problematic: exposing the signing service to the instance means the instance has to be able to authenticate itself to the service (chicken-and-egg problem).
17:50:34 mriedem interop tag?!
17:50:55 pino Is that comment for me?
17:51:00 mriedem no
17:51:02 mriedem sorry
17:53:33 pino Maybe an e-mail would be more effective...
17:53:50 pino I'll write it all up and send to the mailing list instead.
17:53:58 mriedem pino: to the openstack-dev mailing yeah, probably
18:02:05 mriedem leakypipes: the explanations for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506093/ are in the commit message
18:02:13 mriedem the functional test fails without those changes to the fake virt driver
18:02:22 leakypipes mriedem: I still couldn't understand the explanation.
18:02:30 leakypipes mriedem: which is what I said in the comment../.
18:02:39 mriedem if you do live migration with block_migration=auto,
18:02:45 mriedem that passes block_migration=None,
18:02:55 mriedem which you can't set on MigrateData b/c it's not a nullable=True field
18:03:25 cburgess Do we have a supported/approved method for purge deleted instances from the DB?
18:03:27 mriedem and we have to return migrate_data from the other method otherwise it doesn't come out during post_live_migration, and we can't set the status on the migration object to 'completed', which is what the functional test is waiting for
18:03:33 mriedem cburgess: we don't
18:03:39 cburgess mriedem Wow still really?
18:03:40 mriedem we had a spec a few releases ago
18:03:49 mriedem and a patch at one point
18:04:00 cburgess *sad panda*
18:05:17 cburgess My life just got a lot more complicated.
18:05:32 mriedem did you find out you're pregnant?
18:05:41 cburgess No the lack of purge support...
18:05:46 mriedem oh, that
18:05:57 melwitt I thought archived_deleted_rows mostly worked now
18:05:59 mriedem https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/purge-deleted-instances-cmd.html
18:06:03 mriedem archive != purge
18:06:08 cburgess OK..
18:06:08 cburgess Wait..
18:06:16 superdan archive should be a lot better now yeah
18:06:17 cburgess So whats archived_deleted_rows
18:06:19 mriedem archive means, put some shit in the storage room but don't delete it
18:06:20 cburgess ?
18:06:26 mriedem moves things to shadow tables
18:06:29 superdan and then you can dump the storage room after each thing
18:06:31 superdan easily
18:06:31 mriedem deleted things
18:06:32 melwitt it deletes it from the main tables
18:06:33 superdan without constraints
18:06:35 cburgess Oh..
18:06:45 cburgess That would do what I needed.
18:06:52 mriedem cburgess: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows --verbose --until-complete
18:07:03 cburgess Cool. I'll look into it. Thanks.
18:07:18 cburgess Oh this.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/archive-deleted-rows-all
18:07:22 superdan mriedem: wanna peek behind my curtain?

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