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#openstack-nova - 2017-09-27
03:33:53 openstackgerrit Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move xend existence probes to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495538
03:33:54 openstackgerrit Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500351
03:33:54 openstackgerrit Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664
03:33:55 openstackgerrit Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500398
03:33:55 openstackgerrit Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500354
03:54:40 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add slowest command to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/507657
06:07:24 openstackgerrit jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: check query param for used_limits function https://review.openstack.org/499091
06:21:07 lennyb Hi, I am working on devstack master, and my n-cond-cell1.service got stucked during stop #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/622005/. it's log is empty, no exceptions in other logs. Any tips/ideas will be appreciated.
06:37:49 openstackgerrit jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: check query param for server groups function https://review.openstack.org/500347
06:39:06 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Update Instance action's updated_at when action event updated. https://review.openstack.org/507473
06:57:04 openstackgerrit Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: factor out compute service start in ServerMovingTest https://review.openstack.org/503037
06:57:04 openstackgerrit Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Moving more utils to ServerResourceAllocationTestBase https://review.openstack.org/499539
06:57:05 openstackgerrit Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Test resource allocation during soft delete https://review.openstack.org/495159
06:59:09 openstackgerrit Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add trait support in the allocation candidates API https://review.openstack.org/497713
07:10:27 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add pagination and changes since filter support for os-instance-action API https://review.openstack.org/507762
07:20:22 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add pagination and changes since filter support for os-instance-action API https://review.openstack.org/507762
07:25:09 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Mention API behavior change when over quota limit https://review.openstack.org/507769
07:58:42 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
08:30:57 gibi johnthetubaguy: hi! do you have any comments on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122658.html ? mikal has already stated that rackspace private cloud is not using it http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2017-09-26.log.html#t2017-09-26T19:57:03
08:49:54 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove dead code of api.fault notification sending https://review.openstack.org/505164
08:56:37 ralonsoh dansmith: hi, can I talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449257/42/nova/objects/instance_pci_requests.py?
08:58:32 johnthetubaguy gibi: I am very far removed from if that would be used now
08:59:05 johnthetubaguy gibi: I believe the context around that was providing an SLA that involved knowing about the 500 errors in the API, and doing bug fixes to reduce them
08:59:42 johnthetubaguy gibi: i.e. the SLA is related to the % of 5xx errors from the API, so errors in the API are really important to those folks
09:00:48 johnthetubaguy gibi: I don't remember using those notifications myself, mostly got that data from ELK when I was last looking at that stuff
09:01:26 johnthetubaguy gibi: tl;dr +1 on killing it
09:02:46 gibi johnthetubaguy: thanks for the info
09:02:54 johnthetubaguy gibi: np
09:04:07 stephenfin gibi: Super easy docs patch needing another +2 here, if you're twiddling your thumbs at any point today :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/
09:04:20 stephenfin Well, kinda easy
09:04:39 gibi stephenfin: I will look shortly
09:04:46 stephenfin no rush
09:29:57 openstackgerrit Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova master: Don't overwrite binding-profile https://review.openstack.org/505613
09:42:05 gibi stephenfin: left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/
09:42:24 stephenfin gibi: On it. Thanks :)
09:42:57 gibi stephenfin: sorry for being picky. I can accept if most of my comments are fixed in a followup
09:43:51 gibi stephenfin: the only thing that I think is a must https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/1/doc/source/cli/nova-compute.rst@25
09:47:48 gibi stephenfin: if you need something to review then I can suggest this test improvement series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499539/ :)
09:50:02 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
10:12:26 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework man pages https://review.openstack.org/502105
10:52:06 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/python-novaclient stable/newton: Fix aggregate_update name and availability_zone clash https://review.openstack.org/507816
11:06:46 alex_xu gmann: sorry, I can't make the api meeting today, have cold today, headache
11:27:33 cdent efried: you on the scene yet?
11:28:20 cdent efried: when you are, I’ve got a few questions about non-openstack managed workloads
11:46:27 openstackgerrit Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Change live_migrate tests to use fakedriver https://review.openstack.org/505202
11:57:18 manasm bauzas: you may want to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1719859 .
11:57:19 openstack Launchpad bug 1719859 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Resize failure due to instance group being None in request spec" [Undecided,New]
12:35:41 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Update Instance action's updated_at when action event updated. https://review.openstack.org/507473
12:42:25 gmann alex_xu: oh, i also do not have much for this week. we can cancel the meeting
12:42:36 gmann alex_xu: take rest and get well soon
12:53:16 tssurya Hi, I was just playing around with cell_v2 and came across the nova-manage cell_v2 map_instances command; so I went through the source code (manage.py) but was not able to find a connection as to which sql_connection string is used to query the 'instances' table in the nova DB. It should be taking this from the conf file ? But could someone point me to the section of code that does this ?
13:00:36 sdague tssurya: it's coming from the same nova.conf that your API server is expected to be using
13:01:10 sdague tssurya: all nova-manage commands are assumed to be run from the shell on the API server (and have the same db access)
13:03:36 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/507848
13:05:12 tssurya sdague : thanks for the reply, so here is my situation : I have some instances lying in my nova_cell1 DB which need to be mapped to my new cell (cell1). however the db access URL for this is inside nova_cell1.conf ? so when I run the map instances command, they do not get mapped.
13:06:42 tssurya sdague: I think its because the queries are sent to the nova_cell0 DB since nova.conf has that access url.
13:07:29 efried cdent Yo
13:07:52 openstackgerrit zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
13:08:13 cdent efried: yo
13:09:27 cdent efried: my question is basically: in powervm does the thing which is the actual hypervisor ever host workloads that are not managed by nova. The comments on this bug for context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1718212
13:09:28 openstack Launchpad bug 1718212 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Compute resource tracker does not report correct information for drivers such as vSphere" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov)
13:10:27 cdent since placement is authoritative for dynamic workloads if nova is not doing all the managing, there may be need for additional things talking to placement
13:10:46 efried cdent That's a multi-pronged question.
13:10:56 cdent It’s a full on dinner fork
13:11:03 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Support qemu >= 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/505673
13:11:14 efried First, nothing is stopping the user from creating VMs outside the auspices of OpenStack.
13:12:43 efried Second, there's a mode (the most common one, historically) where the I/O virtualization is done by one (or two, cause redundancy/HA) separate partitions, in which case those guys are consuming resources outside of Nova's purview.
13:13:02 efried cdent Now I'll look at the bug...
13:13:32 bauzas efried: creating VMs by the hypervisor directly is not supported by Nova
13:14:02 efried bauzas Oh, Nova won't pick them up, for sure. But there's nothing stopping the user from doing it.
13:14:05 cdent efried: So, short answer is “yes” so second question is “Do you yet have a plan on how to manage it”
13:14:26 bauzas efried: if the operator does that, then any bug related to that should be Wontfix
13:14:47 efried bauzas Well...
13:14:53 efried I agree in principle.
13:14:56 bauzas efried: lemme find where we say that we don't support direct hypervisor calls
13:15:11 efried But that doesn't mean we won't try to accomodate out-of-band partitions when reporting inventory/usage.
13:15:20 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Log consumer uuid when retrying claims in the scheduler https://review.openstack.org/507705
13:15:33 efried bauzas Sure, but I totally believe you.
13:16:18 openstackgerrit Andrey Volkov proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] List instances performace optimization https://review.openstack.org/507854
13:17:28 bauzas efried: I didn't found any explanations either in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/policies.html or https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/project-scope.html
13:17:41 bauzas maybe we should say that
13:17:46 efried cdent Okay, in general, we have very similar issues as described in comment #6 in that bug.
13:18:18 efried When I started looking into converting over to get_inventory, it was going to be a matter of reporting "reserved" amounts based on whatever's going on OOB.
13:18:56 cdent efried: do you have a convenient way of distinguishing between nova managed and not-nova managed stuff?
13:18:56 johnthetubaguy I thought we were heading down the not doing live updates of resource usage?
13:19:04 efried ...and it's not trivial to figure out what's OOB.
13:19:09 efried (I was just about to say :)
13:19:10 cdent jinx!
13:19:35 cdent johnthetubaguy: that seems to work okay for libvirt, but not so great otherwise
13:19:35 efried I can know off the bat to account for my Novalink partition (the node on which the compute service runs) and my Virtual I/O Servers.
13:20:03 efried But any plain ol' worker bees I have to figure out whether they came from Nova.
13:20:17 johnthetubaguy cdent: I guess I am not seeing why, is that vmware bug the example?
13:20:19 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Migrate from 'ip' commands to 'pyroute2' https://review.openstack.org/484386
13:20:26 cdent johnthetubaguy: at this stage efried, rgerganov and I are just sort of having a chat, not making any decisions
13:20:58 bhagyashris johnthetubaguy, mriedem: Hi,
13:21:01 johnthetubaguy I am just curious where the problem isn't nova driver expected resource usage
13:21:01 efried Simplest would be, every time get_inventory/get_available_resource is called, I ask Nova for the full list of instances it knows about, ask my hypervisor for the instances IT knows about, and do a set-diff.
13:21:20 cdent johnthetubaguy: that’s a specific case of a general issue of “things other than the nova-compute node using the stuff that nova-compute is also using”
13:21:34 efried just so.
13:21:55 johnthetubaguy I think I need a more concrete example

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