Posted	Nick	Remark
#openstack-nova - 2017-09-27
01:53:59	mriedem	like, revert that on top of the change that uses the new code in the API
01:54:00	mriedem	?
01:54:14	mriedem	oh, nvm,
01:54:15	dansmith	oh, I guess you were running on master already?
01:54:23	mriedem	yes, new devstack as of today
01:54:38	dansmith	yeah, okay
01:55:19	mriedem	so 2.16 makes us join on services, 2.26 makes us join on tags, 2.47 returns instance.flavor, and your change always joins on faults
01:55:25	mriedem	2.47 is suspicious
01:55:31	mriedem	since that's from instance_extra
01:55:41	dansmith	but again, it shouldn't be any different
01:57:41	mriedem	yeah, nvm, we also didn't start loading that in the api as of 2.47, we already pulled out instance.flavor to get the link stuff
01:59:17	mriedem	totally unrelated, but when we lazy-load instance.flavor, we're still joining on system_metadata now, we should be able to stop doing that
02:00:02	dansmith	yeah
02:04:40	mriedem	ok, i'll run through with 1000 active instances tomorrow with your change and see if that makes a big difference, and if so, it could be the fault thing
02:05:13	dansmith	alright
02:29:52	yushb	JOIN #openstack-karbor
03:01:31	dansmith	mriedem: I don't auto-join fault until: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505456/10/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py
03:01:36	dansmith	so I don't think it's the fault
03:33:50	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Read from console ptys using privsep. https://review.openstack.org/489486
03:33:50	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move ploop commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/492325
03:33:51	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Cleanup mount / umount and associated rmdir calls https://review.openstack.org/494423
03:33:51	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Don't shell out to mkdir, use ensure_tree() https://review.openstack.org/492326
03:33:52	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move shred to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495537
03:33:52	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move lvm handling to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495516
03:33:53	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move the idmapshift binary into privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495541
03:33:53	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move xend existence probes to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495538
03:33:54	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move nbd commands to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500351
03:33:54	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move loopback setup and removal to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/495664
03:33:55	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move blkid calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500398
03:33:55	openstackgerrit	Michael Still proposed openstack/nova master: Move kpartx calls to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/500354
03:54:40	openstackgerrit	Merged openstack/nova master: Add slowest command to tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/507657
06:07:24	openstackgerrit	jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: check query param for used_limits function https://review.openstack.org/499091
06:21:07	lennyb	Hi, I am working on devstack master, and my n-cond-cell1.service got stucked during stop #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/622005/. it's log is empty, no exceptions in other logs. Any tips/ideas will be appreciated.
06:37:49	openstackgerrit	jichenjc proposed openstack/nova master: check query param for server groups function https://review.openstack.org/500347
06:39:06	openstackgerrit	Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Update Instance action's updated_at when action event updated. https://review.openstack.org/507473
06:57:04	openstackgerrit	Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: factor out compute service start in ServerMovingTest https://review.openstack.org/503037
06:57:04	openstackgerrit	Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Moving more utils to ServerResourceAllocationTestBase https://review.openstack.org/499539
06:57:05	openstackgerrit	Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Test resource allocation during soft delete https://review.openstack.org/495159
06:59:09	openstackgerrit	Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add trait support in the allocation candidates API https://review.openstack.org/497713
07:10:27	openstackgerrit	Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add pagination and changes since filter support for os-instance-action API https://review.openstack.org/507762
07:20:22	openstackgerrit	Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add pagination and changes since filter support for os-instance-action API https://review.openstack.org/507762
07:25:09	openstackgerrit	Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Mention API behavior change when over quota limit https://review.openstack.org/507769
07:58:42	openstackgerrit	Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
08:30:57	gibi	johnthetubaguy: hi! do you have any comments on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122658.html ? mikal has already stated that rackspace private cloud is not using it http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2017-09-26.log.html#t2017-09-26T19:57:03
08:49:54	openstackgerrit	Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove dead code of api.fault notification sending https://review.openstack.org/505164
08:56:37	ralonsoh	dansmith: hi, can I talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449257/42/nova/objects/instance_pci_requests.py?
08:58:32	johnthetubaguy	gibi: I am very far removed from if that would be used now
08:59:05	johnthetubaguy	gibi: I believe the context around that was providing an SLA that involved knowing about the 500 errors in the API, and doing bug fixes to reduce them
08:59:42	johnthetubaguy	gibi: i.e. the SLA is related to the % of 5xx errors from the API, so errors in the API are really important to those folks
09:00:48	johnthetubaguy	gibi: I don't remember using those notifications myself, mostly got that data from ELK when I was last looking at that stuff
09:01:26	johnthetubaguy	gibi: tl;dr +1 on killing it
09:02:46	gibi	johnthetubaguy: thanks for the info
09:02:54	johnthetubaguy	gibi: np
09:04:07	stephenfin	gibi: Super easy docs patch needing another +2 here, if you're twiddling your thumbs at any point today :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/
09:04:20	stephenfin	Well, kinda easy
09:04:39	gibi	stephenfin: I will look shortly
09:04:46	stephenfin	no rush
09:29:57	openstackgerrit	Moshe Levi proposed openstack/nova master: Don't overwrite binding-profile https://review.openstack.org/505613
09:42:05	gibi	stephenfin: left some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/
09:42:24	stephenfin	gibi: On it. Thanks :)
09:42:57	gibi	stephenfin: sorry for being picky. I can accept if most of my comments are fixed in a followup
09:43:51	gibi	stephenfin: the only thing that I think is a must https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502105/1/doc/source/cli/nova-compute.rst@25
09:47:48	gibi	stephenfin: if you need something to review then I can suggest this test improvement series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499539/ :)
09:50:02	openstackgerrit	Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
10:12:26	openstackgerrit	Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework man pages https://review.openstack.org/502105
10:52:06	openstackgerrit	Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/python-novaclient stable/newton: Fix aggregate_update name and availability_zone clash https://review.openstack.org/507816
11:06:46	alex_xu	gmann: sorry, I can't make the api meeting today, have cold today, headache
11:27:33	cdent	efried: you on the scene yet?
11:28:20	cdent	efried: when you are, I’ve got a few questions about non-openstack managed workloads
11:46:27	openstackgerrit	Lajos Katona proposed openstack/nova master: Change live_migrate tests to use fakedriver https://review.openstack.org/505202
11:57:18	manasm	bauzas: you may want to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1719859 .
11:57:19	openstack	Launchpad bug 1719859 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Resize failure due to instance group being None in request spec" [Undecided,New]
12:35:41	openstackgerrit	Yikun Jiang proposed openstack/nova master: Update Instance action's updated_at when action event updated. https://review.openstack.org/507473
12:42:25	gmann	alex_xu: oh, i also do not have much for this week. we can cancel the meeting
12:42:36	gmann	alex_xu: take rest and get well soon
12:53:16	tssurya	Hi, I was just playing around with cell_v2 and came across the nova-manage cell_v2 map_instances command; so I went through the source code (manage.py) but was not able to find a connection as to which sql_connection string is used to query the 'instances' table in the nova DB. It should be taking this from the conf file ? But could someone point me to the section of code that does this ?
13:00:36	sdague	tssurya: it's coming from the same nova.conf that your API server is expected to be using
13:01:10	sdague	tssurya: all nova-manage commands are assumed to be run from the shell on the API server (and have the same db access)
13:03:36	openstackgerrit	zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep. https://review.openstack.org/507848
13:05:12	tssurya	sdague : thanks for the reply, so here is my situation : I have some instances lying in my nova_cell1 DB which need to be mapped to my new cell (cell1). however the db access URL for this is inside nova_cell1.conf ? so when I run the map instances command, they do not get mapped.
13:06:42	tssurya	sdague: I think its because the queries are sent to the nova_cell0 DB since nova.conf has that access url.
13:07:29	efried	cdent Yo
13:07:52	openstackgerrit	zhangyangyang proposed openstack/nova master: Move libvirts qemu-img support to privsep https://review.openstack.org/507848
13:08:13	cdent	efried: yo
13:09:27	cdent	efried: my question is basically: in powervm does the thing which is the actual hypervisor ever host workloads that are not managed by nova. The comments on this bug for context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1718212
13:09:28	openstack	Launchpad bug 1718212 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Compute resource tracker does not report correct information for drivers such as vSphere" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov)
13:10:27	cdent	since placement is authoritative for dynamic workloads if nova is not doing all the managing, there may be need for additional things talking to placement
13:10:46	efried	cdent That's a multi-pronged question.
13:10:56	cdent	It’s a full on dinner fork
13:11:03	openstackgerrit	Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Support qemu >= 2.10 https://review.openstack.org/505673
13:11:14	efried	First, nothing is stopping the user from creating VMs outside the auspices of OpenStack.
13:12:43	efried	Second, there's a mode (the most common one, historically) where the I/O virtualization is done by one (or two, cause redundancy/HA) separate partitions, in which case those guys are consuming resources outside of Nova's purview.
13:13:02	efried	cdent Now I'll look at the bug...
13:13:32	bauzas	efried: creating VMs by the hypervisor directly is not supported by Nova
13:14:02	efried	bauzas Oh, Nova won't pick them up, for sure. But there's nothing stopping the user from doing it.
13:14:05	cdent	efried: So, short answer is “yes” so second question is “Do you yet have a plan on how to manage it”
13:14:26	bauzas	efried: if the operator does that, then any bug related to that should be Wontfix
13:14:47	efried	bauzas Well...
13:14:53	efried	I agree in principle.
13:14:56	bauzas	efried: lemme find where we say that we don't support direct hypervisor calls

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