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#openstack-nova - 2017-09-20
14:14:26 sdague mdbooth: yes, the workers are processes
14:14:28 jamespage sdague: I have a simple patch to fix the nova package for Pike in Ubuntu and the UCA; that's not good for direct submission to nova as its not conditional i.e. its a blind add the flag (cause we know which qemu version will be in use for artful and xenial+ Pike UCA)
14:14:37 mdbooth sdague: I'll bet that's it...
14:14:41 sdague jamespage: gotcha
14:14:48 mriedem toabctl: done
14:15:02 toabctl mriedem, thx
14:15:06 sdague jamespage: link for where you injected it might be good regardless
14:15:17 sdague jamespage: then we can figure out the right conditional
14:15:30 jamespage sdague: looking the libvirt driver + images module to figure out the best way to pass that in conditionally - most version checking is done in driver, not in images...
14:15:34 jamespage sdague:
14:15:35 jamespage sure
14:15:56 mriedem jamespage: i was having the same problem when thinking about how to make that conditional
14:16:04 mriedem the driver knows the version, but way down in the bowels of the image code it doesn't
14:16:20 jamespage mriedem: yeah its awkward from that perspective
14:16:32 jamespage lemme attach my patch to the bug report
14:18:57 mriedem tasker: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504260/
14:20:09 jamespage mriedem: my thinking was to pass that down from driver to the image code as an optional param
14:20:46 jamespage testing that patch shortly
14:22:32 mriedem jamespage: yeah that is probably what i'd do
14:23:15 mriedem exit code is 1 when it fails, so that's not unique enough,
14:23:29 mriedem we could scrape the stderr for the message, and retry with the flag, but that's not fun either
14:23:49 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Use improved instance_list module in compute API https://review.openstack.org/505418
14:23:50 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove legacy fault-loading routines https://review.openstack.org/505456
14:23:52 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Fix a pagination logic bug in test_bug_1689692 https://review.openstack.org/505661
14:24:09 sahid stephenfin: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501132/, it seems to me the commit message well reflects what is done on the patch
14:24:17 sdague mriedem: is there a reason to not set a CONST with the version on __init__ of the driver?
14:25:06 stephenfin sahid: It reflects what but not _why_. The why is what I care about (I can parse the what from reading the code)
14:25:38 mriedem sdague: and have the image code check the driver?
14:25:54 stephenfin If sean-k-mooney had questions that you took the time to address, the chances are that others will have the same question if they look at that patch in however many months/years time
14:26:00 dansmith mriedem: I think he means a global, which seems less good to me
14:26:09 sdague mriedem: well, I was thinking have the driver set a CONST in the image namespace
14:26:17 mdbooth sdague: Thanks. I've filed a bug against Nova, but suspect it's only actually fixable by using an external logging service.
14:26:43 mdbooth Or perhaps by having separate conductors writing to separate log files?
14:26:44 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Skip more racy rebuild failing tests with cells v1 https://review.openstack.org/499001
14:26:52 stephenfin sahid: See here for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479802/
14:26:53 mdbooth We'd have to name them.
14:26:53 sdague because I thought we wanted image to be distinct
14:27:10 sdague mdbooth: I'm not sure what help a nova bug does here, it's really not fixable in nova
14:27:11 cfriesen is anyone aware of a scheduling issue in Pike when rescheduling instances that were originally booted as part of a multi-instance boot? There's a thread "Pike NOVA Disable and Live Migrate all instances" on the openstack list that seems to indicate a bug.
14:27:22 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: conf: Rename two VNC options https://review.openstack.org/498387
14:27:36 dansmith mdbooth: python logging should be locking the fd, which is opened before the fork
14:27:49 mdbooth sdague: Well I found it in Nova, and it's definitely a thing. There's likely to be a better place to move it.
14:28:12 mriedem mdbooth: if you found it in nova, it's also then probably an issue in all other services
14:28:20 mriedem if it's logging related
14:28:42 mdbooth dansmith: That kind of locking could only work by preventing other conductors from opening the log file at all.
14:28:48 openstackgerrit Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: Add PowerVM hypervisor configuration doc https://review.openstack.org/505665
14:28:59 mdbooth Which would mean that it would block all conductors beyond the first.
14:29:17 dansmith mdbooth: the other processes don't open the log, they inherit it across the fork
14:30:00 mdbooth dansmith: Oh, interesting. However, the locking would still be python thread locking.
14:30:25 dansmith not if logging is locking the file
14:30:26 cdent cfriesen: I’ve been wondering if part of that was due somehow to the doubling stuff
14:30:53 mdbooth Unless the logger is taking and releasing an os lock for every write?
14:32:17 sdague mdbooth: I really think that once you push sufficiently large writes through the python logging buffer, this is just the python behavior
14:32:25 sdague and the only fix is don't do that
14:33:56 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/os-vif master: ovs-hybrid: should permanently keep MAC entries https://review.openstack.org/501132
14:35:03 mdbooth https://docs.python.org/3/library/multiprocessing.html#module-multiprocessing
14:35:34 mdbooth According to ^^^ in python 3 at least logging doesn't use external locks
14:36:11 mdbooth I guess that would make it a bug in oslo.log
14:36:40 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Unregister the ResourceClass object https://review.openstack.org/502155
14:36:50 stephenfin sahid: Lovely. +Wd
14:36:51 mdbooth Same for python 2
14:37:01 mdbooth And I don't see oslo.log importing multiprocessing
14:37:11 mdbooth Well, it does, but it doesn't seem to use it
14:37:15 mdbooth That's pretty weird
14:38:10 sdague mdbooth: I expect that when you don't overrun the python logging natural buffer it just works
14:38:18 sdague and when you do, you get funkiness
14:38:28 sdague and I agree, if you want to fix it, you have to do it down in oslo.log
14:38:34 mdbooth sdague: We log exceptions, though, which are kinda arbitrarily large
14:38:42 mdbooth I don't think we want to stop doing that
14:39:02 sdague mdbooth: we do, but we've apparently been lucky thus far
14:39:03 mdbooth I'll move the bug to oslo.log and mention the multiprocess thing
14:39:50 mdbooth Assuming, that is, we don't want to open separate log files for conductor workers?
14:40:05 mdbooth Because that would be a nova fix, and possibly useful in its own right
14:40:42 sdague mdbooth: no, because that problem is equally theoretically a problem for all the other services as well
14:40:47 sdague except nova-compute
14:40:47 dansmith I definitely don't want separate logs for conductor workers
14:40:51 dansmith because..holy crap
14:40:54 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-traits master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/503646
14:40:57 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502708
14:41:08 mdbooth dansmith: Merged logs, ftw! ;)
14:41:09 sdague and it totally would wreck all the log injest systems people have
14:41:29 mdbooth True.
14:41:34 mdbooth oslo.log it is
14:43:30 jamespage mriedem: working a fix now
14:43:38 cfriesen cdent: that does seem to be the most likely suspect. points to a gap in our testing.
14:45:25 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Update docs for _destroy_evacuated_instances https://review.openstack.org/500144
14:46:00 mriedem jamespage: i'm testing sdague's idea too
14:46:04 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: check qemu version when calling qemu-img info https://review.openstack.org/505673
14:46:34 openstackgerrit Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Add instance.interface_attach notification https://review.openstack.org/503089
14:46:58 cdent cfriesen: gaps in testing is a bit of a trend, but gibi is fixing it ;)
14:47:51 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional test for two-cell scheduler behaviors https://review.openstack.org/452006
14:47:58 mriedem jamespage: testing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505674/
14:48:01 sdague mriedem: you got a devstack patch depends on that?
14:48:16 mriedem yes ^
14:48:47 sdague ah cool
14:49:27 gibi cdent: do you mean I should add a test case which boots multiple instances with a single boot command then try to migrate them? ;)
14:49:56 cdent I meant you were fixing the trend more generally but if you’re feeling motivated :)
14:50:24 dansmith mriedem: if you're okay with it I'm just going to fast approve all these unregister patches as they're just mechanical search/replace: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502157/5
14:51:24 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add @targets_cell for live_migrate_instance method in conductor https://review.openstack.org/503601
14:51:56 mriedem dansmith: i can go through them quick

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